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Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 11:33 am

There was none...
No missile was shot into the Pentagon...

Anyone making such a claim really needs to back it up with facts rather than just theories....

That day...
Numerous planes were hijacked...
We have video of terrorists getting on the planes...
"Something" flew into the Pentagon and pieces of an airplane were found...
Dead bodies were recovered and sent to Dover Base for identification...
Some of the bodies matched the people on the plane ..

And the people on the planes have never been heard from again...
And if it was a missile then where is the friggin plane?

Isn't that a good question?

If it WAS a missile what happened to the plane and why lie about it?

If it was a plane then why are there no frigging pictures of it?

Isn't that a good question?

Damn, it's like you do it on purpose... oh wait, you do...

 



 
 

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 4:18 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 4:18 am

There's footage of pieces of the plane and wreckage

No, there isn't..

And don't pretend that a few planted pieces that would fit in a pick up truck prove that, I already showed you what a real plane crash looks like...

It's funny how you keep avoiding the question, why are there no pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon?


 
 

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 5:11 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 5:11 am

There's numerous photos of wreckage...

But you're sure that the phony FBI guys planted them?
And somehow the original plane flew across country to Area 51?

That would mean that Norad, the phony FBI agents and people at Area 51 are all part of your conspiracy....

Tell us...
During a clear Tuesday morning where did this missile come from and why wasn't it picked up on radar?

Oh wait..
The people on radar are part of your conspiracy too....

Why don't you tell us something for a change..

Jantje_Smit » 25 Jul 2023, 4:47 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 4:47 am

It's funny how you keep avoiding the question, why are there no pictures of a plane hitting the Pentagon?

 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 2:58 pm

We were attacked numerous times under Clinton you God Damn idiot

not by 9/11/01 terrorists which is what this thread is about ...........

why did GW ignore warnings from his National Security Team, the FBI and others? 

Guess he was never presidential material............... too lazy and stupid!!!!!!!!  AND a damn fool!!!
 

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 5:23 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 5:23 am

Tell us...
You say the FBI agents there were phony agents...

Since the FBI headquarters is like 3 miles away don't you think the real FBI agents would realize they were phony?

Unless of course the real FBI agents on that morning are part of the conspiracy too.


 

Every social chain of command operates on the need to know top down or should I say inside out. Leaders keep secrets, followers just obey orders.

How would corruption thrive in plain sight of each society governed by do as you are told or else social architecture of context over content evolving in real time?

Another one of those suspicious things... they had it ready but they needed a good excuse.. a new Pearl Harbor...

Many people do not know that the USA PATRIOT Act was already written and ready to go long before September 11th.

https://www.globalissues.org/article/34 ... before-911

 


 

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 5:27 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 5:27 am

Why don't you prove is something for a change?

I keep proving that your (lack of) arguments are **** all the time...

(But dead bodies from the plane were found at the Pentagon)

Like that one, there is no evidence that the bodies were found at the Pentagon..

And somehow a truck bringing plane wreackage to the Pentagon was allowed to just drive up and drop plane parts all over the place...

All over the place... lol.. they could simply paint a pick up truck red, put a logo of the fire department on it and dump that there when no one was looking..

 


 
 

I didn't design the mind you chose to become a who in reality.

I can explain how your brain got here in the proximity of adapting to life been eternally separated since conceived. The change from believing nobody can know to anyone can understand life in real time is up to you alone.

I have explained it already, and you still won't accept how living works in plain sight.

Not my fault anymore.

this is the title to your thread 9/11 was an inside job. Change my mind. Your second chance, choice to stop staying corrupted cradle to grave.

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 6:16 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 6:16 am

Have you read what you've posted?

Do you realize how damn stupid you sound? 

Damn.. lol.. you're getting irksome, you're in desperate need of a mirror..

...How could a truck just drive up and place dead bodies in front of so much security...??

But just for fun, you're deliberatedly ignoring what I said, there weren't any dead bodies (of passengers) at the Pentagon, they were delivered at the morgue so they could be identified as vicims from the fake plane attack (so no, the doctors at the morgue didn't need to be part of the conspiracy).


 
 
 

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 6:16 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 6:16 am

So now we have fake fire trucks too?

Have you read what you've posted?
You now have countless people in your conspiracy....

Truck drivers....
NORAD..
People at Area 51
Doctors that identified bodies from the plane...
Phony FBI agents..
Real FBI agents that didn't say anything about the phony ones...
How about air traffic controllers that never reported a plane headed to Area 51 when all the skies were shut down...
And of course numerous people that saw a cruise missile and never reported it...

And of course the people that saw the missile hit the Pentagon and told everyone it was a plane...

By the way...
Since the plane landed at Area 51 how did bodies from the plane ended in the debris at the Pentagon...

You'd have to have people transport the dead bodies from Nevada back to DC almost immediately..
And the area around the Pentagon was highly secured....
...How could a truck just drive up and place dead bodies in front of so much security...??
Unless of course the security were part of your conspiracy!!

Do you realize how damn stupid you sound?

 And once the plane landed at Area 51 the passengers were murdered and then flown back 2500 miles and placed in the wreckage???
AND you actually believe this crap?

               This much circulated photo of a piece of the Plane wreckage was taken minutes after Flight 77 struck the Pentagon ---not hours or days... For it to have gotten there so quickly, the Men in Black would have been riding that magic missile, and dropped it on the Pentagon lawn before the moment of impact.. 
 

Kobia2 » 25 Jul 2023, 6:35 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 6:35 am

               This much circulated photo of a piece of the Plane wreckage was taken minutes after Flight 77 struck the Pentagon ---not hours or days... For it to have gotten there so quickly, the Men in Black would have been riding that magic missile, and dropped it on the Pentagon lawn before the moment of impact.. 
 

Pilot error? Simple dead air pocket and the plane lost lift?

            For those who seek proof regarding physical evidence of the American Airlines Boeing 757 Flight 77 that was flown into the Pentagon,  I recommend you check out this Site.... What the Site did years ago was collect photos, witness statements and related information from all available sources, with links to such sources.. 

https://rense.com/general32/phot.htm
           Photos Of Flt 77 Wreckage
Inside The PentagonThe recent Pentagon crash discussion on Rense.com has almost entirely focused on photos of plane debris on the lawn. Since most of the plane reportedly entered the building, we should also look for images of debris inside the building. Unfortunately, such images are very hard to come by since: (1) Much of the debris was burned and torn beyond recognition, (2) Most FEMA photos in the public domain were taken on 9/14/01, after much of the debris was cleared out of the building, (3) Most other photos remain in the private hands of investigators, rescue workers, and others who were inside the building. Many images are officially classified. The following article attempts to bring together all known images sent to me or in the public domain that show aircraft debris inside the Pentagon. The images were either found online or sent to me by recovery workers to be used with permission. First, we shall examine witness accounts of plane debris inside the Pentagon. These were given by recovery workers, firefighters, engineers, and Pentagon officials. Their statements help in interpreting the various photos taken inside the building.
 
          Most of the heaped scrap is unrecognizable, but there are two pieces of metal bearing yellow-green primer which were not burned thoroughly. Charles Burkhammer similarly noted small lime-green pieces of aircraft interior.
  

Resting next to another pillar is another section of lime-green material bearing clear rivet lines (photographed by FEMA's Jocelyn Augustino):


     This photo of engine remains was taken in either D or C-ring by VATF-1 workers. The large circular piece in the middle appears to be the diffusor section of the compressor, though this is not known for certain. Note the torn column nettings on the right. On the left is an obvious piece of yellow-primed aircraft fuselage bearing rivet holes and a twisted silver metal piece next to it.    :              the following photo shows a landing gear found inside C-ring near the punchout hole. Note how completely charred the rest of the debris was.

     In the heap of debris next to the hole lies an airliner wheel hub from one of the landing gears (as shown on TLC's "Pentagon Under Fire," aired 9/11/02):
  The following photo, which ironically enough graced the cover of T. Meyssan's "Pentagate" book, shows both the fuselage fragment and the wheel hub:
                  
 
 

      This is from another site that in similar approach gathered information from numerous sources to consolidate into a single reference point...

       This site has over 100 Witness Statements regarding American Airlines Flight 77 which struck the Pentagon on 9/11....Analysis of Eyewitness Statements on 9/11 American Airlines Flight 77 Crash into the Pentagon by Penny Schoner Original Presentation: December 2003 Updated Hypertext Version: 21 February 2004
      
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/F77pentagon.html

             Contents

1. Introduction
2. List of Points regarding plane hitting Pentagon
   Eyewitness Reports:
   1. Before and After the Plane Crashed the Pentagon
      - Eighty-Seven Witness Statements
   2. Of Jet Fuel
   3. Of Plane Clipping Lamp Posts, Sign
   4. Of Plane Parts After the Crash
   5. Referring to Missile-Like Plane
   6. On the Sounds of Jet Engines Before Crash
   7. Regarding Reinforced Walls of Pentagon
   8. Of Other Aircraft in Area of Pentagon
   9. By Radar Operators
   10. Of FBI Combing Area After Crash
   11. Photographs of Crash Site and Parts of Plane
   12. Index of Names

   
 

Kobia2 » 25 Jul 2023, 6:53 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 6:53 am

            For those who seek proof regarding physical evidence of the American Airlines Boeing 757 Flight 77 that was flown into the Pentagon,  I recommend you check out this Site....

Which site do you recommend for pictures of an airplane hitting the Pentagon?


 
 

maineman » 24 Jul 2023, 2:09 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 2:09 pm

Flight 77 wasn't a 747.

Either way. The wings themselves would have extended that hole to what it was. 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 2:02 pm

There were body and parts indentified as plane passengers...

Who identified them?

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 5:23 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 5:23 am

Tell us...
You say the FBI agents there were phony agents...

Since the FBI headquarters is like 3 miles away don't you think the real FBI agents would realize they were phony?

Unless of course the real FBI agents on that morning are part of the conspiracy too.

Remember that psycho that blew up the FBI building and killed over 200 people? If he was able to just drive up to the FBI building and blow it up without being noticed by the FBI, then I am pretty sure the FBI would be fooled quite easily.

Neo » 24 Jul 2023, 12:45 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 12:45 pm

I am a licensed pilot.  Yes autopilot makes 99.95% of flights routine to the level of boring. Yes theoretically the planes could have been programmed to fly into the buildings. When a plane has an unexpected flight change mid course the crew would be contacting atc and disabling the autopilot in pretty short order. Finding the autopilot locked they would take failsafe measures to manually disable it. All while screaming to air traffic control. None of that occurred. 

Dozens of passengers called home and described middle eastern men with box cutters. Deep fakes? Crisis actors?

If it's a computer, then it can be hacked. Any computerized anything can be hacked. 

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:33 am

If it's a computer, then it can be hacked. Any computerized anything can be hacked. 

Any brain of chromosomes can be educated to believe they aren't equally evolving in plain sight at the same time.

Jantje_Smit » 25 Jul 2023, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 8:42 am

Which site do you recommend for pictures of an airplane hitting the Pentagon?

This was my thought. The article itself even stated that those photos were taken on 9/14/11 and that most of the debri was cleaned out. A more convincing approach would be to see the plane pieces on that day at ground zero. There still would be pieces intact, like the tail, especially. That hole doesn't even have charred marks on the side of where the wings would have hit. None of those pics are shown at the pentagon. Look at the hole. That is too small for a plane. 

@Kobia2