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            For those who seek proof regarding physical evidence of the American Airlines Boeing 757 Flight 77 that was flown into the Pentagon,  I recommend you check out this Site.... What the Site did years ago was collect photos, witness statements and related information from all available sources, with links to such sources.. 

https://rense.com/general32/phot.htm
           Photos Of Flt 77 Wreckage
Inside The PentagonThe recent Pentagon crash discussion on Rense.com has almost entirely focused on photos of plane debris on the lawn. Since most of the plane reportedly entered the building, we should also look for images of debris inside the building. Unfortunately, such images are very hard to come by since: (1) Much of the debris was burned and torn beyond recognition, (2) Most FEMA photos in the public domain were taken on 9/14/01, after much of the debris was cleared out of the building, (3) Most other photos remain in the private hands of investigators, rescue workers, and others who were inside the building. Many images are officially classified. The following article attempts to bring together all known images sent to me or in the public domain that show aircraft debris inside the Pentagon. The images were either found online or sent to me by recovery workers to be used with permission. First, we shall examine witness accounts of plane debris inside the Pentagon. These were given by recovery workers, firefighters, engineers, and Pentagon officials. Their statements help in interpreting the various photos taken inside the building.
 
          Most of the heaped scrap is unrecognizable, but there are two pieces of metal bearing yellow-green primer which were not burned thoroughly. Charles Burkhammer similarly noted small lime-green pieces of aircraft interior.
  

Resting next to another pillar is another section of lime-green material bearing clear rivet lines (photographed by FEMA's Jocelyn Augustino):


     This photo of engine remains was taken in either D or C-ring by VATF-1 workers. The large circular piece in the middle appears to be the diffusor section of the compressor, though this is not known for certain. Note the torn column nettings on the right. On the left is an obvious piece of yellow-primed aircraft fuselage bearing rivet holes and a twisted silver metal piece next to it.    :              the following photo shows a landing gear found inside C-ring near the punchout hole. Note how completely charred the rest of the debris was.

     In the heap of debris next to the hole lies an airliner wheel hub from one of the landing gears (as shown on TLC's "Pentagon Under Fire," aired 9/11/02):
  The following photo, which ironically enough graced the cover of T. Meyssan's "Pentagate" book, shows both the fuselage fragment and the wheel hub:
                  
 
 

      This is from another site that in similar approach gathered information from numerous sources to consolidate into a single reference point...

       This site has over 100 Witness Statements regarding American Airlines Flight 77 which struck the Pentagon on 9/11....Analysis of Eyewitness Statements on 9/11 American Airlines Flight 77 Crash into the Pentagon by Penny Schoner Original Presentation: December 2003 Updated Hypertext Version: 21 February 2004
      
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/F77pentagon.html

             Contents

1. Introduction
2. List of Points regarding plane hitting Pentagon
   Eyewitness Reports:
   1. Before and After the Plane Crashed the Pentagon
      - Eighty-Seven Witness Statements
   2. Of Jet Fuel
   3. Of Plane Clipping Lamp Posts, Sign
   4. Of Plane Parts After the Crash
   5. Referring to Missile-Like Plane
   6. On the Sounds of Jet Engines Before Crash
   7. Regarding Reinforced Walls of Pentagon
   8. Of Other Aircraft in Area of Pentagon
   9. By Radar Operators
   10. Of FBI Combing Area After Crash
   11. Photographs of Crash Site and Parts of Plane
   12. Index of Names

   
 

Kobia2 » 25 Jul 2023, 6:53 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 6:53 am

            For those who seek proof regarding physical evidence of the American Airlines Boeing 757 Flight 77 that was flown into the Pentagon,  I recommend you check out this Site....

Which site do you recommend for pictures of an airplane hitting the Pentagon?


 
 

maineman » 24 Jul 2023, 2:09 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 2:09 pm

Flight 77 wasn't a 747.

Either way. The wings themselves would have extended that hole to what it was. 

Z09 » 24 Jul 2023, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 2:02 pm

There were body and parts indentified as plane passengers...

Who identified them?

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 5:23 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 5:23 am

Tell us...
You say the FBI agents there were phony agents...

Since the FBI headquarters is like 3 miles away don't you think the real FBI agents would realize they were phony?

Unless of course the real FBI agents on that morning are part of the conspiracy too.

Remember that psycho that blew up the FBI building and killed over 200 people? If he was able to just drive up to the FBI building and blow it up without being noticed by the FBI, then I am pretty sure the FBI would be fooled quite easily.

Neo » 24 Jul 2023, 12:45 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2023, 12:45 pm

I am a licensed pilot.  Yes autopilot makes 99.95% of flights routine to the level of boring. Yes theoretically the planes could have been programmed to fly into the buildings. When a plane has an unexpected flight change mid course the crew would be contacting atc and disabling the autopilot in pretty short order. Finding the autopilot locked they would take failsafe measures to manually disable it. All while screaming to air traffic control. None of that occurred. 

Dozens of passengers called home and described middle eastern men with box cutters. Deep fakes? Crisis actors?

If it's a computer, then it can be hacked. Any computerized anything can be hacked. 

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:33 am

If it's a computer, then it can be hacked. Any computerized anything can be hacked. 

Any brain of chromosomes can be educated to believe they aren't equally evolving in plain sight at the same time.

Jantje_Smit » 25 Jul 2023, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 8:42 am

Which site do you recommend for pictures of an airplane hitting the Pentagon?

This was my thought. The article itself even stated that those photos were taken on 9/14/11 and that most of the debri was cleaned out. A more convincing approach would be to see the plane pieces on that day at ground zero. There still would be pieces intact, like the tail, especially. That hole doesn't even have charred marks on the side of where the wings would have hit. None of those pics are shown at the pentagon. Look at the hole. That is too small for a plane. 

@Kobia2  

Just wait until BIDEN REGIME commits his next act of terrorism

at the...Zaporizhzhia Nuke Power Plant.  Largest NPP in Europe.

NATO is losing and fisting its diseased *** furiously along with SKY SCREAMING...

they really need a FALSE FLAG - to blame on Putin


 
 
 

Jantje_Smit » 25 Jul 2023, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 8:42 am

Which site do you recommend for pictures of an airplane hitting the Pentagon?

 
 

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:33 am

If it's a computer, then it can be hacked. Any computerized anything can be hacked.

Hacking is one thing. That is implausible but not impossible. What is impossible is the flight crew not noticing the flight changing course and taking drastic actions to disable a failing autopilot. They would have screamed bloody murder about a technical malfunction, not made up stories about hijacking. 
 

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:17 am

Either way. The wings themselves would have extended that hole to what it was.

The wings were sheered back as the plane entered the building. Remember it was a very heavily fortified building and the wings were weaker than that fortification.

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:23 am

Remember that psycho that blew up the FBI building and killed over 200 people? If he was able to just drive up to the FBI building and blow it up without being noticed by the FBI, then I am pretty sure the FBI would be fooled quite easily.

This is probably one of the dumbest things I've ever read. He parked a Ryder rental box truck, that no one could see inside, on the street in front of a building in Oklahoma City in the mid 90's. Not exactly an area or time one would suspect terrorist activity.

Jantje_Smit » 25 Jul 2023, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 8:42 am

Which site do you recommend for pictures of an airplane hitting the Pentagon?

            There are 2 Videos of such, from where the Security Cameras were mounted on the section of the Bldg. referred to was "Wedge 1".. The reason both Videos of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon appear as a quick blurr is because those Cameras had a slow speed Rate of 1 Frame per Second ----  The Plane was traveling 550 miles an hour, which is 780 ft per Second when it struck the Pentagon.... yes, it would be great if these 2 security cameras at the Pentagon were of a high-speed type that would have captured clear pictures, but they were most likely for videoing motor vehicles & people at ground level --- which the Camera's positioning were directed at... 

            The absence of more clear footage of the Plane, doesn't negate the enormous preponderance of additional eyewitness &  physical evidence supporting the fact American Airlines Flight 77 was flown into the Pentagon.. 

          




            

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:18 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:18 am

Who identified them?

             I already provided you that source, including a witness statement by one of the leading Forensic Anthropologists Dr. Robert Mann involved in identifying the charred body parts which were brought to Dover Air Force Base..... Over 100 personnel were involved in this task...

            These human remains were removed from inside the Pentagon, and brought to the temporary morgue setup in the Pentagon's North Parking lot, and later transferred to Dover... 

            https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/390 ... on-attack/

    
 
             

 

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:39 am

This was my thought. The article itself even stated that those photos were taken on 9/14/11 and that most of the debri was cleaned out. A more convincing approach would be to see the plane pieces on that day at ground zero. There still would be pieces intact, like the tail, especially. That hole doesn't even have charred marks on the side of where the wings would have hit. None of those pics are shown at the pentagon. Look at the hole. That is too small for a plane. 

@Kobia2

                This photo was not taken on 9/14/2001...
   It was taken on 9/11 shortly after American Airlines Flight 77 impacted the Pentagon on Sept 11th ... You can see in the background behind the piece of the Aircraft the lawn littered with debris and fire crews who arrived within minutes are working to put out the fire... 

            https://www.military.com/history/25-int ... -9-11.html

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                       A piece of aircraft lies in the grass while fire crews work to put out the flames in the minutes after the attack, 11 September 2001. (U.S. Navy/JO1 Mark Faram)
 
 

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:17 am

Either way. The wings themselves would have extended that hole to what it was.

^^^ sez the board's resident aeronautical engineer.  

maineman » 25 Jul 2023, 1:09 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 1:09 pm

^^^ sez the board's resident aeronautical engineer.

I would wager that all folks here that support the govt version of 911

are also neocons who have supported all Wash DC establishment wars....