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Just wait until BIDEN REGIME commits his next act of terrorism

at the...Zaporizhzhia Nuke Power Plant.  Largest NPP in Europe.

NATO is losing and fisting its diseased *** furiously along with SKY SCREAMING...

they really need a FALSE FLAG - to blame on Putin


 
 
 

Jantje_Smit » 25 Jul 2023, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 8:42 am

Which site do you recommend for pictures of an airplane hitting the Pentagon?

 
 

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:33 am

If it's a computer, then it can be hacked. Any computerized anything can be hacked.

Hacking is one thing. That is implausible but not impossible. What is impossible is the flight crew not noticing the flight changing course and taking drastic actions to disable a failing autopilot. They would have screamed bloody murder about a technical malfunction, not made up stories about hijacking. 
 

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:17 am

Either way. The wings themselves would have extended that hole to what it was.

The wings were sheered back as the plane entered the building. Remember it was a very heavily fortified building and the wings were weaker than that fortification.

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:23 am

Remember that psycho that blew up the FBI building and killed over 200 people? If he was able to just drive up to the FBI building and blow it up without being noticed by the FBI, then I am pretty sure the FBI would be fooled quite easily.

This is probably one of the dumbest things I've ever read. He parked a Ryder rental box truck, that no one could see inside, on the street in front of a building in Oklahoma City in the mid 90's. Not exactly an area or time one would suspect terrorist activity.

Jantje_Smit » 25 Jul 2023, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 8:42 am

Which site do you recommend for pictures of an airplane hitting the Pentagon?

            There are 2 Videos of such, from where the Security Cameras were mounted on the section of the Bldg. referred to was "Wedge 1".. The reason both Videos of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon appear as a quick blurr is because those Cameras had a slow speed Rate of 1 Frame per Second ----  The Plane was traveling 550 miles an hour, which is 780 ft per Second when it struck the Pentagon.... yes, it would be great if these 2 security cameras at the Pentagon were of a high-speed type that would have captured clear pictures, but they were most likely for videoing motor vehicles & people at ground level --- which the Camera's positioning were directed at... 

            The absence of more clear footage of the Plane, doesn't negate the enormous preponderance of additional eyewitness &  physical evidence supporting the fact American Airlines Flight 77 was flown into the Pentagon.. 

          




            

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:18 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:18 am

Who identified them?

             I already provided you that source, including a witness statement by one of the leading Forensic Anthropologists Dr. Robert Mann involved in identifying the charred body parts which were brought to Dover Air Force Base..... Over 100 personnel were involved in this task...

            These human remains were removed from inside the Pentagon, and brought to the temporary morgue setup in the Pentagon's North Parking lot, and later transferred to Dover... 

            https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/390 ... on-attack/

    
 
             

 

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:39 am

This was my thought. The article itself even stated that those photos were taken on 9/14/11 and that most of the debri was cleaned out. A more convincing approach would be to see the plane pieces on that day at ground zero. There still would be pieces intact, like the tail, especially. That hole doesn't even have charred marks on the side of where the wings would have hit. None of those pics are shown at the pentagon. Look at the hole. That is too small for a plane. 

@Kobia2

                This photo was not taken on 9/14/2001...
   It was taken on 9/11 shortly after American Airlines Flight 77 impacted the Pentagon on Sept 11th ... You can see in the background behind the piece of the Aircraft the lawn littered with debris and fire crews who arrived within minutes are working to put out the fire... 

            https://www.military.com/history/25-int ... -9-11.html

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                       A piece of aircraft lies in the grass while fire crews work to put out the flames in the minutes after the attack, 11 September 2001. (U.S. Navy/JO1 Mark Faram)
 
 

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 11:17 am

Either way. The wings themselves would have extended that hole to what it was.

^^^ sez the board's resident aeronautical engineer.  

maineman » 25 Jul 2023, 1:09 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 1:09 pm

^^^ sez the board's resident aeronautical engineer.

I would wager that all folks here that support the govt version of 911

are also neocons who have supported all Wash DC establishment wars....

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 3:21 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 3:21 pm

They were taken to Dover Base and identifiied by experts

I can't attest to the bodies, if there were really any. All I can attest to is physics. There would have, at the very least, been the tail sticking out. Google 'pics of 727 plane crashes' and you can many still had their tails intact. 



 

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 3:26 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 3:26 pm

I support the government version...

If you have another version share it with us...

Respectfully, Im sure sure you nearly always

support WASH DCs version of all major events...especially on foreign policy.
 

Kobia2 » 25 Jul 2023, 12:50 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 12:50 pm

                This photo was not taken on 9/14/2001...
   It was taken on 9/11 shortly after American Airlines Flight 77 impacted the Pentagon on Sept 11th ... You can see in the background behind the piece of the Aircraft the lawn littered with debris and fire crews who arrived within minutes are working to put out the fire... 

            https://www.military.com/history/25-int ... -9-11.html

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                       A piece of aircraft lies in the grass while fire crews work to put out the flames in the minutes after the attack, 11 September 2001. (U.S. Navy/JO1 Mark Faram)

Why would it be impossible to have that piece planted there within minutes? Also, with all of the chaos, would people really be questioning anything weird at that moment when all that shock and weirdness was going on anyway? If I witnessed a train wreck, that was still blazing with fire, I doubt I would be standing around looking for inconspicuous things. I would be looking at the train wreck that is on fire. Especially if I was one of the first responders. I would be busy trying to do my job. 

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 3:25 pm

How do you explain all the eye witness statements....?

Witnessess sitting in cars saw an American Airlines plane right close to the ground and the crashing into the Pentagon...

Dozen's...

Are they all lying?

I don't take eye witnesses seriously. I don't care how many there are. I look at the physics. Physics never lies. 

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 3:37 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 3:37 pm

Why would it be impossible to have that piece planted there within minutes? Also, with all of the chaos, would people really be questioning anything weird at that moment when all that shock and weirdness was going on anyway? If I witnessed a train wreck, that was still blazing with fire, I doubt I would be standing around looking for inconspicuous things. I would be looking at the train wreck that is on fire. Especially if I was one of the first responders. I would be busy trying to do my job.

You're making yourself look foolish. Conspiracy theories are fine if there's at least a smidgen of proof. But there's overwhelming evidence that the events of that day happened the way they were reported. Do you seriously think 1000's of ordinary citizens are involved in a cover up? C'mon man. You're being a "lying dog faced pony soldier."   

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 4:37 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 4:37 pm

And don't forget....

Another poster said the original plane was flown to Area 51.....
But somehow the bodies were at the crash site in DC ?

Well that's just **** stupid.

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 4:26 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 4:26 pm

87 witnesses saying they saw the plane hit the building...




https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/F77pentagon.html#p3
 

This whole thread is the same technique use in climate change as a narrative.

Yes 9/11 was an inside the species destroying itself attack over which ideology inherits the souls captured by reasonable doubt in next generations until some other system of denial takes over.

Z09 » 25 Jul 2023, 3:39 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 3:39 pm

I'm skeptical of my government more than ever...

Do I think the government could pull off 911?

Nope
Not a chance

#1 question.
Why?

I posted "why" about 20 times.

"""we need a new Pearl Harbor moment''''  LOL, the **** put it in writing in 2000.

911 has made $$$$TRILLIONS for the War Complex.  Whoever, however....we know who profited BIGLY.
 

Vegas » 25 Jul 2023, 3:37 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2023, 3:37 pm

Why would it be impossible to have that piece planted there within minutes? Also, with all of the chaos, would people really be questioning anything weird at that moment when all that shock and weirdness was going on anyway? If I witnessed a train wreck, that was still blazing with fire, I doubt I would be standing around looking for inconspicuous things. I would be looking at the train wreck that is on fire. Especially if I was one of the first responders. I would be busy trying to do my job.

            The Photo wasn't taken by a First Responder... It was taken by Navy Journalist (Jo1) Mark Faram who was stationed at the Pentagon... The First responders were fighting fires, treating & rescuing survivors.... 

             I'm really trying to understand where you're coming from -- based on what you've posted in this discussion... This is what I've heard from you...
1. There were no 19 Al Qaeda Terrorists who hijacked 4 Commercial Airlines on Sept 11th 2001.
2. The Planes were taken over by remote control -- discounting Airport video footage of the Hijackers boarding these Flights.
3. The Phone calls & voice recordings from passengers & crew aboard the Planes to loved ones were either electronically fabricated or simply never occurred.. 
4. The Hijackers were not armed with Box Cutters --- despite people aboard communicating that other passengers & crew had been stabbed.. 
5. The voice recording of Hijacker Mohamed Atta warning Passengers to remain still was also either electronically created, or never occurred.. 
6. All 87+ Witnesses who saw a Commercial Airline crash into the Pentagon are either hallucinating - complicit in the attack & cover-up - or are also people who never existed..
7. The people who witnessed Plane debris inside the Pentagon crash site are also co-conspirators and lying.... They planted pieces of the Boeing 757 in the crash site while simultaneously removing all pieces & trace of the Missile that supposedly hit the Bldg.  
8. All of the eye witnesses and responders who saw or handled charred remains & body parts from Flight 77 are also lying, or were complicit in planting those human remains there.
9. The Forensic Anthropologist Dr. Robert Mann who played a lead in the task of identifying the remains (& partial remains) at Dover Air Force Base Delaware, as well as his 100 colleagues was also complicit in a cover-up....