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Sumela » 26 Jul 2023, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 9:51 am

Why does WASH DC

always create chaos

in the world.....

??

Because they have a bigger dick than the rest of the countries and they want to make sure everyone knows it. Also, there is a lot of money that can be made in war. Not for the tax payers, but for many private companies. 

Kobia2 » 26 Jul 2023, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 9:15 am

         1.   First you said it was impossible that a Commercial Boeing 757 could fly that low at such speed --- Wherever you learned that from they were wrong...  

I still say that but I also say it doesn't matter, I can't be bothered to argue about it..

   2.  Now you assert the Hijackers were cave-dwellers incapable of executing the attack.... All 4 Terrorists who piloted the Planes were college educated... The remaining 15 were for the physical task of overpowering the Planes Crew .. The Pilot who took over control of Flight 77 Hani Hanjour was actually the only one of the 4 Pilots who already had his Pilot's License prior to being recruited by Al Qaeda to be trained  for the 9/11 Mission... He received his Pilot's License in Arizona 1999... 

That's the same thing.. who cares if they were college educated or if one had a license for a small plane.. there are plenty of trained pilots that said the manoeuvres those planes made on 9/11 were impossible to pull off for someone who only spend a few hours on a flight simulator.. yeah, I also lost the link for that.. and it also doesn't matter..

3.  I have and it makes perfect sense --- The Video footage is obviously limited and blurry and the sources I provided explained why..  Do you know for a fact the cameras in that photo you posted are not the ones that took the footage which was released? The footage was collaborated by every single witness who saw the Plane descending and hit the Pentagon --- not a single witness in 20 years has come forward to say they saw a Missile or anything else... Keep in mind, most of the eyewitnesses were civilians using a roadway parallel to the Pentagon complex --- they were not DOD Employees in some government conspiracy. .. 

Yes, that's the point of the picture I posted.. what happened to the footage of all those security cameras that should have gotten a clear picture of the plane hitting the Pentagon.. you still avoid that question...

As for the witnesses, I already told zo9..

       4.  I already posted pictures of Aircraft debris from both inside & outside the crash site --- including part of the Plane's landing gear that was inside, and pieces such as one of the Plane's wheel hubs that was just outside the Bldg... As for the dead bodies, again, the charred corpses & body parts of the Passengers, Crew (and the Hijackers through process of elimination) were taken from inside the Pentagon -- brought to the temporary morgue set up in the North Parking Lot --- then flown to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware for forensic examination & identification... Do you believe someone planted the corpses & limbs from Flight 77 in the Pentagon crash site , or that they were simply never there in the first place? 

They were simply never there in the first place.. they were dropped off at Dover AFB (no, not from area51.. lol) and the doctors there were told they were from the Pentagon.. but you could prove me wrong wih some pictures.. oh wait...

 




 
 

Z09 » 26 Jul 2023, 10:05 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 10:05 am

There's numerous photos of debris from the Pentagon

No, there isn't.

Vegas » 26 Jul 2023, 9:53 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 9:53 am

Because they have a bigger dick than the rest of the countries and they want to make sure everyone knows it. Also, there is a lot of money that can be made in war. Not for the tax payers, but for many private companies.

That sounds right to me.

The Empire of Chaos

A term coined by journalist Pepe Escobar
Create chaos, because chaos can be exploited.
 

Sumela » 26 Jul 2023, 10:11 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 10:11 am

That sounds right to me.

The Empire of Chaos

A term coined by journalist Pepe Escobar
Create chaos, because chaos can be exploited.

The average American is clueless. Spoiled and content. None of our countries actions are on our front door, so they go on with their day believing that America is the capital of democracy and freedom. Looking good on social media is the priority, along with staring at the phones all day. 

Vegas » 26 Jul 2023, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 10:15 am

The average American is clueless. Spoiled and content. None of our countries actions are on our front door, so they go on with their day believing that America is the capital of democracy and freedom. Looking good on social media is the priority, along with staring at the phones all day.

Well, we are witnessing a watershed moment

as the multi-polar world emerges.  

WASH DC is in a panic.....fisting their asses furiously
 

Z09 » 26 Jul 2023, 10:16 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 10:16 am

Yep...
You said the witnesses wanted to be famous
And the FBI weren't real

Yes... so?

I know it's useless to ask if you can prove me wrong but it's fun to watch you make a fool out of yourself.. not that you have to make an effort for that..

 


 

Vegas » 26 Jul 2023, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 10:15 am

The average American is clueless. Spoiled and content. None of our countries actions are on our front door, so they go on with their day believing that America is the capital of democracy and freedom. Looking good on social media is the priority, along with staring at the phones all day. 

An intellectual mind never admits what their brain navigates in real time being one of a kind. Can you empathize with the mental stress that goes on between the ears and behind the mind of those saving humanity at all costs tto survival of the species?

After birth I was colonized by ancestral social consensus governing my ancestry to believe living exceeds the space my body has occupied here now since a fertilized cell.

Now imagine using human technology that bypasses intellectual timezones on a rotating planet to where all 24 hours are just context by power of suggestion corrupted one species for the last 7.000 years of recording the methods used to keep it going until extinction happens.

So when time doesn't change anything, everything never the same is being eternally separated as evolving in plain sight each lifetime is required to navigate around all others occupying the moment here same as oneself a mere replacement for their own 4 previous generation gaps.

Are you an original 1 of 16 great great grandparents of each great great grandchild born?
Are you even 1 of 8 great grandparents of that same child arriving?
Are you 1 of 4 grandparents to that last arrival of your genetic lineage going forward here?
Did you ever become 1 of 2 parents yet?

When you die never been a parent, where will your specific chromosomes go? extinction. Time to change your mind and get back to navigating space with your sole brain.
Your soul collective contextual character role playing social identity is trapped in denial sustained by promises made and secrets kept..

Nostradamus'omh » 26 Jul 2023, 10:32 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 10:32 am

 Can you empathize with the mental stress that goes on behind the ears and behind the mind of those saving humanity at all costs tto survival of the species?


 

I couldn't careless about mankind. **** the world. Our species is a huge cancer on Earth. We don't deserve to continue. 

Vegas » 26 Jul 2023, 10:34 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 10:34 am

I couldn't careless about mankind. **** the world. Our species is a huge cancer on Earth. We don't deserve to continue. 

That is one hell of an attitude. All because you understand everything I post and everything you have done to ignore it. To escape physical eternal hell, you have to stop pretending now isn't eternity.

But since you won't, you keep self fulfilling prophecies working out as designed by human intellect.

Nostradamus'omh » 26 Jul 2023, 10:37 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 10:37 am

That is one hell of an attitude. All because you understand everything I post and everything you have done to ignore it. To escape physical eternal hell, you have to stop pretending now isn't eternity.

But since you won't, you keep self fulfilling prophecies working out as designed by human intellect.

There was an essay written some time ago by an ecologist that was highly celebrated by many different branches of science. He talked about how humans are the only species that ruin the Earth. If Humans were wiped out, Earth would flourish. No other species has that quality. We don't belong here. 

Vegas » 26 Jul 2023, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 10:40 am

There was an essay written some time ago by an ecologist that was highly celebrated by many different branches of science. He talked about how humans are the only species that ruin the Earth. If Humans were wiped out, Earth would flourish. No other species has that quality. We don't belong here. 

Oh look, referring to another person minding reasonable doubt to save power of suggesting now cannot be how evolving happens in plain sight. That would mean everyone's ancestries were enabling reasonable doubt throughout history.

What is that popular definition of insanity again? Doing the same thing over and over expecting a better tomorrow, today.

What is Eternal Hell defined as a punishment for not serving humanity? Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome next generation trained to repeat previous 4.

I ask you to change your mind, and you won't. Even when compounding chromosomes explains why every reproduction is never the same as before in series parallel time evolving forward in plain sight now.

Life is a constant second chance to stop denying how evolving actually happens. Until you die. Point of no return to using your own brain navigating life as specifically eternally separated one of a kind now.

Z09 » 26 Jul 2023, 10:53 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 10:53 am

So you think anyone that disagrees with you makes a "fool out of themselves"..?

When asked you have no idea where the plane went but did suggest it was flown to Area 51?

You've ignored witnesses, photos and video of the attack.

You said the FBI weren't real agents, the witnesses wanted their 15 minutes of fame and when asked where this cruise missile came from you admit you have no idea....

If the government was behind the cruise missile, why would they not try to cover that up?

Witnesses aren't conclusive anything. 
The photos were taken 3 days after the incident. The ones that Kobia showed are not suggestive that they were from the pentagon. 
What video? You mean that one that showed a blur that nobody can make out?

Z09 » 26 Jul 2023, 11:05 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 11:05 am

Makes NO sense...


 

It makes a lot more sense, a ton more sense, than believing that some amateur ragheaded pilot, who learned mostly from a simulator and very few flight hours, could have such great aim and precision to hit a building that isn't a tower high in the air, and leave no plane debri behind. 

Z09 » 26 Jul 2023, 11:37 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 11:37 am

There was debris..

And if two other pilots were able to fly into a building why couldn't a third?

By the way ..
"Great aim and precision"???
THe Pentagon is like 35 acres

No, there wasn't. We went over this already. 

The other planes had much easier targets given that they were so high. They didn't need to fly low and aim for something on the ground. 35 acres on the ground, not up in the air. 

Z09 » 26 Jul 2023, 11:52 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 11:52 am

https://www.military.com/history/25-int ... -9-11.html

LOl. Again, this no indication that this debri was from the pentagon. The first pic on your link Kobie gave me. Notice that the fire has already been put out, the fire crew is putting out the smoke. This means that photo was taken probably an hour after. Plenty of time to place that there.

Z09 » 26 Jul 2023, 12:04 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 12:04 pm

So...
Within an hour of the crash "phony" plane parts are brought to the crash site..
...By the phony FBI agents?

Every part of your theory means more and more people are involved...
And it makes ZERO sense...

Have you considered how dead plane passengers got to the crash site?

Yes. It wouldn't be hard.

There are far more people involved in the government's account.

Pentagon personnel were killed. 

 

Z09 » 26 Jul 2023, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 2:56 pm

It wouldn't be hard to bring dead bodies to a crash site that was heavily guarded after the crash?

I beg to differ

I meant there was staff inside the pentagon working like they always do. 

Vegas » 26 Jul 2023, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 9:51 am

No there isn't. Those photos do not suggest that was from the pentagon.

             So you are going to hold to your assertion every single eye witness who saw a Plane approach, and crash into the Pentagon are liars, hallucinating, or complicit in a Government Conspiracy to attack our own country on 9/11?..... 

             You believe the Pentagon, which is the Headquarters for our Military Department of Defense is complicit in firing a Missile at itself, and killing their own people?.... I remind you over 23,000 Military & Civilian people, along with an additional 3,000 support personnel worked at the Pentagon --- and ZERO of the 26,000 people who were actually there have come forward in all these years to claim it was a Missile fired at them? ... People that worked in that building were there before first responders and FBI --- Several identified Aircraft debris and human remains... None saw pieces of a Missile. 

             ALL the remains recovered from inside the Pentagon were taken to the makeshift morgue in the Pentagon's North Parking lot, and then flown to Dover Air Base in Delaware.... Forensic Anthropologists were able to identify remains and body parts belonging to 184 individuals -- 5 were not identified, this totals 189 people .... Do the math... 125 were reported killed at the Pentagon, and 64 were from Flight 77.... You're the one with the theories --- do you have one as to how those remains & body parts from Flight 77 got inside the crash site -- then on to Dover?.... 

            Does it seem plausible to you that the Hijacked Flight 77, on route to strike the Pentagon, would be made to disappear so that a Missile could seamlessly take it's flight path to hit that same target?... 

              

Jantje_Smit » 26 Jul 2023, 9:58 am » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2023, 9:58 am

I still say that but I also say it doesn't matter, I can't be bothered to argue about it..

That's the same thing.. who cares if they were college educated or if one had a license for a small plane.. there are plenty of trained pilots that said the manoeuvres those planes made on 9/11 were impossible to pull off for someone who only spend a few hours on a flight simulator.. yeah, I also lost the link for that.. and it also doesn't matter..

Yes, that's the point of the picture I posted.. what happened to the footage of all those security cameras that should have gotten a clear picture of the plane hitting the Pentagon.. you still avoid that question...

As for the witnesses, I already told zo9..

They were simply never there in the first place.. they were dropped off at Dover AFB (no, not from area51.. lol) and the doctors there were told they were from the Pentagon.. but you could prove me wrong wih some pictures.. oh wait...

           They didn't need to be expert Pilots to achieve what they accomplished..... The 2 Hijacker Pilots that were able to divert their Flight's courses to reach Manhattan and fly their Planes into both the North & South Towers did so... The Planes had already taken off when they took control... All that was required of them was to replot the Plane's course, descend, and hit their target..

          It's no different than Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon.... The Plane was already airborne when hijacked.. It was just a matter of changing the Plane's course, descending and striking the 2nd largest office building on the planet at 6.5 MILLION square feet... The Pilots weren't required to take-off, make a skilled landing, or strike a small target.... It's also important to note they flew in the day time in clear weather... 

           We discussed the Cameras.... 
This site has probably the most information on the cameras in use at the Pentagon that day and can give a far more in depth explanation.. There were up to 80 Cameras on the Bldg that day, and this site breaks down where they were in relation to the impact zone..


          The bodies were simply never there in the first place?... The body parts of those on Flight 77 were intermingled with those of the Pentagon workers also killed in the explosion.. They were brought to Dover Air Base together --- unless part of the conspiracy was the Men in Black brought the pieces of human remains from different locations and then tossed them together like a salad... LOL