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Neo » 22 Jul 2023, 8:48 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 8:48 pm

For a building to topple it needs lateral force. Something like an earthquake or tsunami or a load bearing wall to remain standing.

'''''we need a new Pearl Harbor moment''''   sorry, its simply curious
 

                 Can any of the 9/11 Inside Job 'Theorists" explain how a Building that had people & security personnel working in it 24/7 would not notice the Demo Crew and machinery required for the massive undertaking of preparing those Buildings for a controlled Implosion ---- which would have included a roaring symphony of Saws, Jackhammers, etc to remove walls to access and weaken the Building's Support Columns?...  
 

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 8:21 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 8:21 pm

Actually its highly unusual for that to happen.

Unless I’m mistaken it’s never happened except on 9-11.

Here’s why.

Huge steel and glass towers are only put up in dense metro areas where there are incredible fire departments.

Are there fires in the towers?

Probably very common. Here comes the fire department and puts out the fire.

But only on 9-11, there’s two jet liners almost full of fuel hit two huge towers way high up, the fires implode both, then all the twin towers become huge bon fires which feed WTC 7 until it becomes an inferno, and it pan cakes.

The worst sneak attack since Pearl Harbor overwhelmed the fire fighters.

I don’t know that’s ever happened before or since 9-11

 

Kobia2 » 22 Jul 2023, 8:57 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 8:57 pm

                 Can any of the 9/11 Inside Job 'Theorists" explain how a Building that had people & security personnel working in it 24/7 would not notice the Demo Crew and machinery required for the massive undertaking of preparing those Buildings for a controlled Implosion ---- which would have included a roaring symphony of Saws, Jackhammers, etc to remove walls to access and weaken the Building's Support Columns?...  

Its simply odd that wtc7, not hit by a plane, fell in complete perfect free fall.....from just fire.  Its curious

Bruce » 22 Jul 2023, 9:01 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:01 pm

Unless I’m mistaken it’s never happened except on 9-11.

Here’s why.

Huge steel and glass towers are only put up in dense metro areas where there are incredible fire departments.

Are there fires in the towers?

Probably very common. Here comes the fire department and puts out the fire.

But only on 9-11, there’s two jet liners almost full of fuel hit two huge towers way high up, the fires implode both, then all the twin towers become huge bon fires which feed WTC 7 until it becomes an inferno, and it pan cakes.

The worst sneak attack since Pearl Harbor overwhelmed the fire fighters.

I don’t know that’s ever happened before or since 9-11

awwww lil guy,

in inferno...

INFERNO? 

HAHAHA










 


 

'''''''we NEED a new Pearl Harbor moment"""

Gen Wesley Clark....

https://youtu.be/6Knt3rKTqCk

              Can any of the 9/11 "Inside Job" theorists explain how all the credible witnesses who saw the American Airlines Boeing 757 Flight 77 hit the Pentagon were all mistaken or lying?... 

          https://www.wctv.tv/2021/09/07/i-was-as ... tagon-911/ 
  ‘I was astounded’: U.S. Marshal describes seeing plane crash into the Pentagon on 9/11     

       https://www.cbsnews.com/news/september- ... witnesses/Three witnesses to the September 11 attack at the Pentagon tell their stories

        https://iangoddard.com/pentagon_witnesses.htm

   Flight 77 Eyewitnessesat the Pentagon on 911 ELAINE McCUSKER: "Traffic is normally slow right around the Pentagon [...]. I don't know what made me look up, but I did and I saw a very low-flying American Airlines plane that seemed to be accelerating. My first thought was just 'No, no, no, no,' because it was obvious the plane [...] was going to crash."MIKE WALTER: "I saw this plane, a jet, an American Airline's jet [...it] slammed right into the Pentagon."OMAR CAMPO: "It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane. I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire."RYAN JAMES: "When I looked up on my left [...] I see an American Airline plane. A silver plane. I can see 'AA' on the tail. I noticed that the landing gear were up. [...then] he hit full gas [...] and went straight in [to the Pentagon ...] I recognized it immediately as a passenger plane."JAMES CISSELL: "Out of my peripheral vision I saw this plane coming in and it was low - and getting lower. I thought, 'This isn't really happening. That is a big plane.' Then I saw the faces of some of the passengers on board."STEVE RISKUS: "I took these pictures seconds after the plane hit the pentagon. I was traveling on route 27 towards 395 when the plane crossed my path from the right about 100ft in front of me and crashed into the pentagon."
                                     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boAfbXhvSUo
 
 

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 9:06 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:06 pm

awwww lil guy,

in inferno...

INFERNO? 

HAHAHA

The inferno was at the bottom of WTC-7

——

On September 11, 2001, the structure was substantially damaged by debris when the nearby North Tower of the World Trade Center collapsed. The debris ignited fires on multiple lower floors of the building, which continued to burn uncontrolled throughout the afternoon. The building's internal fire suppression system lacked water pressure to fight the fires. The collapse began when a critical internal column buckled and triggered cascading failure of nearby columns throughout, which was first visible from the exterior with the crumbling of a rooftop penthouse structure at 5:20:33 pm. This initiated progressive collapse of the entire building at 5:21:10 pm, according to FEMA,[5]: 23  while the 2008 NIST study placed the final collapse time at 5:20:52 pm.[6]: 19, 21, 50–51  The collapse made the old 7 World Trade Center the first steel skyscraper known to have collapsed primarily due to uncontrolled fires.[7][8]

—-

Yes, it looked odd.

But it’s the first and maybe the last steel and glass tower to pan cake due to structural failure of the steel from only heat.

The Twin Towers got smacked by two huge planes, plus lots of heat.
 

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 9:06 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:06 pm

awwww lil guy,

in inferno...

INFERNO? 

HAHAHA

now is that the third building? There was a third one right?
I've only heard there was. But never saw a pic of that on the tv. Which i thought suspicious.
 

Funny how 911 resulted in the

murder, maiming, dislocation of 10 million Arabs.

The mass migration to Europe, weakening them making them more slave like to WASH DC

The full control of Iraqs oil

The full control of Libyan oil.

Always ask.....qui bono....who benefits.

Seems a fair question to at least consider...."""WE NEED A NEW PEARL HARBOR MOMENT""

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 9:04 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:04 pm

Its simply odd that wtc7, not hit by a plane, fell in complete perfect free fall.....from just fire.  Its curious

           I'm curious how not a soul saw any of the people or enormous amount of preparation involved in the controlled Demo of any of those buildings.... 

            I also remind the "Inside Job" Theorists that much of what got the their theories regarding WTC 7 was the Movie / Documentary called Loose Change....  This was a film made by 2 high school teens in the bedroom of one of their parent's house. 
 

Kobia2 » 22 Jul 2023, 9:29 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:29 pm

           I'm curious how not a soul saw any of the people or enormous amount of preparation involved in the controlled Demo of any of those buildings.... 

            I also remind the "Inside Job" Theorists that much of what got the their theories regarding WTC 7 was the Movie / Documentary called Loose Change....  This was a film made by 2 high school teens in the bedroom of one of their parent's house. 

Fair take, I agree.

But..."""we need a new pearl harbor moment"""

Shazammm, they got.  Are you not curious ever?

Or do just always go full ESTAB
 

sootedupCyndi » 22 Jul 2023, 9:22 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:22 pm

now is that the third building? There was a third one right?
I've only heard there was. But never saw a pic of that on the tv. Which i thought suspicious.

Yes, the 3rd building...not hit by a plane

sootedupCyndi » 22 Jul 2023, 9:22 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:22 pm

now is that the third building? There was a third one right?
I've only heard there was. But never saw a pic of that on the tv. Which i thought suspicious.

The Twin Towers both collapsed within a few hours.  They’d both been gob smacked by planes.

The fire department had 8 hours to evacuate WTC 7.  I don’t think anyone got hurt or died.

The NYFD is likely the best on earth.

But those Muslims had **** on the NYFD supper, indeed.

The collapse of the Twin Towers cut off the water mains 

And the collapsed towers were burning hotter than the hubs of hell, so the NYFD had to stay back.

Now, before you blame America first, either Bush or Clinton or the Deep State, let’s tip our hat to the Muslims that sitting in caves in Afghanistan planned and executed the most successful warlike attack since the Japs snuck up on Pearl Harbor.

They were our enemies but they were damned clever ones.

Go see Oppenheimer to find out how that all ended for the Victors at Pearl Harbor.

And Osama sleeps with the fishes, curtesy of Obama.

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 9:22 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:22 pm

Funny how 911 resulted in the

murder, maiming, dislocation of 10 million Arabs.

The mass migration to Europe, weakening them making them more slave like to WASH DC

The full control of Iraqs oil

The full control of Libyan oil.

Always ask.....qui bono....who benefits.

Seems a fair question to at least consider...."""WE NEED A NEW PEARL HARBOR MOMENT""

        What people should understand was the significance of the 1993 World Trade Center Attack..... 

   It was the same Target by the same Terror organization (Al Qaida ) ..... As you might recall, the plan was to detonate a large Truck Bomb in the basement parking garage of one Tower, and having the detonation cause that tower to collapse into the other, bring both down... Had the attack succeeded as intended, far more would have been killed than on 9/11.... The reason this 1993 attack is largely dismissed is because the result did not match the intent... 

   So what's the difference between 1993 and 2001?...... The 1993 attack happened under Bill Clinton, and the 2001 attack happened under Bush.... No one was crying inside job in 93 under Clinton -- and had Clinton been in Office on 9/11 2001 no one would be crying inside job either... 

Reagan funded/trained Osama Bin Ladin

just like

Obama funded/trained ISIS

WASH DC never changes

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 9:38 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:38 pm

Yes, the 3rd building...not hit by a plane

When I was on a news chat group. There used to be this fella. Day and night- all he said.
I will give anyone who knows what happened to building 7...... A 100,000 dollars.
It has always bugged me that the media never showed that building. I never saw it anyway. 

There also used to be this woman scientist interviewed on the over night radio. Top of her field. That thought it was a secret weapon of some sorts. 
Can't really remember because it was years ago. But she was a fascinating interview. just throwing that out there.


 

Kobia2 » 22 Jul 2023, 9:44 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:44 pm

        What people should understand was the significance of the 1993 World Trade Center Attack..... 

   It was the same Target by the same Terror organization (Al Qaida ) ..... As you might recall, the plan was to detonate a large Truck Bomb in the basement parking garage of one Tower, and having the detonation cause that tower to collapse into the other, bring both down... Had the attack succeeded as intended, far more would have been killed than on 9/11.... The reason this 1993 attack is largely dismissed is because the result did not match the intent... 

   So what's the difference between 1993 and 2001?...... The 1993 attack happened under Bill Clinton, and the 2001 attack happened under Bush.... No one was crying inside job in 93 under Clinton -- and had Clinton been in Office on 9/11 2001 no one would be crying inside job either... 

LOL.

Reagan trained/funded Osama Bin Laden as a proxy army

just like

Obama trained/funded ISIS in Syria

Blow back is a bitch....UKsepSHunlJIzmmmm


 

sootedupCyndi » 22 Jul 2023, 9:45 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:45 pm

When I was on a news chat group. There used to be this fella. Day and night- all he said.
I will give anyone who knows what happened to building 7...... A 100,000 dollars.
It has always bugged me that the media never showed that building. I never saw it anyway. 

There also used to be this woman scientist interviewed on the over night radio. Top of her field. That thought it was a secret weapon of some sorts. 
Can't really remember because it was years ago. But she was a fascinating interview. just throwing that out there.

Always best to remain curious  ...always ask questions
 

Sumela » 22 Jul 2023, 9:37 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jul 2023, 9:37 pm

Fair take, I agree.

But..."""we need a new pearl harbor moment"""

Shazammm, they got.  Are you not curious ever?

Or do just always go full ESTAB

          Don't be an asshole Sumela.... 
  I haven't a problem in the world not taking anything the Government says on face value.... But I don't assume everything is some Black-OPs plot from the Feds which would be going full conspiracy theorist....