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9/11 was an inside job. Change my mind.
9/11 was an inside job. Change my mind.
By Vegas
22 Jul 2023 12:05 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
27 Jul 2023 8:38 am
I get the feeling you're a friggin idiot...
Jantje_Smit » 24 Jul 2023, 2:37 am » wrote: ↑ Another who the **** cares, the deep state is good at making things disappear, maybe they dumped it in the ocean, maybe it went to area 51..
ok, that's a lie, I'm certain of it...And then explain why 87 people are on record saying they saw an American Airlines plane ?
Jantje_Smit » 26 Jul 2023, 6:48 am » wrote: ↑ Nah, most of them are probably convinced they are telling the truth... they saw something hit the Pentagon, the headlines scream it was terrorists hijacking planes so that must have been what they saw, they embellished their story and told the media so they could get their 15 minutes of fame..
Some of them clearly just made it up though, that's one of them..
In memory of Pumpkins
27 Jul 2023 9:04 am
27 Jul 2023 10:23 am
I got the idea that *** is an annoying troll..
Eh, which 50 FBI agents would that be?He already stated the 50 FBI agents were all phonies
In memory of Pumpkins
27 Jul 2023 10:41 am
There is a huge difference between the MIC taking full advantage of Americans outrage over the attacks to make hundreds of billions of dollars and a false flag. The first is undeniably true. The second is flat earther gender ideology fantasy land.Sumela » 27 Jul 2023, 9:04 am » wrote: ↑ 911 ensured that the War Complex
will forever occupy the middle east
as Mafia Muscle for Oil Cos.
27 Jul 2023 10:57 am
The CIA has infiltrated and controlled dozens of terrorists groups ever sinceNeo » 27 Jul 2023, 10:41 am » wrote: ↑ There is a huge difference between the MIC taking full advantage of Americans outrage over the attacks to make hundreds of billions of dollars and a false flag. The first is undeniably true. The second is flat earther gender ideology fantasy land.
D-Bag Reagan used/armed/trained Osama Bin Laden and his Mujahedeen in Afghanistan.
Odd that the same group(s) did 911...20 years later. WASH DC===CHAOS.
Either way, to not think WASH DC brought it on us...now thats fantasy land
27 Jul 2023 11:55 am
Imagine Neocon War *** writing in 2000
""""we need a NEW PEARL HARBOR MOMENT""""
And in 2001......they get a GIFT.....911.
Wow, lucky
""""we need a NEW PEARL HARBOR MOMENT""""
And in 2001......they get a GIFT.....911.
Wow, lucky
27 Jul 2023 12:05 pm
Jesus and his twelve disciples with Mary Magadeline leading the way, were out doing good deeds one day.Z09 » 27 Jul 2023, 11:44 am » wrote: ↑ So 87 people who made statements about the American Airlines plane are all lying??
And Jesus had a friend named Lazarus, that got deathly sick. So his sister Martha sent word to Jesus to come back and heal his friend, and her brother Lazarus.
But Jesus tarried too long. By the time His entourage returned Lazarus had been dead three days, and his corpse stunk.
Jesus wept (guilt?)
And Jesus asked Martha, do you believe I can bring him back to life?
I believe He did just that. Jesus is my Master I follow.
But don’t ask me to prove that happened.
27 Jul 2023 12:07 pm
27 Jul 2023 12:44 pm
Rock » 26 Jul 2023, 10:18 pm » wrote: ↑ That question was answered in the many links that Kobia presented. Obviously you ignored them.
I addressed them. There was no indication that suggested those plane parts were at he pentagon.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
27 Jul 2023 1:34 pm
1. The source you provided was from Sept 13th 2001 ---2 days after the attack... That's awfully quick to make such a conclusion don't you agree?... Many were making all sorts of claims in the early days, which turned out to be erroneous -- some unintentionally, and others were not so.... I provided sources from experienced trained pilots who stated it did not require a high skill level to crash those passenger jets.. I did some searching and there are Pilots on both sides of this, but overwhelmingly most concur it was not impossible for Terrorist Hani Hanjour to accomplish such a maneuver... Witnesses also said along with seeing the Plane clip & knock down street lights -- the wings also tipped up & down a few times as it approached the Pentagon.Jantje_Smit » 27 Jul 2023, 3:38 am » wrote: ↑ Ok, I took the trouble of doing some googling.. at least you are trying to make an argument, unlike the zo9 clown..
Experts say any pilot with basic training could keep a 757 or 767 on a level course. However maneuvering a plane to change its flight path or navigate the craft in changing weather conditions would require months of additional training and experience.
Unlike a small private plane where pilots generally fly visually, a commercial plane like those hijacked Tuesday require a vast command of navigation techniques as well as in-depth knowledge of their myriad systems, from hydraulics to the autopilot.
Hijackers flew skillfully to targets, experts say
Yeah, it's different.. the target was one specific site of the Pentagon, at ground level.. a lot more difficult then hitting a big skyscraper hundreds of feet up.. that's why they used a cruise missile for that instead of a remotely controlled plane...
Another fun question, why would suicide hijackers with amateur pilot skills go through the effort of making a ground level attack which a trained pilot would have trouble pulling off when they could simply dive straight onto to it from above?
lol.. you can discuss what you want but you keep avoiding the question, it's the **** Pentagon with a budget of countless $billions, don't tell me they can't afford high resolution security cameras covering every inch of it... low resolution, one frame a second.. lol.. please.. hundreds of cameras and that's the best they can come up with..
Yes, that's the conspiracy... but go ahead and prove me wrong, see if you can find any pictures of bodies being removed from the Pentagon (the passengers that is)..
2. I think you've boxed yourself into a very small corner, in that unless you are provided a clear picture of Flight 77 striking the Pentagon, burnt human remains, or tagged baggage from the Flight then it couldn't have been a Plane....... Where we differ is here is where I go with the preponderance of the evidence.. I provided a source why there might not have been a clear photo or slow-motion video of Flight && striking the Pentagon, you choose to disagree which is your right... Brushing all the witness and forensic evidence aside, it makes absolutely zero sense that a PLane on route to intentionally crash into the Pentagon would be made to seamlessly vanish -- and a Missile assume the same flight path to strike the same target...
I do appreciate the civil debate
27 Jul 2023 1:56 pm
if, should, would, could, might, may, seems like, same as, but, and, or isn't the same details as every other results done and continuing here now spontaneously individually here with specificity of simultaneously evolving now.Jantje_Smit » 27 Jul 2023, 6:16 am » wrote: ↑ Oh boy...and then you wonder why people think you're totally clueless..
lol.. no, I don't..
See that's what makes you so irksome, the argument is 'there's no pictures of the plane crashing..while there obviously should be... '
You just ignore the second part and hope people won't notice..
Common since conceived senses instinctively navigating around everything outside your own skin for the time being alive now. Series parallel evolving is a kinetic flow with only happening as eternally balancing results continue to never stay the same results again.
My brain sees that as eternity and ancestries getting eternally separated by their individual behavior here now.
27 Jul 2023 2:09 pm
Are you calling @golfboy a liar?Vegas » 27 Jul 2023, 12:44 pm » wrote: ↑ I addressed them. There was no indication that suggested those plane parts were at he pentagon.
viewtopic.php?p=2352181#p2352181
My brother was assigned cleanup outside the Pentagon. He collected aircraft parts for the FAA.
I don't care what anyone claims. He was there. It was a plane, not a missile.
27 Jul 2023 5:41 pm
Rock » 27 Jul 2023, 2:09 pm » wrote: ↑ Are you calling @golfboy a liar?
viewtopic.php?p=2352181#p2352181
No. But perhaps his brother is. Where is the plane?
The hole in the pentagon was 75 feet wide. The wingspan of a Boeing 757 is 125 ft. Where are the wings? At least some pieces of those would be laying around.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
27 Jul 2023 5:56 pm
That was strange.Vegas » 27 Jul 2023, 5:41 pm » wrote: ↑ No. But perhaps his brother is. Where is the plane?
The hole in the pentagon was 75 feet wide. The wingspan of a Boeing 757 is 125 ft. Where are the wings? At least some pieces of those would be laying around.
Why that happened, was that plane (plus the two that hit the Twin Towers) were the largest cruise missiles ever successfully deployed.
A Tomahawk cruise missile weighs about as much as my Chrysler 300 full of fuel. 4,300 pounds.
A 757 can have a max take off weight of 255 THOUSAND pounds.
The energy of those 757s was incredible.
Let’s say 200,000 pounds at 300 miles an hour.
The wings disintegrated into atoms. By the way the Pentagon was reinforced to stop ordinary cruise missiles, years ago. It was a hard target, not a glass tower.
Can somebody clever with math calculate the foot pounds of energy?
27 Jul 2023 6:09 pm
Z09 » 27 Jul 2023, 6:05 pm » wrote: ↑ You're assuming the plane crashed in a stationary position...
Have you asked yourself what happened to the plane that so many people saw only a few seconds earlier?
Why no testimony from witnesses claiming the plane flew away....?
I already addressed that. Look...there is a very easy way to bury me on this issue. I am not asking for a lot. I am just asking to see some of the plane parts on that day. They have dozens and dozens of pics everywhere a few days after. There are pics that Kobia showed that pose no indication they were from the pentagon. But on that day, after the incident...where is the plane?
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
27 Jul 2023 7:27 pm
The third plane weighed around 200,000 pounds flying at hundreds of miles an hour.Vegas » 27 Jul 2023, 6:09 pm » wrote: ↑ I already addressed that. Look...there is a very easy way to bury me on this issue. I am not asking for a lot. I am just asking to see some of the plane parts on that day. They have dozens and dozens of pics everywhere a few days after. There are pics that Kobia showed that pose no indication they were from the pentagon. But on that day, after the incident...where is the plane?
What happened to the fourth plane that nosed in the ground in Pennsylvania?
It’s in atoms, utterly destroyed, from energy hard to imagine.
27 Jul 2023 8:02 pm
Aluminum airframes meeting reenforced concrete at high velocities don't leave much airframe... at least no big pieces of it.golfboy » 26 Jul 2023, 8:58 pm » wrote: ↑ My brother was assigned cleanup outside the Pentagon. He collected aircraft parts for the FAA.
I don't care what anyone claims. He was there. It was a plane, not a missile.
I imagine the debris would manly be melted rivets, nuts and bolts and small shards of aluminum.
https://youtu.be/F4CX-9lkRMQ
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27 Jul 2023 8:13 pm
27 Jul 2023 8:14 pm
27 Jul 2023 8:16 pm
Wheel hubs, pieces of engine... there are a lot of parts that were collected.RedheadedStranger » 27 Jul 2023, 8:02 pm » wrote: ↑ Aluminum airframes meeting reenforced concrete at high velocities don't leave much airframe... at least no big pieces of it.
I imagine the debris would manly be melted rivets, nuts and bolts and small shards of aluminum.
https://youtu.be/F4CX-9lkRMQ
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