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Jantje_Smit » 29 Jul 2023, 7:56 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 7:56 am

I don't know what's on the other side of the highway, more streetlights probably.. and I suspect those are still standing too...

But the plane wasn't coming in low and straight, the cruise missile was.. I hope you don't go along with the corrupted reality of the official propaganda..

Z....is my 2nd..........   
https://youtu.be/O6WD1yzQscE

Jantje_Smit » 29 Jul 2023, 7:56 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 7:56 am

I don't know what's on the other side of the highway, more streetlights probably.. and I suspect those are still standing too...

But the plane wasn't coming in low and straight, the cruise missile was.. I hope you don't go along with the corrupted reality of the official propaganda..

:blink:  
 

Stay on message, clown.

Z09 » 29 Jul 2023, 7:46 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 7:46 am

And you can send a cruise missile from a military base and no one would notice???? 

I told you more than once that it would have been during an exercise so of course plenty of people would notice.. and no one would miss a missile..

You can't be serious

I am serious, you are a friggin idiot..

 


 
 

Jantje_Smit » 29 Jul 2023, 7:56 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 7:56 am

I don't know what's on the other side of the highway, more streetlights probably.. and I suspect those are still standing too...

But the plane wasn't coming in low and straight, the cruise missile was.. I hope you don't go along with the corrupted reality of the official propaganda..

 
https://youtu.be/gc_LU8rZfCU

Jantje_Smit » 29 Jul 2023, 7:03 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 7:03 am

What others, those streetlights are right in front of the hole in the Pentagon, how did the plane miss them?

It's not a problem for a cruise missile though..

I knew I wouldn't have to make an effort..

See @Taipan  , I wasn't kidding..

 

Little one,
I run too fast.
I will blind you........with light.                
Light.
Z.......I need a good lawyer.       
 https://youtu.be/cxKUupk0kbY


 

Taipan » 29 Jul 2023, 8:06 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 8:06 am

Sweetheart,......Z.......is on my team.

Obviously... you are both totally clueless, I'm sure she will make you very happy... ask her about area51..

Z....is my 2nd.......... 

Did you tell the squatch *** that you dumped him, I would love to see him cry?

 

 
 

Taipan » 29 Jul 2023, 8:36 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 8:36 am

Little one,
I run too fast.
I will blind you........with light.                
Light.
Z.......I need a good lawyer.        :)
 https://youtu.be/cxKUupk0kbY


 

You are no Paul Newman nor a cool hand luke. Now, that George Kennedy role is more your speed.

Nostradamus'omh » 29 Jul 2023, 8:41 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 8:41 am

You are no Paul Newman nor a cool hand luke.

         
 

Nostradamus'omh » 29 Jul 2023, 8:13 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 8:13 am

Stay on message, clown.

Don't worry, it's pretty clear that I am right and the conspiracy deniers look like fools.. I just want to make sure you are on my team..

Sorry, I could resist that one..

 


 

Jantje_Smit » 29 Jul 2023, 8:40 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 8:40 am

Obviously... you are both totally clueless, I'm sure she will make you very happy... ask her about area51..

Did you tell the squatch *** that you dumped him, I would love to see him cry?

Sir,
I carry guns.
Plus 1,000rd......for each rifle.
I ride horses.
10......for  each man on the firing line.

I shoot .45-70.
My Capt., Skan-Dog is in charge of......Ammunition
I promise............he will have what he orders........
or..........someone will die.
I am not kidding.                
No,.......I am not kidding.                  

@Skans  
@Squatchman  
https://youtu.be/9Qvgbd9E_iE
 

Z09 » 29 Jul 2023, 9:04 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 9:04 am

Tell us..
This cruise missile...
Where was it sent from?

What with the 'us' stuff, you are the only one that doesn't get it?

ok, you're on a team now..and considering which team.. never mind...

You say it was from a military base and no one noticed????

No I said it was probably from a submarine and plenty of people noticed..

That's so dumb it's embarrassing

Nah, you are way beyond embarrassment.. I won't even try anymore, it's impossible..



 
 

Z09 » 29 Jul 2023, 5:35 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 5:35 am

What happened to the plane?

Simple question

A plane that is spotted flying low and there's numerous calls from the plane ....
Witnesses see the plane right near the Pentagon and then there's an explosion....
And the plane is gone...

Where did the plane go?

Show us a witness that said they saw the plane get back in control and flew away....

The plane did not fly to Area 51...
And a cruise missile did not hit the Pentagon from 1000 miles away as another poster claimed

Witnesses are full of ****. I don't take them seriously. Why do you keep bringing that up? Witnesses are not solid proof of anything. The towers had already been hit 30 minutes before. Everyone knew about it by then. Of course they were going to say it was a plane they saw.



 

Taipan » 29 Jul 2023, 8:58 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 8:58 am

I am not kidding.                
No,.......I am not kidding.                  
 

I know, that's the problem, you don't give me much to work with..

But instead of your usual crap about guns and horses, maybe you say something about planes and missiles.. or streetlights... that is the issue of the day.. again..

 


 

Z09 » 29 Jul 2023, 10:23 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 10:23 am

So all the witnesses that reported seeing an American Airlines plane flying low to the gorund and disappearing into the side of the Pentagon are not believeable...?

Why?

You say their "full of ****" but the fact is when dozens and dozens of witnesses with nothing to gain report the same things then I assume they are credible.

Why isn't there all these witnesses that say they saw a cruise missile?
Why wasn't a cruise missile headed to our nations capital ever reported?
What happened to the plane?

You can't answer any of those questions....

With this mentaility then you could say there's no evidence the Titanic ever sank

There were dead bodies floating, with their life jackets,  from the Titanic. Where are the bodies from the plane? The plane was vaporized.  Even if they found one finger that made it, somehow, they were able to get the DNA of all 64 passengers that were vaporized into atoms, like the plane. 

How do you know people didn't see a missile, but didn't come forward? 
 

Z09 » 29 Jul 2023, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 10:38 am

If there was a cruise missile why wouldn't someone step forward?

They found a hundred people that said it was a plane and it said "American Airlines" on it....
And then the plane disappeared after an explosion...

Eyewitness accounts are important.
And there's no one that came forward and said it WASN'T a plane...
It's pretty convincing actually...

If it were a missile then you'd have people all over the place saying it was a missile.
Everyone kept quiet?
Like everyone kept quiet on the submarine or military base that shot the missile?

Make no sense and the disapperance of the plane is really the final peice of evidence..

Why didn't anyone report this plane suddenly taking off into another direction?
Nobody reported it
And nobody reported a missile

I can't read people's minds. How should I know why people wouldn't come forward on anything? 

I have answered your questions, you just don't like the answers. You have yet to even make an effort to answer mine. 

Thus, until you make an effort, I won't answer yours any longer. O'tay?

Z09 » 29 Jul 2023, 10:23 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 10:23 am

You say their "full of ****" but the fact is when dozens and dozens of witnesses with nothing to gain report the same things then I assume they are credible.

Don't lie, they gained their 15 minutes of fame...

It hit some lampposts on the way in." Daryl Donley witnessed the crash and took some of the first photographs of the site.

Too bad he didn't take any pictures of the broken lampposts..
 
 



 
 

Z09 » 29 Jul 2023, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 10:46 am

Not quite sure what questions you've asked that haven't been answered....
For me to believe a missile hit the Pentagon Id like to know what happened to the plane then...

And that's when everyone goes silent

There was no plane. The witnesses are either lying or made up. 

Clearly you haven't been paying attention. Okay, ready? 

1. Per you, and the narrative, the plane was vaporized. By logic, the passengers had to have been vaporized along with it. How do you extract DNA from cremated bodies? Possible? Yes, but only in very rare cases...let alone 64 different times at once. 

2. Why are the street lights intact? They were right there next to the pentagon.

3. Where is the plane? I have explained what plane crashes look like. Not all pieces are vaporized. The tail and pieces of the wing, at the very least, would be visible outside somewhere...you ignored it. The hole was 75 feet wide. The wingspan of a Boeing 757 is 125 ft. So...no wings clipped anywhere? No markings on the wall where the wings hit? The hole was somewhere between 20 to 40 feet deep. The length of the plane was 155 feet. Yet, no plane was visible. 

4. Where is the plane?


Prediction: You will continue to bring up witnesses instead of answering. LOL

 

Jantje_Smit » 29 Jul 2023, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 10:26 am

I know, that's the problem, you don't give me much to work with..

But instead of your usual crap about guns and horses, maybe you say something about planes and missiles.. or streetlights... that is the issue of the day.. again..

 

We are keeping Custer.
Why ??
Because he had guts !!
(and guts is enough)..................  

https://youtu.be/tHxf17yJsKs

Vegas » 29 Jul 2023, 10:31 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 10:31 am

There were dead bodies floating, with their life jackets,  from the Titanic. Where are the bodies from the plane? The plane was vaporized.  Even if they found one finger that made it, somehow, they were able to get the DNA of all 64 passengers that were vaporized into atoms, like the plane. 

How do you know people didn't see a missile, but didn't come forward?

           You were already provided a source that detailed the participation & testimony of Dr. Robert Mann, Forensic Anthropologist (PHD) who was flown from Hickem Air Base in Hawaii to Dover Air Base in Delaware to help lead the effort of identifying the bone fragments, body parts and intermingles flesh of the victims brought from the Pentagon...

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/390 ... on-attack/
           Hawaii scientist helped bring closure to families of victims of 9/11 Pentagon attack  Five terrorists killed 184 people when they hijacked and crashed American Airlines flight 77 into the Pentagon on Sept.11, 2001.Forensic anthropologist Robert Mann dealt with the aftermath."You never forget it and I don't want to go through it again," he said.Mann was working at the Central Identification Laboratory at Hickam Air Force Base when he and a small team of anthropologists were summoned to Dover Air Force Base, the site of a makeshift mortuary.

    "As soon as we get to the mortuary we can smell decomposition. We can smell jet fuel. It's like part of the Pentagon had been moved to Delaware," he said.For eight days, Mann and other scientists examined human remains from victims who could not be easily identified."We're dealing with body parts, fragments, a finger, a hand or arm, a foot, anything, anything that can come off the body," he said.He remembers seeing wedding rings on severed hands and watches on wrists, and tables covered with the victims' belongings.
   
Another  renowned Forensic Anthropologist Dr. Douglas W. Owsley (PHD) also worked & helped identify Flight 77 & Pentagon victims through DNA.. 
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_W._Owsley

1. Witnesses saw Flight 77 take off from Dulles International Airport in NJ at 8:20am
2. At least 87 Witnesses saw a Commercial Airline strike the Pentagon at 9:37am
3. Not a single witness saw a Missile being launched.
4. Not a single Witness saw a Missile Strike the Pentagon...
5. A Boeing 757 and a Cruise Missile both travel at approximately 550 MPH...  One is clearly seen --- the other is not?

 
 

Kobia2 » 29 Jul 2023, 10:11 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 10:11 pm

           You were already provided a source that detailed the participation & testimony of Dr. Robert Mann, Forensic Anthropologist (PHD) who was flown from Hickem Air Base in Hawaii to Dover Air Base in Delaware to help lead the effort of identifying the bone fragments, body parts and intermingles flesh of the victims brought from the Pentagon...

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/390 ... on-attack/
           Hawaii scientist helped bring closure to families of victims of 9/11 Pentagon attack  Five terrorists killed 184 people when they hijacked and crashed American Airlines flight 77 into the Pentagon on Sept.11, 2001.Forensic anthropologist Robert Mann dealt with the aftermath."You never forget it and I don't want to go through it again," he said.Mann was working at the Central Identification Laboratory at Hickam Air Force Base when he and a small team of anthropologists were summoned to Dover Air Force Base, the site of a makeshift mortuary.

    "As soon as we get to the mortuary we can smell decomposition. We can smell jet fuel. It's like part of the Pentagon had been moved to Delaware," he said.For eight days, Mann and other scientists examined human remains from victims who could not be easily identified."We're dealing with body parts, fragments, a finger, a hand or arm, a foot, anything, anything that can come off the body," he said.He remembers seeing wedding rings on severed hands and watches on wrists, and tables covered with the victims' belongings.
   
Another  renowned Forensic Anthropologist Dr. Douglas W. Owsley (PHD) also worked & helped identify Flight 77 & Pentagon victims through DNA.. 
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_W._Owsley

1. Witnesses saw Flight 77 take off from Dulles International Airport in NJ at 8:20am
2. At least 87 Witnesses saw a Commercial Airline strike the Pentagon at 9:37am
3. Not a single witness saw a Missile being launched.
4. Not a single Witness saw a Missile Strike the Pentagon...
5. A Boeing 757 and a Cruise Missile both travel at approximately 550 MPH...  One is clearly seen --- the other is not?

All of this, including the forensic doctor, are testimonies. 1 through 5 ^^^, all testimonies. Easily manipulated or fabricated. But you can't manipulate physics. Regardless of all these testimonies, there is still no plane at the pentagon. Where is it? I already went over why those pics you showed are inconclusive, it doesn't show them at the pentagon. The photo of that one piece in the lawn was not taken within minutes of the crash. Probably more like an hour. There was only smoke the crew was putting out, the fire was gone (not to mention that piece looked like it was washed and waxed quite nicely., but I won't go there.).



The wingspan of a Boeing 757 is 125 ft. The width of the pentagon hole was 75 ft. 
The length of a Boeing 757 is 155 ft. The depth of the hole was around 40 feet. 

The plane obviously came from an angle of elevation. This means when it crashed, it would have had to penetrate the ground inside the hole 40 ft in. However, that didn't happen. It was like the plane went in horizontally, which is impossible. Even if, for the sake of argument, we go with the theory that the plane was vaporized into practically nothing, the wings would have had to have been clipped off upon entry. Some of those pieces would be laying around the grass somewhere.