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Z09 » 30 Jul 2023, 7:22 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 7:22 pm

Just wondering...
If there were no passengers and no flight...

....Why would they disassemble a plane?

They needed a scapegoat. They couldn't let people think it was a missile. 

Kobia2 » 30 Jul 2023, 7:17 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 7:17 pm

           Actually, 
the source of this information would have come from people aboard Flight 77 who placed the 3 sky phone calls --- 2 from Author Barbara Olson to her Husband, and the other by Flight Attendant Renee May ( I was incorrect that her last name was Ong who was on Flight 11) who called her mother and had her in turn call authorities... Sources also include American Airlines as an entity, Workers and Air Traffic Controllers at Dulles International Airport VA, and all the non Government affiliated civilians who witnessed  a commercial Airplane strike the Pentagon..... I prefer and reference this over any untrustworthy government prepared presentation of the events.

           

Again, all reported from the government. When it comes to lying, our government is actually quite impressive at it. I watched some documentaries about how our government has infiltrated crime organizations such as the cartels and different governments around the world. What shocked me the most is how often they used the  civilians (in other countries) to carry out their missions. Hundreds at a time. It was always the most inconspicuous way to get their plans to come through.  

Vegas » 30 Jul 2023, 11:02 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 11:02 pm

They needed a scapegoat. They couldn't let people think it was a missile.

How about Flight 93, the passengers resisted the rag heads.  Was that real?

Bruce » 30 Jul 2023, 11:12 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 11:12 pm

How about Flight 93, the passengers resisted the rag heads.  Was that real?

My theory is that the autopilot on flight 93, and the two that hit the towers, were hacked and locked. The pilots couldn't do anything. Everything started off normal, like every other flight. Then autopilot locked them out and the coordinates were preprogrammed. Perhaps the pilots heard what was going on since the other two planes had hit the towers already, and they were able to down the plane. That is still a mystery to me. However, there were never any ragheaded goat **** hijackers.  

Vegas » 30 Jul 2023, 11:22 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 11:22 pm

My theory is that the autopilot on flight 93, and the two that hit the towers, were hacked and locked. The pilots couldn't do anything. Everything started off normal, like every other flight. Then autopilot locked them out and the coordinates were preprogrammed. Perhaps the pilots heard what was going on since the other two planes had hit the towers already, and they were able to down the plane. That is still a mystery to me. However, there were never any ragheaded goat **** hijackers.

Wow.

So the Deep State, killed three planes full of real passengers, but no rag heads, flew two into towers, which had pre set charges, plus charges in WTC 7, disappeared one plane but no passengers or crew or rag heads,  flew 93 into the ground and used a top secret enormous cruise missile to attack the Pentagon?

And the motive was to invade the camel jockeys in the Middle East?

Am I warm ?

Bruce » 30 Jul 2023, 11:33 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 11:33 pm

Wow.

So the Deep State, killed three planes full of real passengers, but no rag heads, flew two into towers, which had pre set charges, plus charges in WTC 7, disappeared one plane but no passengers or crew or rag heads,  flew 93 into the ground and used a top secret enormous cruise missile to attack the Pentagon?

And the motive was to invade the camel jockeys in the Middle East?

Am I warm ?

Yeah...I guess that about sums it up. 

Vegas » 30 Jul 2023, 11:35 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 11:35 pm

Yeah...I guess that about sums it up.

Question.

I’m a super diabolical deep state agent.

I came up with an evil plan to murder three jet liners full of passengers, but instead of adding one more plane to hit the Pentagon I waste a perfectly good giant secret cruise missile.

I mean, I can hijack planes by remote control.

But that huge cruise missile will need a crew, and it might get tracked on radar, and somebody might catch it on tape like they did the plane that hit the South Tower.

Why not hijack a fourth plane?

Bruce » 30 Jul 2023, 11:57 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 11:57 pm

Question.

I’m a super diabolical deep state agent.

I came up with an evil plan to murder three jet liners full of passengers, but instead of adding one more plane to hit the Pentagon I waste a perfectly good giant secret cruise missile.

I mean, I can hijack planes by remote control.

But that huge cruise missile will need a crew, and it might get tracked on radar, and somebody might catch it on tape like they did the plane that hit the South Tower.

Why not hijack a fourth plane?

None of the planes were hijacked. There were no sheep ****. 
The towers were an easy target. They are high in the air. A building on the ground is much more difficult to hit by a plane. Precision and accuracy is paramount. The crew for the missile is the government...who are in on it, so whatever. Same with the radar. I don't claim to know where the missile was launched from. However, I don't see why it couldn't be launched within a couple miles. Who would see it? 

Also, I had entertained the theory about a UAV. The Navy was experimenting quite a bit in UAVs from 1995 to 2003. They had them much longer, but they were forking a lot of money and resources into building more powerful ones. Using one of those, with explosives, would explain the smaller hole and no parts anywhere, since UAVs, unlike a Boeing 757, are much more brittle. Nobody would suspect a UAV flying around. I don't know though, because they only carry about 800 gallons of fuel.  It's just a thought. 

Vegas » 31 Jul 2023, 12:14 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 12:14 am

None of the planes were hijacked. There were no sheep ****. 
The towers were an easy target. They are high in the air. A building on the ground is much more difficult to hit by a plane. Precision and accuracy is paramount. The crew for the missile is the government...who are in on it, so whatever. Same with the radar. I don't claim to know where the missile was launched from. However, I don't see why it couldn't be launched within a couple miles. Who would see it? 

Also, I had entertained the theory about a UAV. The Navy was experimenting quite a bit in UAVs from 1995 to 2003. They had them much longer, but they were forking a lot of money and resources into building more powerful ones. Using one of those, with explosives, would explain the smaller hole and no parts anywhere, since UAVs, unlike a Boeing 757, are much more brittle. Nobody would suspect a UAV flying around. I don't know though, because they only carry about 800 gallons of fuel.  It's just a thought.

I’m a super diabolical deep state agent.’

I let three planes take off, and then I take over the controls.  I need no camel jockeys.

I use my evil secret remote control technology to bring down two towers, plus I crash one plane in the ground because Dick Cheney vectored fighters on me, damn you Dick Cheney.  Or maybe I planned crashing 93, I’m an evil bastard.


But it would be much simpler to just fly 77 into the Pentagon than **** around with secret giant cruise missiles, would it not? 

Jantje_Smit » 29 Jul 2023, 8:46 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jul 2023, 8:46 am

Don't worry, it's pretty clear that I am right and the conspiracy deniers look like fools.. I just want to make sure you are on my team..

Sorry, I could resist that one..

:faint:  


 

Instinctive brain navigates the ever changing total sum situation. Intellectual social mind works to control time adapting in the moment here. Half right is still 99% inaccurate about anything specifically occupying the moment here kinetically displaced.

Your contextual soul of character projection is based on historical social consensus, not actual ancestral time left adapting in space now.

Difference between never existed, evolving as one of a kind, never duplicating what one is left adapting in space now. Eternal separation in a universal common since conceived environment.

Perpetual motion exists between contracting combinations and expanding details never duplicated again. Time is duration of living in a form never same total sum since conceived until decomposed after death inverts the evolving forward progress a lifetime had from its origin.

Life is that simple as rule of 72 compounding interest between how did, what is doing, which continues doing it. "It" being adapting to space now spontaneously one of a kind simultaneously evolving as everything else beyond one's displaced position.

Common matter regardless inorganic or ancestral, periodic table. Your mind rejects your own brain since society poisoned the well of existing in plain sight with reasonable doubt.

Majik » 30 Jul 2023, 9:59 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 9:59 pm

What does"East Coast Haze" mean to you ?
which is how O'Brien described the bad visibility that day when he could not say for certain which company logo was on the plane and guessed based on what he decribed as a silver fuselage. ....

        He said he saw a 757 or 767 ..... He saw a Red Stripe going down the Fuselage (these colors identify an Airlines Company, which in this case would be American Airlines).... He saw the Plane make a harding banking maneuver as it began to change direction into its descent.... He would have noticed the absence of wings if there wasn't any.. Afterwards as the Plane was close to the Ground... Witnesses on the ground also saw what they described as the Plane making  additional tipping moves back and forth before leveling out ... 

        Not a soul saw what they described as a Missile flying towards or hitting the Pentagon that day...  Keep in mind while a Cruise Missile such as a Tomahawk travels at around the same speed as a Boeing 757 (500 mph ) this Missile has a length of between 16-20 feet, with a 8.5 ft Wingspan.... A Boeing 757 is 155 feet long with a 125 ft Wingspan. 

        Here is a link to a Site that has a list of the Missiles in the US Arsenal, complete with Photos of each.... Tell me which of them you believe was mistaken for a Boeing 757 described by Witnesses.. When doing so, take into consideration the Length, Wingspan and Speed it travels -- if it even has any Wings....  

          https://military-history.fandom.com/wik ... s_military

         

golfboy » 30 Jul 2023, 9:45 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 9:45 pm

On shore and off shore infiltrators. 
And now Joe has opened the borders, and just let them all in. 

Have you heard about all the Chinese military aged men crossing our border right now?
No, I'll bet you haven't heard a word on any of your liberal "news" outlets. 
Thousands of Chinese illegally entering US at southern border

Tell us all about it .............. your source is fake news ........

Most immigrants are coming to work, make money, pay taxes make a better life for them and their families. BECAUSE communist, fascist dictators suck.

BTW USA employers need workers by the millions so let's put the immigrants to work so USA employers can 
offer superior customer service = shop locally = less online!!!!!
 

Kobia2 » 30 Jul 2023, 10:19 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 10:19 am

         You cannot be serious...... LMAO

Why not?

Did you actually watch the video of Taxi driver Lloyd England describe what happened (see my post #648)....

I did, he certainly got his 15 minutes of fame...

Other witnesses saw the Street Light Post get knocked down by the Plane and land on his Taxi LOL.... But you are easily ready to dismiss the physical & eyewitness evidence here to embrace an additional conspiracy theory that a Taxi was planted on the scene --- smashed with bats --- a large Street Light Post was either planted on the scene as well, or was taken down by unknown entities & unknown means while every person there that day had their backs turned--- and the driver of the Taxi Mr. England is also complicit in the Pentagon attack?

You ignore my point that it doesn't make sense for the lamppost to be ripped completely out of the ground and thrown on the road (and the taxi supposedly) when the top has been cleanly cut (of)...

        Keep in mind, Lloyd England was not a private or independent Taxi Driver.... He worked for Capitol Cab company, and was driving car #677 that day..... So now you need to tell us if Capitol Cab Company are also complicit in the Pentagon attack, or were they just completely unaware that one of their Cabs (or a replica) with the Company Logo on the door & Taxi Light on the roof was also hijacked and driven to the crash scene at the Pentagon... 

The cab company isn't complicit, just Lloyd... he let them use his taxi (ok the taxi he drove today) when they made him an offer he couldn't refuse.. who knows what they told him, I doubt they told him it was for a coverup of the cruise missile, maybe to get a cool picture that no else had so they could sell it to the media for a lot of $$$ and he would get half...


 
 

 
 

Truth for Cuckies...Cuckies hate truth.

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Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 10:55 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 10:55 am

So now you're saying that witnesses were paid?

Not all witnesses.

The 9/11 conspiracy believers think

1.  There were no rag heads. Those were all made up.

2.  Four planes took off that morning.  The deep state by remote control took over the controls of three planes.  Those hit both towers, and 93 flew in the ground.  Those are all real.

3.  Flight 77 disappeared without passengers. All faked.

4.  A super giant cruise missile hit the Pentagon.

How many people will buy that story?

WASH DC murdered

one million Iraqis - FOR OIL...

While Cuckies argue for 40 pages

about airplane parts, mostly trivial cuckiness

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 11:11 am

I think it's the second dumbest thing I ever heard...

....Right next to Biden saying.."I had no idea what my son was doing in China"...

But Biden didn’t claim Hunter going to China was faked.

Back to 9/11.

Two things were in fact odd about 9/11.

The oddest thing was three skyscrapers pan caking down like they had demo charges.

But me and you and most of the world now know why.

Those were steel and glass towers.  Compromise the steel with heat and down they all went, in a heap.

So the conspiracy believers still believe in demo charges set by the evil deep state.  Since rag heads are unreliable camel jockeys (which is usually true, but not that day) the conspiracy believers commandeer three real planes full of real people by secret remote control.

Diabolical super villain deep state agents by remote control took over the controls, and hit the towers, and for some reason flew 93 into the ground.

There was one other odd thing.

In all world history, no nation had ever shot a 200,000 pound 150 inch projectile at 777 feet per second into a hardened target.  There was no actual footage of Flight 77.

So they use a secret deep state cruise missile, instead of a plane.

They gotta dispose of the extra plane, you know?
 

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 10:55 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 10:55 am

So now you're saying that witnesses were paid?

          This link is to a Site that lists the Missiles in our US Arsenal..... It has photos of each.... I am asking the people in this discussion who believe a Missile hit the Pentagon ( and knocked down the 5 Street Light Posts before doing so ) to tell us which one of them they believe all the Eyewitnesses mistook for a 155 ft Long Boeing 757 Aircraft with a 125 ft Wingspan... Leaping lunatics LOL    

           https://military-history.fandom.com/wik ... s_military

 
       
    

Kobia2 » 31 Jul 2023, 12:03 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 12:03 pm

          This link is to a Site that lists the Missiles in our US Arsenal..... It has photos of each.... I am asking the people in this discussion who believe a Missile hit the Pentagon ( and knocked down the 5 Street Light Posts before doing so ) to tell us which one of them they believe all the Eyewitnesses mistook for a 155 ft Long Boeing 757 Aircraft with a 125 ft Wingspan... Leaping lunatics LOL    

           https://military-history.fandom.com/wik ... s_military

 

The conspiracy believers all know, that no cruise missile in the entire world in 2001 could have been powerful enough to cause the damage.  Cruise missiles are the size of Cadillacs and Buicks.

The Pentagon had been recently hardened against all known cruise missiles.

So they invent one about the weight and size of a 757.


 

It led to $$$TRILLIONS made by the war complex

Cuckies hate to hear that

CUCK A ROOSSSSS