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Bruce » 31 Jul 2023, 12:15 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 12:15 pm

The conspiracy believers all know, that no cruise missile in the entire world in 2001 could have been powerful enough to cause the damage.  Cruise missiles are the size of Cadillacs and Buicks.

The Pentagon had been recently hardened against all known cruise missiles.

So they invent one about the weight and size of a 757.

        True.... The interior steel supports had been wrapped & reinforced with a Geotechnical Construction Mesh .... 
Cruise Missiles such as the Tomahawk are 16 ft long with an 8.5 ft wingspan....

        I suspect the next theory we'll be hearing will be a concession of sorts.... The Insider Jobbers will concede there was an American Airlines 757 flying at the Pentagon ---- but that the Plane fired a Tomahawk Missile that struck the building, before veering off and returning to the Mothership.  
 

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 12:38 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 12:38 pm

Can you believe the latest thought is the original plane was disassembled?
And no questioned why?

And the passengers and families weren't real?

Hey, the deep state has extraordinary evil powers.

In 1963 they put an extra shooter on the grassy knoll.

Oswald didn’t get away, but the other guy did. 

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 12:38 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 12:38 pm

Can you believe the latest thought is the original plane was disassembled?
And no questioned why?

And the passengers and families weren't real?

          I think by the time they are done slinging Conspiracy Theories regarding the Pentagon on 9/11, half the country will be implicated in the attack & coverup... Over the years, I've heard some Theories which on the surface seemed plausible ---- other that would qualify someone for a lengthy psychiatric hiatus... 

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 12:56 pm

I don't agree with that at all

The only mystery is

Did the first or last shot Oswald fired miss?

I lean towards the last shot missing.

But there was a street light standard, and perhaps the first shot glanced off.


http://www.kbrhorse.net/signals/eagle03a.html

Now, there is an extreme minority position 


What if when Oswald picked up his rifle the night before from Mrs Paine’s garage it had one empty in the chamber?

Oswald puts it together and he pushes that empty down with two live rounds.

Bang - magic bullet - Connelly and Kennedy 

Bang - head shot

He reflexively cycled the bolt

It was found with one empty in the chamber 

I see a new thread  :LOL:   

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 2:03 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 2:03 pm

Oswald shot Kennedy
Case closed

https://abc7news.com/jfk-assassination- ... /11270728/

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 2:03 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 2:03 pm

Oswald shot Kennedy
Case closed

You’d best know about it.

It’s not closed.  60% of Americans think there was a shooter on te grassy knoll 
—-
2017
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna815371
What’s behind the public’s obsession with the assassination of the nation’s 35th president? Most Americans doubt they know the real story of what happened on November 22, 1963. More than 60 percent believe gunman Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone – and they’ve been skeptical from the beginning.
—-

By the way, if there was another shooter (which is bull ****) the only place he could have been, was the grassy knoll.

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 2:40 pm

There's tons of books and movies about the killing...

I just feel after 60 years they could crack the case...
And they can't

Oswald

https://youtu.be/LvgT4rvQH1g

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 3:16 pm

Before Earl Ruby died he went to his brother Jack and asked if he was part of any conspiracy.

Jack Ruby said he was not.
He acted out of impulse and thought he'd be a hero

at that time people wanted to see oswald on trial and humiliated.

after he was shot people said he was silenced.

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 5:29 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 5:29 am

They couldn't let people think it was a missile...

So they disassembled a plane that never left the ground?

Sorry Vegas...
Your theory is just dumb in my opinion...

What happened to all those people that went to the airport that day...
You already stated...
They didn't exist?

The flight never existed. There was no plane. Proof? Sure, it's not a the pentagon where it's said to be. That's your proof. See how easy that is. 

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 5:22 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 5:22 am

So tell us...

What happened to the guy the next town over from me who left for airport that day and got on a flight to Los Angeles?

Are you saying there were no pilots on that flight?

Who are you talking about? 

Bruce » 31 Jul 2023, 12:28 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 12:28 am

But it would be much simpler to just fly 77 into the Pentagon than **** around with secret giant cruise missiles, would it not?

I already said no, because the target would be too difficult. It was on the ground. Precision was required. 

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 3:16 pm

Before Earl Ruby died he went to his brother Jack and asked if he was part of any conspiracy.

Jack Ruby said he was not.
He acted out of impulse and thought he'd be a hero

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https://www.history.co.uk/article/did-t ... s-they-did

Document 32149267 seems to directly contradict the findings of the Warren Commission with regards to Jack Ruby. The document places Ruby at the scene of JFK’s assassination and not five blocks away, it states:“Recently…a Group Manager in the Dallas Intelligence Division, received information from a confidential informant that might be helpful in the investigation of the Kennedy assassination. The informant stated that on the morning of the assassination, Ruby contacted him and asked if he would ‘like to watch the fireworks.’ He was with Jack Ruby and standing at the corner of the Postal Annex Building facing the Texas School Book Depository Building, at the time of the shooting.”The informant is named as Bob Vanderslice who relayed this information to his FBI handlers in 1977. It doesn’t state why it took 14 years for this information to come to light but the file goes on to say that as soon as the shooting had occurred, Ruby turned and headed for the Dallas Morning News Building without saying a single word to Vanderslice.
 

            I think Oswald made the shot..... But wouldn't be surprised if additional players were involved in the planning or logistics.... 

Kobia2 » 31 Jul 2023, 4:09 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 4:09 pm

            I think Oswald made the shot..... But wouldn't be surprised if additional players were involved in the planning or logistics.... 

Probably Marilyn Monroe. Maybe he had a small dick and she was pissed off about that. 

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 4:11 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 4:11 pm

You mentioned there were no passengers on the plane...
And no families
And the plane was disassembled...

What actually happened to these people that disappeared?

Yes. And? Also, have you been able to produce that plane at the crash site yet? 

Bruce » 31 Jul 2023, 12:50 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 12:50 pm

Hey, the deep state has extraordinary evil powers.

In 1963 they put an extra shooter on the grassy knoll.

Oswald didn’t get away, but the other guy did.:) 

Another mind protecting reasonable doubt. Freedom to believe life isn't self evident made each character of humanity prisoner of their own faith by honoring ideas rather than adapting to space only timed apart here since conceived to dead in living form, dead to decomposed either leaving ancestors carrying their DNA or not.

the specific time, placement, individual lived or living since inception. No exemptions by ideology or exceptions by laws ordering next generations to comply with last 5 generations governing how people live cradle to grave now.

Now includes past ending here, adapting to the moment since conceived, future for each great great grandchild born one at a time.

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 4:51 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 4:51 pm

Yes...
There's plane debris...that even Congress saw...
87 witnesses that documented what they saw
Phone calls from the plane..

And then a crash and we never hear from these people again

Not at the pentagon.

Vegas » 31 Jul 2023, 4:12 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 4:12 pm

Probably Marilyn Monroe. Maybe he had a small dick and she was pissed off about that.

           Oswald's Pecker might not have been long ---- but the list of high profile Peckers that allegedly made their way into Marlyn certainly was....
 Some of them of them  included President JFK -- Attorney General RFK (little brother Teddy was probably **** hammered and passed out before getting his crack at it)-- Chicago Mob Boss Sam Giancana -- Marlon Brando -- Frank Sinatra -- Jerry Lewis -- and of course Joe Dimaggio ..

           
 

Kobia2 » 01 Aug 2023, 8:26 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 8:26 am

           Oswald's Pecker might not have been long ---- but the list of high profile Peckers that allegedly made their way into Marlyn certainly was....
 Some of them of them  included President JFK -- Attorney General RFK (little brother Teddy was probably **** hammered and passed out before getting his crack at it)-- Chicago Mob Boss Sam Giancana -- Marlon Brando -- Frank Sinatra -- Jerry Lewis -- and of course Joe Dimaggio ..

           

Don't forget Hefner.