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Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 5:29 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 5:29 am

They couldn't let people think it was a missile...

So they disassembled a plane that never left the ground?

Sorry Vegas...
Your theory is just dumb in my opinion...

What happened to all those people that went to the airport that day...
You already stated...
They didn't exist?

The flight never existed. There was no plane. Proof? Sure, it's not a the pentagon where it's said to be. That's your proof. See how easy that is. 

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 5:22 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 5:22 am

So tell us...

What happened to the guy the next town over from me who left for airport that day and got on a flight to Los Angeles?

Are you saying there were no pilots on that flight?

Who are you talking about? 

Bruce » 31 Jul 2023, 12:28 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 12:28 am

But it would be much simpler to just fly 77 into the Pentagon than **** around with secret giant cruise missiles, would it not?

I already said no, because the target would be too difficult. It was on the ground. Precision was required. 

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 3:16 pm

Before Earl Ruby died he went to his brother Jack and asked if he was part of any conspiracy.

Jack Ruby said he was not.
He acted out of impulse and thought he'd be a hero

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https://www.history.co.uk/article/did-t ... s-they-did

Document 32149267 seems to directly contradict the findings of the Warren Commission with regards to Jack Ruby. The document places Ruby at the scene of JFK’s assassination and not five blocks away, it states:“Recently…a Group Manager in the Dallas Intelligence Division, received information from a confidential informant that might be helpful in the investigation of the Kennedy assassination. The informant stated that on the morning of the assassination, Ruby contacted him and asked if he would ‘like to watch the fireworks.’ He was with Jack Ruby and standing at the corner of the Postal Annex Building facing the Texas School Book Depository Building, at the time of the shooting.”The informant is named as Bob Vanderslice who relayed this information to his FBI handlers in 1977. It doesn’t state why it took 14 years for this information to come to light but the file goes on to say that as soon as the shooting had occurred, Ruby turned and headed for the Dallas Morning News Building without saying a single word to Vanderslice.
 

            I think Oswald made the shot..... But wouldn't be surprised if additional players were involved in the planning or logistics.... 

Kobia2 » 31 Jul 2023, 4:09 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 4:09 pm

            I think Oswald made the shot..... But wouldn't be surprised if additional players were involved in the planning or logistics.... 

Probably Marilyn Monroe. Maybe he had a small dick and she was pissed off about that. 

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 4:11 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 4:11 pm

You mentioned there were no passengers on the plane...
And no families
And the plane was disassembled...

What actually happened to these people that disappeared?

Yes. And? Also, have you been able to produce that plane at the crash site yet? 

Bruce » 31 Jul 2023, 12:50 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 12:50 pm

Hey, the deep state has extraordinary evil powers.

In 1963 they put an extra shooter on the grassy knoll.

Oswald didn’t get away, but the other guy did.:) 

Another mind protecting reasonable doubt. Freedom to believe life isn't self evident made each character of humanity prisoner of their own faith by honoring ideas rather than adapting to space only timed apart here since conceived to dead in living form, dead to decomposed either leaving ancestors carrying their DNA or not.

the specific time, placement, individual lived or living since inception. No exemptions by ideology or exceptions by laws ordering next generations to comply with last 5 generations governing how people live cradle to grave now.

Now includes past ending here, adapting to the moment since conceived, future for each great great grandchild born one at a time.

Z09 » 31 Jul 2023, 4:51 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 4:51 pm

Yes...
There's plane debris...that even Congress saw...
87 witnesses that documented what they saw
Phone calls from the plane..

And then a crash and we never hear from these people again

Not at the pentagon.

Vegas » 31 Jul 2023, 4:12 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 4:12 pm

Probably Marilyn Monroe. Maybe he had a small dick and she was pissed off about that.

           Oswald's Pecker might not have been long ---- but the list of high profile Peckers that allegedly made their way into Marlyn certainly was....
 Some of them of them  included President JFK -- Attorney General RFK (little brother Teddy was probably **** hammered and passed out before getting his crack at it)-- Chicago Mob Boss Sam Giancana -- Marlon Brando -- Frank Sinatra -- Jerry Lewis -- and of course Joe Dimaggio ..

           
 

Kobia2 » 01 Aug 2023, 8:26 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 8:26 am

           Oswald's Pecker might not have been long ---- but the list of high profile Peckers that allegedly made their way into Marlyn certainly was....
 Some of them of them  included President JFK -- Attorney General RFK (little brother Teddy was probably **** hammered and passed out before getting his crack at it)-- Chicago Mob Boss Sam Giancana -- Marlon Brando -- Frank Sinatra -- Jerry Lewis -- and of course Joe Dimaggio ..

           

Don't forget Hefner. 

@Z09  so, I have answered all of your questions. How about you answer my simple straight forward question? 

Question: How exactly does a Boeing 757, with a wingspan of 125 feet fit in a hole 75 feet wide without even making a mark on the walls outside, nor leave behind even one piece of a wing? 



Prediction:
You will deflect to witnesses, airports, and passengers...yet, still leave my question unanswered. 

Vegas » 01 Aug 2023, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 10:04 am

Don't forget Hefner.

           Heff says he never met her... But it would surprise few if he was the lead-off hitter --- and Dimaggio batted cleanup. 

Kobia2 » 30 Jul 2023, 7:04 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 7:04 pm

  
               This is the same argument you used to try and discredit the Taxi driver Lloyd England -- claiming he and all the witnesses who saw American Airlines Boeing Flight 77 clip and knock down the lamp posts before impacting the Pentagon were mistake and didn't see that it was a Missile instead of an Airplane... You were wrong on that point as well.... Many if not most of the witnesses at the Pentagon who saw the Plane were civilians on the roadway running parallel to the site--- with no connection to to the government or military, as to be coerced or sworn to silence --- and from that day up to now not a single one has claimed it was a Missile and not an Aircraft. 

       
 
 

I thought that was me.. lol.. but that's an interesting picture, all the lampposts seem to be still standing, another deceptive angle?


 
 

Z09 » 01 Aug 2023, 10:43 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 10:43 am

Have you ever considered the wings were ripped off when the nose went forward and the building didn't move?
Ever see a car being destroyed because the tree didn't move.

Your theory is ridiculous...

 

Look at this...you give a ridiculous answer, then go right to your deflection in lightening speed. I erased all that ****, because you need to stop hiding. So, we are going to stick with this. 

Of course the wings would have been ripped off...so where the **** are they? Inside the hole?      No trace on the outside where they would have hit, but they definitely are hiding in the hole somewhere. LOL!

Z09 » 01 Aug 2023, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 11:40 am

Considering the damage and the fire do you think they might have been just melted away?


 

I am not addressing your deflections. No more of that ****! Veghead used to do that, it's a tactic he always used when he didn't know the answer. 


LOL! Melted? Ummmmmm....not according the physics of motion. No. Pieces of the wings and the tail would be visible on the lawn somewhere. They aren't. 

Z09 » 01 Aug 2023, 11:57 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 11:57 am

I refuse to answer the question because I have been boxed in.

Well...at least you admit it. 

      And another deflection. All you have to do is say that you don't know. That's it. 


When you feel like addressing the question, then come get me. Otherwise, stop clogging my thread. 

Z09 » 01 Aug 2023, 12:03 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 12:03 pm

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/videos/t ... gon-plane/

Remains recovered from the Pentagon were photographed, and turned over to the Armed Forces Medical Examiner office, located at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware. The medical examiner's office was able to identify remains belonging to 179 of the victims. Investigators eventually identified 184 of the.

According to the government ^^^ Where are the **** wings and tail? It was a Boeing 757, not some model airplane.

Z09 » 01 Aug 2023, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 12:05 pm

Footage from two Pentagon security cameras outside the building shows the American Airlines flight crashing into the Pentagon. The footage was released by the U.S. Department of Defense in 2006 after conservative government watchdog Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act request two years earlier, the Associated Press reported.

In describing the footage, the AP stated: “The aeroplane is a thin white blur on the video as it hits the Pentagon at ground level. Almost instantly, a white flash and a huge orange fireball appear on the video, followed by a tower of grey-black smoke.”

There are also multiple photographs of debris from the aircraft found at the Pentagon crash site, including images released by the FBI.

That's a lie. I only saw one...which was a blur of some white thing. 

Z09 » 01 Aug 2023, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 12:07 pm

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... rom-911-c/

 

 

Z09 » 01 Aug 2023, 12:08 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 12:08 pm

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-fbi ... entagon-18

 

Lie

and

Lie.