I have answered your questions. You have yet to answer mine. I won't proceed with you until stop hiding. It's shameful that you are taking on a BV tactic.Z09 » 02 Aug 2023, 10:35 am » wrote: ↑ I think you're wrong...
The problem I find with your explanation is it leads to more questions..
https://youtu.be/OHT0gH8O1PEVegas » 02 Aug 2023, 11:27 am » wrote: ↑Deflection again in 3...2...1...
- Hole = 75ft. Wingspan = 125ft
- No markings on the outside part of the hole where the wings hit.
- No pics of pieces of plane demonstrating they were from the pentagon.
- Rolls-Royce manufactures, the maker of the engine, did not identify the engine piece as theirs.
- One operational camera at 1 frame per second.
Z09 » 02 Aug 2023, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑ Do you have a link for your Rolls Royce claim?
I've never heard about that...
Aerospaceweb.org | Ask Us - Boeing 757 Engine Conspiracy TheoryAmerican Free Press contacted Pratt & Whitney and Rolls Royce, manufacturers of the 757's turbofan jet engines to try and identify the piece."If the aircraft that struck the Pentagon was a Boeing 757-200 owned by American Airlines, then it would have to be a Rolls Royce engine," Mark Sullivan, spokesman for Pratt & Whitney, told AFP.John W. Brown, spokesman for Rolls Royce (Indianapolis), had previously told AFP: "It is not a part from any Rolls Royce engine that I'm familiar with, and certainly not the AE 3007H made here in Indy."The AE 3007 engines are used in small commuter jets such as the Cessna Citation; the AE 3007H is also used in the military's unmanned aircraft, the Global Hawk. The Global Hawk is manufactured by Northrop Grumman's subsidiary Ryan Aeronautical, which it acquired from Teledyne, Inc. in July 1999.If the government version that an American Airlines 757-200 hit the Pentagon is accurate, then the object in the photo would have to be from a Rolls Royce RB211-535 turbofan engine.When AFP told Brown that it must be a piece of a Rolls Royce engine, Brown balked and asked who at Pratt & Whitney had provided the information.
"never aired again" is what it saysZ09 » 02 Aug 2023, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑ "the footage that was never aired again"
Not really true...
It was just updated throughout the day..
Reporters are there all day and give up dates
Z09 » 02 Aug 2023, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑ "the footage that was never aired again"
Not really true...
It was just updated throughout the day..
Reporters are there all day and give up dates
Z09 » 02 Aug 2023, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑ Here's the problem....
Your new smoking gun is the plane part...
You left out what Brown said TOTALLY..
You left out what Brown said....
He doesn't build engines.
He's a spokesman..
When AFP told Brown that it must be a piece of a Rolls Royce engine, Brown balked and asked who at Pratt & Whitney had provided the information.Asked again if the disc in the photo is a piece of a Rolls Royce RB211-535, or from the AE 3007 series, Brown said he could not answer.AFP then asked Brown if he was actually familiar with the parts of an AE 3007H, which is made at the Indiana plant: "No," Brown said. "I don't build the engines. I am a spokesman for the company. I speak for the company."
https://aerospaceweb.org/question/consp ... 265a.shtml
But if it flys in the face of all other reports, it should be, at least, reviewedZ09 » 02 Aug 2023, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑ Why would they air something at one point ...
...And not air it again?
Simple..
Because throughout the days there's updates and more information coming out..
Simply because you see something on TV at 11 AM but 3 PM there's much more news..
Unless of course if you have one reporter covering 20 different stories at the same time
Z09 » 02 Aug 2023, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑ You said Rolls Royce couldn't identify that part...
The problem is your being selective..
Brown is a company spokesman.
Not a mechanic and he admitted he didn't know what the part was..
Doesn't mean the part didn't come from a plane....
The first pictures of the hole, and the report of little debris were "wrong or incomplete " ?Z09 » 02 Aug 2023, 12:17 pm » wrote: ↑ Reviewed for what....
Many times the first reports are wrong and incomplete..
Maybe you can tell us...
What happened to the plane?
One poster said it flew to Area 51..
Another said it was disassembled even though there's footage of it flying away from the airport...
Thoughts?
passZ09 » 02 Aug 2023, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑ Do you think a plane hit the Pentagon or was it a cruise missile...?
Z09 » 02 Aug 2023, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑ Yes...
The quote was real..
But incomplete...
He went on to say he's not a mechanic just a spokesman..
That's very misleading by anyone that says that's a smoking gun...
"Rolls Royce says that isn't our plane part.."
Well.
Not exactly......
John W. Brown, spokesman for Rolls Royce (Indianapolis), had previously told AFP: "It is not a part from any Rolls Royce engine that I'm familiar with, and certainly not the AE 3007H made here in Indy."The AE 3007 engines are used in small commuter jets such as the Cessna Citation; the AE 3007H is also used in the military's unmanned aircraft, the Global Hawk. The Global Hawk is manufactured by Northrop Grumman's subsidiary Ryan Aeronautical, which it acquired from Teledyne, Inc. in July 1999.If the government version that an American Airlines 757-200 hit the Pentagon is accurate, then the object in the photo would have to be from a Rolls Royce RB211-535 turbofan engine.When AFP told Brown that it must be a piece of a Rolls Royce engine, Brown balked and asked who at Pratt & Whitney had provided the information.Asked again if the disc in the photo is a piece of a Rolls Royce RB211-535, or from the AE 3007 series, Brown said he could not answer.AFP then asked Brown if he was actually familiar with the parts of an AE 3007H, which is made at the Indiana plant: "No," Brown said. "I don't build the engines. I am a spokesman for the company. I speak for the company."
Z09 » 02 Aug 2023, 2:13 pm » wrote: ↑ Reaching...?
You give a link to a guy that says that part didn't come from any engine from Rolls Royce...
...
When in fact he said "I'm not a mechanic....I'm just the spoksman for the company"....
It has a total different meaning..
The quote you gave was incomplete to mislead people....That's what Loose Change the the author did...
It is a good thread. I am impressed. It hasn't even been pinned, like the Covid thread from George Washington, and the post count is approaching the same number. That thread has been up for months. This one for a couple weeks.Mrkelly » 02 Aug 2023, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑ T
this thread is a blast from the past
much less heated
the wounds aren't as fresh
Disciple of doubt ^^^^^^^^^ career oriented individual that loathes his equally timed apart body so much, he rather see this species go extinct, then love in his own skin equally occupying space now.Vegas » 02 Aug 2023, 2:15 pm » wrote: ↑ Yes, you are reaching.
So now we can't even believe spokespeople, huh? How do you think you got all of your information from?
Nostradamus'omh » 02 Aug 2023, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑ Disciple of doubt ^^^^^^^^^ career oriented individual that loathes his equally timed apart body so much, he rather see this species go extinct, then love in his own skin equally occupying space now.
Did you ever realize what bipolar disorder comes from? Your imagined self feels invincible following ideas anything else is possible and your brain navigates the one thing that never happens.
Is that supposed to anger me or disgrace yourself? I won't do things like that and you are willing to do things like that.