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Taipan » 14 Aug 2023, 8:02 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 8:02 pm

OK.........you win that point.
I withdraw my ......"*******" remark.
I apologize.
I stand corrected.

Latin ??

Let's just see if you talk firearms as well
as you know Latin,.....(smartass)...........                            


  

I like this video much more...    

https://twitter.com/i/status/1691065183223869440
 

Sumela » 14 Aug 2023, 8:10 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 8:10 pm

I like this video much more...    

https://twitter.com/i/status/1691065183223869440

LOL.........
My Tribe can whoop.............your tribe.
Wanna bet ? ?         
How much ??                             
https://youtu.be/dwjbUC9Btg8





 

golfboy » 14 Aug 2023, 8:02 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 8:02 pm

Show me.

Forward to the 1:26 mark. Most of those crashes (not all) either took a nose dive or crashed into a mountain. There is still large debris. Not just small chunks, but large pieces that are obviously from a plane. 

https://www.thequint.com/photos/in-phot ... f-aviation

Z09 » 14 Aug 2023, 8:08 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 8:08 pm

You're trying to convince us by claiming "you don't care"..

 

No *******. I am saying that the narrative that is told does not match up with the physical evidence. You insist on wanting to know that if the plane wasn't at the pentagon, then I am somehow obligated to know where the **** it went. I am not obligated. You are obligated to explain why it's not at the pentagon. Get it? This is your claim. Run away from your claim all you want, I will always bring you back to it. 


Prediction

You will continue to copy/paste the same **** about witnesses, or whatever, without addressing my questions.

Vegas » 14 Aug 2023, 8:33 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 8:33 pm

No *******. I am saying that the narrative that is told does not match up with the physical evidence. You insist on wanting to know that if the plane wasn't at the pentagon, then I am somehow obligated to know where the **** it went. I am not obligated. You are obligated to explain why it's not at the pentagon. Get it? This is your claim. Run away from your claim all you want, I will always bring you back to it. 

Prediction

You will continue to copy/paste the same **** about witnesses, or whatever, without addressing my questions.

Maybe that plane exploded.
Have you ever hit a 1gal. of water with a.30-30 hollow -point.?
I have.
The bullet does not shoot through & make a hole.
No.
It dumps all of its energy.  Kinetic energy......is hard to grasp.
The jug explodes.
Same thing with that jet.
Explosion.                         

Vegas » 14 Aug 2023, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 7:39 pm

@Z09  see this? This is what it's called an honest and intelligent response. It's okay to admit that you don't know something. It really is. All you have to do is admit that you don't know the answers to my question. That's all. Lower your ego. 

Yes, Taipan. I am saying it's an inside job. Way too many inconsistencies between the 9/11 commission report and physical evidence. It doesn't add up.

OK.
I am listening.
I am not there yet.

Inside job ??
OK...........try this.
JFK assassination.  
Lyndon Johnson & the CIA assassins.                 

Vegas » 14 Aug 2023, 8:30 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 8:30 pm

Forward to the 1:26 mark. Most of those crashes (not all) either took a nose dive or crashed into a mountain. There is still large debris. Not just small chunks, but large pieces that are obviously from a plane. 

https://www.thequint.com/photos/in-phot ... f-aviation

 

There is nothing there, that validates your claims. 
What was the airspeed of the plane, when it hit the ground?
Was it climbing when it hit the mountain?   Did it impact the ground at a perpendicular attitude while accelerating?
 

Vegas » 14 Aug 2023, 7:46 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 7:46 pm

Everybody has shown me pics of plane debris. There is no evidence that debris is the plane at the pentagon. It doesn't show that. It could be from anywhere from any plane crash. There is one piece of a debris on the lawn, which btw looks like it was cleaned, washed, and waxed. However, that pic was taken probably a good hour, maybe more, after the incident. Where is the tail and pieces of the wings? A Boeing 757 will still have some debris in the lawn, somewhere.

          You have repeatedly been shown photos of plane debris which was taken at the Pentagon.... You were also provided with sources as to whom took such photos and when they were taken....

         Just using the photos of CNN Journalist Jamie Mcintyre alone who was in the Pentagon Bldg. when Flight 77 struck is enough to prove that assertion 100% wrong... He left his office in the Bldg.went to where the plane impacted, and began taking pictures.... Again, this is his account & photos taken minutes after the Plane hit the Pentagon.. 

          Vegas... Please take the time to look at these photos again, click the link to Mcintyre's testimony as he explains exactly what he is photographing, and more in depth description of the Plane wreckage... He was clearly there, and being one of the first on the scene, there was no time for the FBI or anyone to scatter plane debris all over the scene. 

https://undicisettembre.blogspot.com/20 ... alist.html

          A Google search will also turn up a full version of my report in which you can see the full context of my report, and how it was deliberately distorted by mischief-makers whose motives are frankly unfathomable to me.
Whenever  I confront one of these conspiracy promoters, the result is the same: they simply conclude I must be lying, or that the government has “gotten to me” to change my story.
But I was there. I saw the thousands of pieces of the plane scattered over the heliport outside the Pentagon. I photographed pieces of the wreckage, photos you can see here.
As a journalist I understand why some people are willing to believe the worst about the government. Because sometimes the government does lie, and cover up.
    
             

            On the heliport thousands of tiny shards of airplane wreckage cover the ground, 9/11/01 — Photo by jamie McIntyre ©2001
 
          A piece of wreckage that appears to be a cockpit window — 9/11/01 — Photo by Jamie McIntyre ©2001
 
The picture I was arrested for taking. A Pentagon Police officer claimed I violated the ban on photography. — 9/11/10 — Photo by Jamie McIntyre ©2001

 
 
 

Vegas » 14 Aug 2023, 7:46 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 7:46 pm

Where is the tail and pieces of the wings? A Boeing 757 will still have some debris in the lawn, somewhere.

           This is a question I have seen you ask repeatedly.... 
 You seem convinced the Tail section of the plane should have remained intact after impact, and should explain what exactly you are basing this on.... 

           Again, people who saw the Plane impact the building, described how parts of the Plane appeared to disintegrate when it hit, then seemed to disappear inside the building... This was immediately (less than 1 second) followed by a massive explosion & fireball..... The fire raged and the E-Ring of the Building collapsed about 30 minutes later.... So accounting for the 530 Mph splintering impact -- huge explosion -- intense fire -- then being crushed & buried under a mountain of building debris, you shouldn't expect to find an intact Tail section of a Boeing 757. 

            
         
 
                 Remember, when this pic first emerged from the crash / impact site of Flight 93 in PA, there were was almost nothing recognizable above ground that would suggest a Commercial United Airlines Boeing 757 had crashed there.. 
                
             
 

Who made TRILLIONS

from this event....???

Seems a fair question

Vegas » 14 Aug 2023, 7:52 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 7:52 pm

Where it always would go. Wrecked into pieces somewhere. It's not hard to find 757 crashes and still see at least some of the tail and other pieces of the wreck around it. Google it. You will see pics everywhere.

                   These are photos of the Flight 93 United Airlines Boeing 757 crash site in Shanksville PA... Where's the Tail section>?

           
 

""""we need a new Pearl Harbor event""""


odd right??

MIC made TRILLIONS

after this event

qui bono???

Any honest investigator

would ask

who benefitted the most.....right???

Vegas » 14 Aug 2023, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 1:50 pm

You know what else doesn't seem to exist? Pics of an airplane hitting the pentagon from 80 cameras...one was fixed right above the crash.  :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  

Top down chain of command always seems to protect reasonable doubt rather than resolve self evident events. That need to know scenario of governance and rank gets privileges those sacrificing biological time cannot have morally, legally, ethically, following orders or face insubordination, treason, blasphemy from their own reality first.

Gee, wonder where my brain picked up on dictatorships or democracy silence instinctive awareness to living never exceeds mutually evolving here now genetics sustain eternal separation of each conception since inception of ancestral lineages still occupying time one at a time now?

Yes I am being extremely sarcastic and completely honest. Shame you aren't because the universe kinetically matches everything I described, no exemptions by theories or theologies suggesting now isn't eternity history has shown the meyhem, madness, misery induced in every society this species did onto itself.

the irony here I show it was an inside the species doing it to itself, job. History has recorded last 4 generation gaps corrupted their last arriving replacements to repeat their practices of ignoring now is Eternity.

The Original Sin And Final Conflict. Two sides. Male and female playing left and right wings each generation gap 16 dying great great grandparent generations trained their 8 great grandparent generation, educating their 4 grandparent generation, teaching 2 parenting generation to have their children defend history until extinction arrives pay it forward or else.


I just disproved the negative to reasonable doubts saving tomorrows each rotation of the planet genetics never duplicated an ancestor since inception of this species' ancestral lineages alive today.

Been doing it 17 years. dozen years on .org, decade on this one. What have you done but sustain corruption as usual.

Z09 » 15 Aug 2023, 5:38 am » wrote: ↑

15 Aug 2023, 5:38 am

If you're trying to convince everyone of your crazy idea that it was a missile then perhaps we'd be more convinced if you could tie up some loose ends....


 

First line. ^^^ Didn't answer my questions. Thus, I didn't read the reast of your copy/pasted garbage.

Kobia2 » 14 Aug 2023, 10:21 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 10:21 pm

                   These are photos of the Flight 93 United Airlines Boeing 757 crash site in Shanksville PA... Where's the Tail section>?

           

I was actually wondering about this as well. I don't see a plane there either. I see a burned hole. That is inconsistent with plane crashes. So, that's two missing planes now. I haven't looked into this one as much as the pentagon, but it certainly deserves it. 

Kobia2 » 14 Aug 2023, 10:09 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 10:09 pm

         

           Again, people who saw the Plane impact the building, described how parts of the Plane appeared to disintegrate when it hit, then seemed to disappear inside the building... This was immediately (less than 1 second) followed by a massive explosion & fireball..... The fire raged and the E-Ring of the Building collapsed about 30 minutes later.... So accounting for the 530 Mph splintering impact -- huge explosion -- intense fire -- then being crushed & buried under a mountain of building debris, you shouldn't expect to find an intact Tail section of a Boeing 757. 

            
         
 
                 
                
             

People who saw a plane exploding inside the pentagon were able to see the pieces disintegrate while it was happening, in less than a second? Highly doubtful. 

Kobia2 » 14 Aug 2023, 9:36 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 9:36 pm

          You have repeatedly been shown photos of plane debris which was taken at the Pentagon.... You were also provided with sources as to whom took such photos and when they were taken....

         

You keep saying this. It's getting an old Kobia. I have also repeatedly said, over and over, that those pieces were never shown to be at the pentagon. They could have been from anywhere. Please stop with that already. 

golfboy » 14 Aug 2023, 9:31 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 9:31 pm

There is nothing there, that validates your claims. 
What was the airspeed of the plane, when it hit the ground?
Was it climbing when it hit the mountain?   Did it impact the ground at a perpendicular attitude while accelerating?

Hitting mountains and taking nose dives doesn't validate my claims? Okay.