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WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - Donald Trump ordered employees at his Florida resort to delete security videos as he was under investigation for retaining classified documents, U.S. prosecutors said on Thursday as they broadened the case against the former president and charged a second member of his staff with helping to hide documents.

 U.S. Special Counsel Jack Smith filed three new criminal counts against Trump, bringing the total to 40, and charged a maintenance worker at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, Carlos De Oliveira, with conspiracy to obstruct justice, accusing him of helping Trump to hide documents.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-de ... 023-07-27/
—-Prosecutors allege that on June 25, 2022, the day after investigators had requested “[a]ny and all surveillance records, videos, images, photographs and/or CCTV from internal cameras” at certain locations at the Mar-a-Lago Club, de Oliveira met with a Mar-a-Lago IT employee, allegedly at Nauta’s direction. De Oliveira allegedly told the employee something to the effect of “the boss” wanting the server containing the security footage “deleted.” The employee replied that he would need to reach out to his supervisor. 
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Jack Smith has tapes of Carlos wheeling around documents after Trump was ordered to surrender them but by far the worst allegations against Carlos is he ordered Employee Number 3 to erase tapes AND WIPE A SERVER  CLEAN.  Carlos said The Boss ordered it.

Whoops.

Hillary Clinton had a server, years ago.

Bring popcorn. 

The documents case just got Watergate tapes exiting. 

 
 

Bruce » 27 Jul 2023, 8:31 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2023, 8:31 pm

WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - Donald Trump ordered employees at his Florida resort to delete security videos as he was under investigation for retaining classified documents, U.S. prosecutors said on Thursday as they broadened the case against the former president and charged a second member of his staff with helping to hide documents.
 U.S. Special Counsel Jack Smith filed three new criminal counts against Trump, bringing the total to 40, and charged a maintenance worker at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, Carlos De Oliveira, with conspiracy to obstruct justice, accusing him of helping Trump to hide documents.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-de ... 023-07-27/
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Jack Smith has tapes of Carlos wheeling around documents after Trump was ordered to surrender them but by far the worst allegations against Carlos is he ordered Employee Number 3 to erase tapes AND WIPE A SERVER  CLEAN.  Carlos said The Boss ordered it.

Whoops.

Hillary Clinton had a server, years ago.

Bring popcorn. 

The documents case just got Watergate tapes exiting.

 

Isn't it odd now every time the news is going bad for Biden, this "special counsel" takes some kind of action to change the narrative?

Bruce » 27 Jul 2023, 8:31 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2023, 8:31 pm

WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - Donald Trump ordered employees at his Florida resort to delete security videos as he was under investigation for retaining classified documents, U.S. prosecutors said on Thursday as they broadened the case against the former president and charged a second member of his staff with helping to hide documents.
 U.S. Special Counsel Jack Smith filed three new criminal counts against Trump, bringing the total to 40, and charged a maintenance worker at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, Carlos De Oliveira, with conspiracy to obstruct justice, accusing him of helping Trump to hide documents.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-de ... 023-07-27/
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Jack Smith has tapes of Carlos wheeling around documents after Trump was ordered to surrender them but by far the worst allegations against Carlos is he ordered Employee Number 3 to erase tapes AND WIPE A SERVER  CLEAN.  Carlos said The Boss ordered it.

Whoops.

Hillary Clinton had a server, years ago.

Bring popcorn. 

The documents case just got Watergate tapes exiting.

Yep, Trump is bring persecuted for meaningless ****, while your current President has extorted $10 million from a Ukrainian Company, hooked his son on drugs, and fondled underage girls.....but let's talk about Trump.....you simple, stupid, retard.

 

golfboy » 27 Jul 2023, 8:35 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2023, 8:35 pm

Isn't it odd now every time the news is going bad for Biden, this "special counsel" takes some kind of action to change the narrative?

Why, is this so bad?

Until today, this was a pissing match between the National Archives and a hot headed, bull stubborn clown.   Nobody expected jail time for Trump’s documents case in Florida even, if convicted.

Until today, if I’d sat on that jury it would be difficult if not impossible to convince me Trump had criminal intent.  He wanted to keep his White House papers and ****.  The tape that leaked of old Donald talking smack to a couple of giggling girls only HELPS TRUMP, he had no guilty mind.

Carlos, is head janitor at Mari Largo. He probably lives in a barrio full of brown people.

Jack Smith will cut a deal with Carlos.

When in response to a subpoena the defendant orders minions to destroy evidence he has criminal intent.

Trump knew, he’d done wrong. 
 

Dayyam

America is wreck

RebelGator » 27 Jul 2023, 8:40 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2023, 8:40 pm

Yep, Trump is bring persecuted for meaningless ****, while your current President has extorted $10 million from a Ukrainian Company, hooked his son on drugs, and fondled underage girls.....but let's talk about Trump.....you simple, stupid, retard.

That’s the breaks, ain’t it?  

This documents trial is set for late May.  Trump will have wrapped up the nomination by then.

I wonder if the judge will require his presence?

These are 40 felonies!

Let’s say Brandon **** his pants on television and Jill puts him in a nursing home, and Kamala is President, it doesn’t matter who the Dems have in office.

Fox will be forced to cover the trial or lose viewers,  and they’ll report it day by day.

Trump was such an idiot he ordered a server wiped.

This is Watergate tapes bad for him.

Nixon only covered up a crime, remember?

Bruce » 27 Jul 2023, 9:04 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2023, 9:04 pm

That’s the breaks, ain’t it?  

This documents trial is set for late May.  Trump will have wrapped up the nomination by then.

I wonder if the judge will require his presence?

These are 40 felonies!

Let’s say Brandon **** his pants on television and Jill puts him in a nursing home, and Kamala is President, it doesn’t matter who the Dems have in office.

Fox will be forced to cover the trial or lose viewers,  and they’ll report it day by day.

Trump was such an idiot he ordered a server wiped.

This is Watergate tapes bad for him.

Nixon only covered up a crime, remember?

Since the many titted empress had her server wiped and got by with it, Trump thought it was legal.

Yep, every time things get worse for the braindead biden crime family...but, but, but Trump!!!

Braindead biden could **** on the desk in the oval office and you goddamn ****, liberal sheople would swear it didn't stink.
 

Buffalo » 28 Jul 2023, 8:22 am » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2023, 8:22 am

Since the many titted empress had her server wiped and got by with it, Trump thought it was legal.

Yep, every time things get worse for the braindead biden crime family...but, but, but Trump!!!

Braindead biden could **** on the desk in the oval office and you goddamn ****, liberal sheople would swear it didn't stink.

Trump might have thought, since Hillary did it I can do it.

He’s sure to tell his lawyers to use that defense.

Neither Hillary nor Trump are spies or foreign agents.   They didn’t have government documents at home to sell to Russians or the Chinese.

Hillary is in the clear.  She cooperated.  

Trump only pretended to cooperate.


His most ardent, ivermectin eating, MAGA cap wearing followers will actually watch their hero on trial.

The stupid, idiotic, dumb bastard ordered the head janitor to wipe his server.

Unlike Hillary’s sever, Trump’s had no documents.

He wanted security footage erased.

Why?

Only one reason, a cover up.

He had a guilty mind.

Bruce » 28 Jul 2023, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2023, 8:57 am

Trump might have thought, since Hillary did it I can do it.

He’s sure to tell his lawyers to use that defense.

Neither Hillary nor Trump are spies or foreign agents.   They didn’t have government documents at home to sell to Russians or the Chinese.

Hillary is in the clear.  She cooperated.  

Trump only pretended to cooperate.

His most ardent, ivermectin eating, MAGA cap wearing followers will actually watch their hero on trial.

The stupid, idiotic, dumb bastard ordered the head janitor to wipe his server.

Unlike Hillary’s sever, Trump’s had no documents.

He wanted security footage erased.

Why?

Only one reason, a cover up.

He had a guilty mind.

I'm guessing the deep state apparatchiks have another half dozen or so to mete out as the next few odd braindead biden crime family crimes come to light. More evidence that the Deep State uses taxpayer funds to hound repubs in the courts, but winks and nods at dim-0-craps officials.
What next, they will accuse Trump's dog of biting and find coke laying around?

 

Buffalo » 28 Jul 2023, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2023, 9:30 am

I'm guessing the deep state apparatchiks have another half dozen or so to mete out as the next few odd braindead biden crime family crimes come to light. More evidence that the Deep State uses taxpayer funds to hound repubs in the courts, but winks and nods at dim-0-craps officials.
What next, they will accuse Trump's dog of biting and find coke laying around?

Biden isn’t on trial in Florida.

Trump is.

There are now forty felony counts there against Trump.

It only takes one conviction to put him in a cage, away from his family, his wealth and fame.

This last obstruction charge is devastating.  The others before were serious, but they were over documents,

There’s a man named Carlos that is going to climb on the stand, and say he’s the head custodian at Mari Largo.  He’ll admit taking a deal.

Then he’ll tell the truth.

It’s time Donald took a deal himself.

 In response to a subpoena he ordered evidence destroyed.

Geezus, how stupid.  Not even Nixon did that. 
 

Bruce » 28 Jul 2023, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2023, 9:55 am

Biden isn’t on trial in Florida.

Trump is.

There are now forty felony counts there against Trump.

It only takes one conviction to put him in a cage, away from his family, his wealth and fame.

This last obstruction charge is devastating.  The others before were serious, but they were over documents,

There’s a man named Carlos that is going to climb on the stand, and say he’s the head custodian at Mari Largo.  He’ll admit taking a deal.

Then he’ll tell the truth.

It’s time Donald took a deal himself.

 In response to a subpoena he ordered evidence destroyed.

Geezus, how stupid.  Not even Nixon did that.

As the loony, liberal monkey you are, keep repeating the mantra "we got him now!!!".   Maybe it's time for you to shut the **** up...
Trump is still INNOCENT until proven guilty by a jury of his peers.
If he is found not guilty, will this be the end of the weaponized deep state dim-0-crap apparatchiks' persecution of Trump?  I bet not.  Because dim-0-craps along with their deep state apparatchiks and the lapdog media are scared to death of another Trump Presidency...
 

Buffalo » 28 Jul 2023, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2023, 10:39 am

As the loony, liberal monkey you are, keep repeating the mantra "we got him now!!!".   Maybe it's time for you to shut the **** up...
Trump is still INNOCENT until proven guilty by a jury of his peers.
If he is found not guilty, will this be the end of the weaponized deep state dim-0-crap apparatchiks' persecution of Trump?  I bet not.  Because dim-0-craps along with their deep state apparatchiks and the lapdog media are scared to death of another Trump Presidency...

Yes, Trump will have a trial by 12.

Jack Smith goes first.

Trump can remain silent.  His lawyers will examine the witnesses.  He can call his own witnesses.

And the evidence about Trump ordering Carlos to destroy evidence is so overwhelming, it’s hard to imagine it won’t be believed.  He did that.

And not only is that a crime, that crime proves criminal intent for the other crimes.

I don’t think before this evidence I could have voted to convict Trump.  

But when I see he tried to cover up his crimes, he knew he’d committed crimes.
 

Bruce » 28 Jul 2023, 11:36 am » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2023, 11:36 am

Yes, Trump will have a trial by 12.

Jack Smith goes first.

Trump can remain silent.  His lawyers will examine the witnesses.  He can call his own witnesses.

And the evidence about Trump ordering Carlos to destroy evidence is so overwhelming, it’s hard to imagine it won’t be believed.  He did that.

And not only is that a crime, that crime proves criminal intent for the other crimes.

I don’t think before this evidence I could have voted to convict Trump.  

But when I see he tried to cover up his crimes, he knew he’d committed crimes.

Jackoff Smith is a dim-0-crap partisan hack with a track record of having his convictions overturned.  
 

Buffalo » 28 Jul 2023, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2023, 11:48 am

Jackoff Smith is a dim-0-crap partisan hack with a track record of having his convictions overturned.

He has had convictions over turned 

Jack Smith looks like the Grim Reaper

But this evidence yesterday is beyond a bomb shell or smoking gun.

Jack Smith’s huge problem was proving Trump had criminal intent, that he had a guilty mind.

Trump only touched a few papers.  One of them, the security tapes picked up old Donald talking smooth to a couple of giggling girls about look here, I ordered Iran bombed, or something like that.  It ends with, can somebody get us something to drink.  That helps Trump immensely, he was trying to get ******, not disclose secrets.  He considered those documents as souvenirs.

But when yesterday you find he’d ordered all that evidence destroyed, oh ****.

He knew he’d done wrong.  He tried to cover it all up.


 

Bruce » 28 Jul 2023, 12:04 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2023, 12:04 pm

He has had convictions over turned 

Jack Smith looks like the Grim Reaper

But this evidence yesterday is beyond a bomb shell or smoking gun.

Jack Smith’s huge problem was proving Trump had criminal intent, that he had a guilty mind.

Trump only touched a few papers.  One of them, the security tapes picked up old Donald talking smooth to a couple of giggling girls about look here, I ordered Iran bombed, or something like that.  It ends with, can somebody get us something to drink.  That helps Trump immensely, he was trying to get ******, not disclose secrets.  He considered those documents as souvenirs.

But when yesterday you find he’d ordered all that evidence destroyed, oh ****.

He knew he’d done wrong.  He tried to cover it all up.

We got him now!!!  Yeah, it is blowing smoke up your ****, liberal ***!!!
 

Buffalo » 28 Jul 2023, 12:06 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2023, 12:06 pm

We got him now!!!  Yeah, it is blowing smoke up your ****, liberal ***!!!

It will play over Fox News.

Trump got a subpoena for His security footage.

His response was to assign Carlos to destroy the evidence.

By the way, Carlos tried, and failed.

And reported his failure to Trump.

Think Carlos will go to prison or take a deal?

 

Bruce » 27 Jul 2023, 8:31 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2023, 8:31 pm

WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - Donald Trump ordered employees at his Florida resort to delete security videos as he was under investigation for retaining classified documents, U.S. prosecutors said on Thursday as they broadened the case against the former president and charged a second member of his staff with helping to hide documents.

 U.S. Special Counsel Jack Smith filed three new criminal counts against Trump, bringing the total to 40, and charged a maintenance worker at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, Carlos De Oliveira, with conspiracy to obstruct justice, accusing him of helping Trump to hide documents.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-de ... 023-07-27/
—-Prosecutors allege that on June 25, 2022, the day after investigators had requested “[a]ny and all surveillance records, videos, images, photographs and/or CCTV from internal cameras” at certain locations at the Mar-a-Lago Club, de Oliveira met with a Mar-a-Lago IT employee, allegedly at Nauta’s direction. De Oliveira allegedly told the employee something to the effect of “the boss” wanting the server containing the security footage “deleted.” The employee replied that he would need to reach out to his supervisor. 
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Jack Smith has tapes of Carlos wheeling around documents after Trump was ordered to surrender them but by far the worst allegations against Carlos is he ordered Employee Number 3 to erase tapes AND WIPE A SERVER  CLEAN.  Carlos said The Boss ordered it.

Whoops.

Hillary Clinton had a server, years ago.

Bring popcorn. 

The documents case just got Watergate tapes exiting. 

95% probability the deleted security didn't involve the location of the papers. Just other areas of the estate. This is just another blow smoke episode brought to humanity by intellectual minds and reasonable doubt gurus manifesting social chaos. again.

Notice these people never remove doubt how evolving works in plain sight. they always present paths of anything else is possible rather than have an honest discussion of what never was possible. from an evolving position of reproductively here specificity..

Bruce » 27 Jul 2023, 8:49 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2023, 8:49 pm

Why, is this so bad?

Why is it wrong that the Special Counsil is acting to protect Joe Biden?
Really?

Bruce » 28 Jul 2023, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2023, 12:24 pm

It will play over Fox News.

Trump got a subpoena for His security footage.

His response was to assign Carlos to destroy the evidence.

By the way, Carlos tried, and failed.

And reported his failure to Trump.

Think Carlos will go to prison or take a deal?

Are we using Hillary deleting her emails, and ordering her server wiped with BleachBit as precedent?
What happened to her, and the plebe that was ordered to destroy that data?