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Bruce » 28 Jul 2023, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2023, 12:24 pm

It will play over Fox News.

Trump got a subpoena for His security footage.

His response was to assign Carlos to destroy the evidence.

By the way, Carlos tried, and failed.

And reported his failure to Trump.

Think Carlos will go to prison or take a deal?

That little protest on 1/6 seemed to scare the **** out of you, what do you think 75 million pissed off voters will do to your fear meter?
 

Bruce » 27 Jul 2023, 8:31 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2023, 8:31 pm

WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - Donald Trump ordered employees at his Florida resort to delete security videos as he was under investigation for retaining classified documents, U.S. prosecutors said on Thursday as they broadened the case against the former president and charged a second member of his staff with helping to hide documents.

 U.S. Special Counsel Jack Smith filed three new criminal counts against Trump, bringing the total to 40, and charged a maintenance worker at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, Carlos De Oliveira, with conspiracy to obstruct justice, accusing him of helping Trump to hide documents.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-de ... 023-07-27/
—-Prosecutors allege that on June 25, 2022, the day after investigators had requested “[a]ny and all surveillance records, videos, images, photographs and/or CCTV from internal cameras” at certain locations at the Mar-a-Lago Club, de Oliveira met with a Mar-a-Lago IT employee, allegedly at Nauta’s direction. De Oliveira allegedly told the employee something to the effect of “the boss” wanting the server containing the security footage “deleted.” The employee replied that he would need to reach out to his supervisor. 
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Jack Smith has tapes of Carlos wheeling around documents after Trump was ordered to surrender them but by far the worst allegations against Carlos is he ordered Employee Number 3 to erase tapes AND WIPE A SERVER  CLEAN.  Carlos said The Boss ordered it.

Whoops.

Hillary Clinton had a server, years ago.

Bring popcorn. 

The documents case just got Watergate tapes exiting.

it's not real...it's made up **** .....try to post something real and of value

nefarious101 » 30 Jul 2023, 7:38 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 7:38 pm

it's not real...it's made up **** .....try to post something real and of value

 MIAMI, Fl.— The Mar-a-Lago property manager charged in a new indictment alongside former President Donald Trump in the alleged mishandling of classified government documents after Trump left office has not secured a Florida-based lawyer ahead of his first court appearance Monday.
 Carlos De Oliveira, 56, is set to appear before a magistrate judge Monday in Miami to enter his plea after he was named last week as a third co-defendant in a superseding, or amended, indictment. Prosecutors charge that De Oliveira attempted to delete surveillance footage at the former president’s Palm Beach club after the Justice Department sought to obtain it.
 “We’re working on ascertaining local counsel,” John Irving, an attorney for De Oliveira, told NBC News.But without a lawyer who can practice in Florida, Irving said he didn’t think the judge would proceed with De Oliveira’s arraignment. Irving said it would depend on the judge, raising the prospect of delays in the case.
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why can’t trump hire him local lawyers?

Because every one will advise Carlos to take a deal.

Going after the low hanging fruit is a common tactic for prosecutors. Most of the time it never works out for them.


But.... YOU GOT HIM, NOW!!!

RebelGator » 30 Jul 2023, 4:47 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 4:47 pm

That little protest on 1/6 seemed to scare the **** out of you, what do you think 75 million pissed off voters will do to your fear meter?

Not much.

At least 99% of Trump supporters are decent, law abiding citizens, if not more.

Most believe the Florida case against Trump is another witch hunt.  

Next May they’ll see their idol turned into stone.

Trump ordered damning evidence against him be destroyed, anc he failed.

Even Richard Nixon did not order the Watergate tapes erased.  He wasn’t such a fool.

Trump’s supporters are going to see his employees wheeling around boxes of records Trump ordered them to hide.

And those same employees all will confirm Trump ordered the tapes earased.

Damn.

Of the **** Trump got away with, his downfall will come from one poor man from Guam and another poor man from Portugal.

He ought to have built a higher wall.
 

ROG62 » 27 Jul 2023, 8:33 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2023, 8:33 pm

lol

Warcok » 30 Jul 2023, 8:56 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 8:56 pm

Going after the low hanging fruit is a common tactic for prosecutors. Most of the time it never works out for them.

But.... YOU GOT HIM, NOW!!!

True, but this is mouth to ear from The Donald to Carlos.

Trump had to dodge his Secret Service and order poor immigrant employees to do highly illegal ****.

And it was all so needlessly stupid.

Any sane man on the planet would do like Mike Pence and Joe Biden did and say the records are downstairs, help yourself.

Gawd.

 This is like a Godfather ordering a janitor to dispose of a person that died of old age.
 
MAGAS don’t understand.  The only way Trump could commit any crimes regarding his own records, was unlawfully withholding them.

Bruce » 30 Jul 2023, 9:22 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 9:22 pm

Any sane man on the planet would do like Mike Pence and Joe Biden did and say the records are downstairs, help yourself.

 

Really?  Because Biden has thousands of boxes of records at the University of Delaware, and went to court to prevent the government from taking them.

 

golfboy » 30 Jul 2023, 9:37 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 9:37 pm

Really?  Because Biden has thousands of boxes of records at the University of Delaware, and went to court to prevent the government from taking them.

bingo 

Dayyum

America is a wreck

Bruce » 30 Jul 2023, 8:42 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 8:42 pm

 MIAMI, Fl.— The Mar-a-Lago property manager charged in a new indictment alongside former President Donald Trump in the alleged mishandling of classified government documents after Trump left office has not secured a Florida-based lawyer ahead of his first court appearance Monday.
 Carlos De Oliveira, 56, is set to appear before a magistrate judge Monday in Miami to enter his plea after he was named last week as a third co-defendant in a superseding, or amended, indictment. Prosecutors charge that De Oliveira attempted to delete surveillance footage at the former president’s Palm Beach club after the Justice Department sought to obtain it.
 “We’re working on ascertaining local counsel,” John Irving, an attorney for De Oliveira, told NBC News.But without a lawyer who can practice in Florida, Irving said he didn’t think the judge would proceed with De Oliveira’s arraignment. Irving said it would depend on the judge, raising the prospect of delays in the case.
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why can’t trump hire him local lawyers?

Because every one will advise Carlos to take a deal.

Bruce?...isn't that a stereotypical *** name used in off-color jokes about *** and same sex cocksuckers?


Wow...you're amazingly stupid......but you're a soft minded idiocrat....what else can anyone expect.


What exactly is an idiocrat you might ask....

here....this will explain it to you



Idiocract
/ˌidēˈäkrət/noun

• 1.an idiot type that has intelligence well below that of the common idiot and is controlled by other people through the idiocrats lack of the ability to reason and problem solve:  idiocracts are easily led - similar to that of an over populated lemming colony on a suicide march to the sea

they even supplied a pic to help idiocrats understand what exactly their function in life is



 

golfboy » 30 Jul 2023, 9:37 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 9:37 pm

Really?  Because Biden has thousands of boxes of records at the University of Delaware, and went to court to prevent the government from taking them.

Why Trump supporters believe in that old clown is he lies to them.
 

——-In 2012, when Biden was vice president, he gave his alma more than 1,850 boxes of archived papers and 415 gigabytes of electronic records from his 36 years in the Senate. The donation is subject to a gift agreement that prohibits the records from being made publicly available until two years after Biden “retires from public life.”—-

Think of that record of service, 36 years a Senator, then 8 more as VP.

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 WASHINGTON (AP) — The FBI searched the University of Delaware in recent weeks for classified documents as part of its investigation into the potential mishandling of sensitive government records by President Joe Biden.
 The search, first reported by CNN, was confirmed to The Associated Press by a person familiar with the matter who was not authorized to discuss it publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. The person would not say whether anything was found.
 A Justice Department special counsel is investigating how classified documents from Biden’s time as vice president and senator came to wind up in his home and former office — and whether any mishandling involved criminal intent or was unintentional. Biden’s personal lawyers disclosed in January that a small batch of documents with classified markings had been found weeks earlier in his former Washington office, and they have since allowed FBI searches of multiple properties.——

Trump had something to hide in all those records, or else he’d have done what Pence and Biden did and turn all of them the government wanted back.

But generations  of mothers and teachers yet unborn will tell their children, don’t be a Trump and always cooperate with the law.  And whatever you do, don’t order your records destroyed.

It’s not worth prison.

 

Bruce » 27 Jul 2023, 8:31 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2023, 8:31 pm

 

^^ Paid troll.
 

Bruce » 28 Jul 2023, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2023, 8:57 am

 

^^  Pretends he has a wife.

Is really a homosexual.  
 

RebelGator » 30 Jul 2023, 4:47 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2023, 4:47 pm

That little protest on 1/6 seemed to scare the **** out of you, what do you think 75 million pissed off voters will do to your fear meter?
 

Read your post and tell me you just didn't divide the population of this species into we, they, them, those people evolving here at the same time?

You just isolated 75 million sole displacements among 725 million others living in this atmosphere at the same time ancestrally speaking of generation gaps living.

Bruce » 31 Jul 2023, 8:17 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 8:17 am

Why Trump supporters believe in that old clown is he lies to them.

——-In 2012, when Biden was vice president, he gave his alma more than 1,850 boxes of archived papers and 415 gigabytes of electronic records from his 36 years in the Senate. The donation is subject to a gift agreement that prohibits the records from being made publicly available until two years after Biden “retires from public life.”—-

Think of that record of service, 36 years a Senator, then 8 more as VP.

——

 WASHINGTON (AP) — The FBI searched the University of Delaware in recent weeks for classified documents as part of its investigation into the potential mishandling of sensitive government records by President Joe Biden.
 The search, first reported by CNN, was confirmed to The Associated Press by a person familiar with the matter who was not authorized to discuss it publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. The person would not say whether anything was found.
 A Justice Department special counsel is investigating how classified documents from Biden’s time as vice president and senator came to wind up in his home and former office — and whether any mishandling involved criminal intent or was unintentional. Biden’s personal lawyers disclosed in January that a small batch of documents with classified markings had been found weeks earlier in his former Washington office, and they have since allowed FBI searches of multiple properties.——

Trump had something to hide in all those records, or else he’d have done what Pence and Biden did and turn all of them the government wanted back.

But generations  of mothers and teachers yet unborn will tell their children, don’t be a Trump and always cooperate with the law.  And whatever you do, don’t order your records destroyed.

It’s not worth prison.

Yep 47 years of perversion and corruption by braindead biden.  No wonder they had to agree to seal his incriminating records until after his death...Don't order your records destroyed just have them sealed and unavailable.

You are still a ****, liberal, braindead biden dicksucker, brucie boi!!!
 

TRump leaves evidence behind to be used against himself.......... the mafia only wants his money they don't want him. He is too reckless and arrogant.

There is no evidence regarding Joe Biden as yet ............... just yada yada yada and babble babble babble from the corner of the planet known as the Fake Republican Party. Indictments may reduce the size of the Fake Republican Party and may also return control of the house and senate to the democrats.

YIKES and OMG !!!!!!!!
 

What none of Trump’s boosters seem to understand, is that this morning Biden and Harris will both have a morning security briefing, the same as Trump and Pence did.

Let’s say America has a spy imbedded in Putin’s house, and the spy reports Putin’s young girlfriend broke a bunch of dishes because Putin was unfaithful.

Joe and Kamala ought to get a chuckle out of that.

And let’s say one forgets to hand that report back and many years from now it winds up in Biden’s garage beside the 327 Corvette his father gave him new in 1967.

And let’s say Biden is dead by then, and Jill too.

What happens to Hunter Biden if he orders the janitor to erase the security tapes to the garage?

He could have let the government have the paper back.

Now, he’s going to prison.

Because he had knowledge there was something to hide.

razoo » 31 Jul 2023, 8:52 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 8:52 am

TRump leaves evidence behind to be used against himself.......... the mafia only wants his money they don't want him. He is too reckless and arrogant.

There is no evidence regarding Joe Biden as yet ............... just yada yada yada and babble babble babble from the corner of the planet known as the Fake Republican Party. Indictments may reduce the size of the Fake Republican Party and may also return control of the house and senate to the democrats.

YIKES and OMG !!!!!!!!

There is **** of evidence, braindead biden dick sucker!!!  Or do you still believe that crackhead hunter's computer is Russian disinformation?  Or that recorded phone conversations are fake?  Or that former business partners are lying? Or that braindead biden is telling the truth when he lies about not knowing or being invovled in crackhead hunter's criminal extotions?  IDIOT!!!

Not only is braindead biden a corrupt, perverted, demented old man, he has been the most sorry President ever.

Bruce » 31 Jul 2023, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 8:53 am

What none of Trump’s boosters seem to understand, is that this morning Biden and Harris will both have a morning security briefing, the same as Trump and Pence did.

Let’s say America has a spy imbedded in Putin’s house, and the spy reports Putin’s young girlfriend broke a bunch of dishes because Putin was unfaithful.

Joe and Kamala ought to get a chuckle out of that.

And let’s say one forgets to hand that report back and many years from now it winds up in Biden’s garage beside the 327 Corvette his father gave him new in 1967.

And let’s say Biden is dead by then, and Jill too.

What happens to Hunter Biden if he orders the janitor to erase the security tapes to the garage?

He could have let the government have the paper back.

Now, he’s going to prison.

Because he had knowledge there was something to hide.

first of all plugs is in Delaware maybe takin care of morning wood