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RebelGator » 31 Jul 2023, 2:50 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 2:50 pm

Medicare is broke now with the age restrictions, what kind of idiot would want to lower it?

It is not broke and will not go broke. The fake republican party lies 24/7.

No it will not be on the platform because Biden prefers the over priced medical insurance industry.

It's a matter that should be put to the voters on the 2024 ballot because the medical insurance industry spends billions of health insurance dollars on campaigns NOT TO MENTION elected officials on both sides
of the aisle have the health insurance industry in their Wall Street Portfolios.

Bruce » 31 Jul 2023, 1:58 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 1:58 pm

Jesus **** Christ

Will having Drag Queen story hour be on the platform?

Would you like to put Donald Trump back in power?

Medicaid for All can wait.

^^^ triggered...

Fuelman » 31 Jul 2023, 2:09 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 2:09 pm

Why wait? Your blistering economy, as you have stated, has already put you in the winners circle.

 
 

Fuelman » 31 Jul 2023, 3:27 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 3:27 pm

I'll dumb it down a bit for you, status quo as in doing nothing. Fits the Republican mind set.

print more money to ensure inflation remains at record levels thrusting interest rates well into double digit territory...  
 

Fuelman » 31 Jul 2023, 1:48 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jul 2023, 1:48 pm

What say you Democrats? I was surprised it was voted out of the 2020 platform. Guess there was some concern in the blue wall states not having enough support and those in power didn't want to take a chance.

It's still a winning issue and like it or not, it's coming! The support in the younger generations will make it so.

May have to **** Biden though!
 

To the victor of elections goes control of corrupting next generations as usual. What is won when everyone remains absolutely corrupted from understanding the basics of life into believing nothing is impossible when people agree to disagree until extinction arrives.

razoo » 01 Aug 2023, 12:53 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 12:53 am

No it will not be on the platform because Biden prefers the over priced medical insurance industry.

It's a matter that should be put to the voters on the 2024 ballot because the medical insurance industry spends billions of health insurance dollars on campaigns NOT TO MENTION elected officials on both sides
of the aisle have the health insurance industry in their Wall Street Portfolios.

The real problem are politicians , wealthy medical insurance industry and campaign money ......... 

razoo » 01 Aug 2023, 7:04 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 7:04 am

The real problem are politicians , wealthy medical insurance industry and campaign money ......... 

Inaccurate reporting on your part.

ROG62 » 01 Aug 2023, 6:56 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 6:56 am

print more money to ensure inflation remains at record levels thrusting interest rates well into double digit territory...

That's not the preferred method of paying for such a program. You would think the United Kingdom should have a much higher debt to GDP ratio with all that universal healthcare spending but that's not the case. The debt to GDP ratio in the United States is 25% higher without any universal healthcare.
 

The tax wedge for the average single worker in the United States increased by 2.2 percentage points from 28.3% in 2021 to 30.5% in 2022. The OECD average tax wedge in 2022 was 34.6% (2021, 34.6%). In 2022, the United States had the 29th lowest tax wedge among the 38 OECD member countries, compared with 30th in 2021.

Looks like these other countries get a hell of a lot more for their tax money.

Fuelman » 01 Aug 2023, 7:35 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 7:35 am

That's not the preferred method of paying for such a program. You would think the United Kingdom should have a much higher debt to GDP ratio with all that universal healthcare spending but that's not the case. The debt to GDP ratio in the United States is 25% higher without any universal healthcare.

Democrats are not the problem.

Democrats are the solution, to the problem.

The god damn Republicans would love nothing better than for us to tell some poor, white, independent voter who has good employer provided insurance we want to replace that with Medicare.

We know it would bs better.

He would vote for a **** Republican 

Nostradamus'omh » 01 Aug 2023, 6:56 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 6:56 am

To the victor of elections goes control of corrupting next generations as usual. What is won when everyone remains absolutely corrupted from understanding the basics of life into believing nothing is impossible when people agree to disagree until extinction arrives.

Hey Sole, nice to see you staying consistent over the years. 
 

Bruce » 01 Aug 2023, 7:47 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 7:47 am

Democrats are not the problem.

Democrats are the solution, to the problem.

The god damn Republicans would love nothing better than for us to tell some poor, white, independent voter who has good employer provided insurance we want to replace that with Medicare.

We know it would bs better.

He would vote for a **** Republican

Hey now, @RebelGator  got a call from his CEO saying the company can't afford another dime for his healthcare. It's unfortunate people get bound to their jobs by having decent healthcare. It helps to walk a mile in someone else's shoes and some just aren't capable of having an ounce of sympathy for anyone but themselves.

BOOTSTRAPS!
 

Fuelman » 01 Aug 2023, 8:07 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 8:07 am

Hey now, @RebelGator  got a call from his CEO saying the company can't afford another dime for his healthcare. It's unfortunate people get bound to their jobs by having decent healthcare. It helps to walk a mile in someone else's shoes and some just aren't capable of having an ounce of sympathy for anyone but themselves.

BOOTSTRAPS!

There are tons of white union workers in the Rust Belt that love Jesus, pretty girls, guns, domestic beer, and hate blacks, Mexicans, ***, queers, and anti union Republicans all about the same.

They are the backbone of the Blue Dog Democrats.

They are selfish.  They have their insurance so **** you.

Theyll vote for Trump, if we put Medicaid for All on our platform.

 

Bruce » 01 Aug 2023, 8:13 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 8:13 am

There are tons of white union workers in the Rust Belt that love Jesus, pretty girls, guns, domestic beer, and hate blacks, Mexicans, ***, queers, and anti union Republicans all about the same.

They are the backbone of the Blue Dog Democrats.

They are selfish.  They have their insurance so **** you.

Theyll vote for Trump, if we put Medicaid for All on our platform.

It's best to just beat them about the head with facts!

Average cost per person in UK for healthcare, $4904/year.

Average cost per person in US, $12,900/ year.

To be honest, I was one of those Republicans to a degree. Sometimes you just have to reevaluate, the struggle is real in many aspects of life. A somewhat intelligent person would rather put the difference in their 401k verses giving to to an insurance company. 
 

Fuelman » 01 Aug 2023, 7:35 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 7:35 am

That's not the preferred method of paying for such a program. You would think the United Kingdom should have a much higher debt to GDP ratio with all that universal healthcare spending but that's not the case. The debt to GDP ratio in the United States is 25% higher without any universal healthcare.

more than likely, like Germany, they have a VAT...also, the UK is notorious for not covering ****, forcing citizens to seek treatments outside the UK...
 

Bruce » 01 Aug 2023, 7:47 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 7:47 am

Democrats are not the problem.

Democrats are the solution, to the problem.

The god damn Republicans would love nothing better than for us to tell some poor, white, independent voter who has good employer provided insurance we want to replace that with Medicare.

We know it would bs better.

He would vote for a **** Republican

If democrats are not the problem 

why don't we have MFA?

Obama had the momentum, both houses

didn't even give us the public option 
 

profit from wars! force nations to buy usa weapons and use their troops. use the profits to fund medicare for all. stop taxing usa citizens to fund biden's wars. usa has massive stock piles of biological agents! use the biological agents on nations who refuse to buy usa weapons.

Bruce » 01 Aug 2023, 7:47 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 7:47 am

Democrats are not the problem.

Democrats are the solution, to the problem.

The god damn Republicans would love nothing better than for us to tell some poor, white, independent voter who has good employer provided insurance we want to replace that with Medicare.

We know it would bs better.

He would vote for a **** Republican 

Intellect is a static energy created by the brain working the body to be mobile while living in series parallel energy flow of genetics never duplicating a reproduction twice the same form or shape conceived to decomposed native to this atmosphere's periodic elements inanimate or ancestral.

What cannot erode decomposes during perpetual balancing cycles spontaneously going forward here simultaneously existing now. You are a result of evolving in real time, your ideology corrupted your entire ancestry since dawn of civilization.

You were never educated to understand living in real time.

ROG62 » 01 Aug 2023, 9:19 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 9:19 am

more than likely, like Germany, they have a VAT...also, the UK is notorious for not covering ****, forcing citizens to seek treatments outside the UK...

Yes, aware of those taxes, have bitched about them for years and not wanted them here.

Would "skin in the game" really be that bad? Seems I've used that talking point before concerning federal taxes.