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maineman » 01 Aug 2023, 8:59 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 8:59 pm

show me that any non-citizen LEO's in Illinois crossed our borders without permission.

I don't have to.  The law would allow it. 
*******.
 

golfboy » 01 Aug 2023, 9:00 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 9:00 pm

I don't have to.  The law would allow it. 
*******.

the law specifically disallows it.


 The bill, which amends the Illinois Municipal Code and goes into effect on January 1, 2024, “Provides that an individual who is not a citizen but is legally authorized to work in the United States under federal law is authorized to apply for the position of a police officer, subject to all requirements and limitations, other than citizenship, to which other applicants are subject.”
 

maineman » 01 Aug 2023, 9:01 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 9:01 pm

the law specifically disallows it.

 The bill, which amends the Illinois Municipal Code and goes into effect on January 1, 2024, “Provides that an individual who is not a citizen but is legally authorized to work in the United States under federal law is authorized to apply for the position of a police officer, subject to all requirements and limitations, other than citizenship, to which other applicants are subject.”

How does that keep an illegal alien with a Biden green card, from becoming a police officer?
A green card is the literal "authorization to work in the United States", *******.
"A Green Card (officially known as a Permanent Resident Card allows you to live and work permanently in the United States. "

golfboy » 01 Aug 2023, 9:07 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 9:07 pm

How does that keep an illegal alien with a Biden green card, from becoming a police officer?
A green card is the literal "authorization to work in the United States", *******.
"A Green Card (officially known as a Permanent Resident Card allows you to live and work permanently in the United States. "

If you have a green card, you are, by legal definition, LEGAL.  Is English your second language?

maineman » 01 Aug 2023, 9:09 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 9:09 pm

If you have a green card, you are, by legal definition, LEGAL.  Is English your second language?

With a Green Card, you are allowed to reside in the U.S. and work. 
It does not expunge the crime you committed, illegally entering America. 

Thanks for showing everyone why you're called Room Temp.
 
 

golfboy » 01 Aug 2023, 9:16 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 9:16 pm

With a Green Card, you are allowed to reside in the U.S. and work. 
It does not expunge the crime you committed, illegally entering America. 

Thanks for showing everyone why you're called Room Temp.

what crime?  

if you apply for a green card and get it, there is no crime.  We don't issue green cards to criminals.
 

maineman » 01 Aug 2023, 9:23 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 9:23 pm

what crime?  

if you apply for a green card and get it, there is no crime.

I already quoted you the law.  Don't you read anything, word soup?
Answer the question:  Does Biden issuing you a green card expunge your criminal history?
 

golfboy » 01 Aug 2023, 9:25 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 9:25 pm

I already quoted you the law.  Don't you read anything, word soup?
Answer the question:  Does Biden issuing you a green card expunge your criminal history?

Do you have any cases of immigrants who violated  8 U.S.C. § 1325 who have subsequently sought to be LEOs?

golfboy » 01 Aug 2023, 9:25 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 9:25 pm

I already quoted you the law.  Don't you read anything, word soup?
Answer the question:  Does Biden issuing you a green card expunge your criminal history?

The vast majority of Green Card holders are family members of American citizens and other green card holders.

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Every year, the U.S. government issues more than a million green cards. Most are given to family members of U.S. citizens and current green card holders, followed by workers from other countries seeking employment in the United States as the next biggest group of recipients.

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Any immigration violation likely disqualifies the family member from a Green Card.

Ever wonder why most Hispanics, except white skinned Cubans, hate the guts of most Republicans?

Today the state of Texas is over half Hispanic.

When they all put down their Coronas and go vote that will fix those hateful Republican bastards for good.
 

Bruce » 01 Aug 2023, 9:45 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 9:45 pm

The vast majority of Green Card holders are family members of American citizens and other green card holders.

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Every year, the U.S. government issues more than a million green cards. Most are given to family members of U.S. citizens and current green card holders, followed by workers from other countries seeking employment in the United States as the next biggest group of recipients.

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Any immigration violation likely disqualifies the family member from a Green Card.

Ever wonder why most Hispanics, except white skinned Cubans, hate the guts of most Republicans?

Today the state of Texas is over half Hispanic.

When they all put down their Coronas and go vote that will fix those hateful Republican bastards for good.

Every illegal alien Joe Biden lets in this country, is a criminal and should be deported. 
 

maineman » 01 Aug 2023, 9:29 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 9:29 pm

Do you have any cases of immigrants who violated  8 U.S.C. § 1325 who have subsequently sought to be LEOs?

The law was signed on Friday, *******.
Just admit you're wrong and move on.  Everyone here sees it, room temp. 
 

golfboy » 01 Aug 2023, 10:11 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 10:11 pm

Every illegal alien Joe Biden lets in this country, is a criminal and should be deported.

He’s been catching 10,000 a week

He can’t shoot them.

We don’t want to built that many prisons.

Every one is a perfect Child of God, according to Christ on the Mount of Olives.

So Joe gives them a hot meal, any medical care they need, and clothes if they have none.

And ships them back across the border:

America is not officially a Christian nation, but it’s set up on good Christian principles.

I’m so glad, that’s true.

https://youtu.be/0wC_MGEcjDs
 

Bruce » 01 Aug 2023, 10:28 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 10:28 pm

He’s been catching 10,000 a week

He can’t shoot them.

We don’t want to built that many prisons.

Every one is a perfect Child of God, according to Christ on the Mount of Olives.

So Joe gives them a hot meal, any medical care they need, and clothes if they have none.

And ships them back across the border:

America is not officially a Christian nation, but it’s set up on good Christian principles.

I’m so glad, that’s true.

https://youtu.be/0wC_MGEcjDs

Catching?   They are literally turnin themselves in because Biden let's them go.
Ever heard of the word "No"?
Close to border. 
 

golfboy » 01 Aug 2023, 10:40 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 10:40 pm

Catching?   They are literally turnin themselves in because Biden let's them go.
Ever heard of the word "No"?
Close to border.

The Mexico–United States border extends 3,145 kilometers (1,954 miles), in addition to the maritime boundaries of 29 km (18 mi) into the Pacific Ocean and 19 km (12 mi) into the Gulf of Mexico.
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Biden has expanded the number of Border Agents to roughly 20,000.

And while that sounds impressive, they work 8 hour shifts and get two days a week off, they work in pairs, and not all are right on the border.

Trump completed about 50 miles of barrier, which makes 700 miles total, and almost all of it can be scaled, or tunneled.


In all, 20,000 agents catch and deport 10,000 people a week along a 2,000 mile border.

At least 11 milion or more, have made it past the danger of being snatched up by the border patrol.

I don’t have a solution but that’s the problem..)


 

maineman » 01 Aug 2023, 8:29 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 8:29 pm

coward.  It was a simple question.  What part of being a law enforcement officer cannot be  performed by a legal immigrant who meets all the other requirements for the position?

they're not legal immigrants...if you get a green card, it gives you the opportunity to work here, but it does not change your immigration status...

without knowing the exact criteria to become a peace officer, I can't answer it without speculation...
 

ROG62 » 02 Aug 2023, 6:27 am » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2023, 6:27 am

they're not legal immigrants...if you get a green card, it gives you the opportunity to work here, but it does not change your immigration status...

without knowing the exact criteria to become a peace officer, I can't answer it without speculation...

Yes, they ARE legal immigrants.

A green card IS the sign of a foreign national who has immigrated to our country legally.  He's not a citizen but he is authorized to live here.

He can't vote, but he can work, own property, and pay taxes.  The law is specific.  It says that a foreign national can be an LEO as long as he meets the job requirements (I would assume some minimum level of education, a driver's license and a clean criminal record)  Illinois simply says that United States citizenship is no longer one o those job requirements.  
 

golfboy » 01 Aug 2023, 10:12 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 10:12 pm

The law was signed on Friday, *******.
Just admit you're wrong and move on.  Everyone here sees it, room temp.

I am not wrong about this.  If Illinois wants to take US Citizenship off of its list of job requirements to become an LEO, that is certainly their right to do so.  Nothing in the US Constitution prevents foreign nationals from working in America.

golfboy » 01 Aug 2023, 9:25 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 9:25 pm

I already quoted you the law.  Don't you read anything, word soup?
Answer the question:  Does Biden issuing you a green card expunge your criminal history?

Violation of 8 U.S.C. § 1325 is a misdemeanor.  Generally speaking,  a misdemeanor will not disqualify someone from becoming an LEO.

maineman » 01 Aug 2023, 9:01 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 9:01 pm

the law specifically disallows it.

 The bill, which amends the Illinois Municipal Code and goes into effect on January 1, 2024, “Provides that an individual who is not a citizen but is legally authorized to work in the United States under federal law is authorized to apply for the position of a police officer, subject to all requirements and limitations, other than citizenship, to which other applicants are subject.”

You will not protect Maine.

But.........I will .           
Here I am...............                             
@sooted up Cyndi  
https://youtu.be/FI1ylg4GKv8
 

maineman » 02 Aug 2023, 7:45 am » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2023, 7:45 am

Violation of 8 U.S.C. § 1325 is a misdemeanor.  Generally speaking,  a misdemeanor will not disqualify someone from becoming an LEO.

Thanks for admitting illegals are criminals.
Sad it took you this long to admit the truth.