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MAGA ... now is tRumps chance
MAGA ... now is tRumps chance
By Mrkelly
2 Aug 2023 3:42 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
2 Aug 2023 9:33 pm
------------------------------------------------------------roadkill » 02 Aug 2023, 4:29 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump has 1st A right to say what he wants to. The hoax indictment will go nowhere just like all the other dem hoaxes.
I use to think you were kind of smart...but yer as stupid as Bruce.
Did you do Biden's daughter in the shower too?
https://www.vox.com/2023/8/2/23817444/t ... licitation
Additionally, Smith repeatedly alleges that Trump “knew” that he was spreading lies when he claimed that he had prevailed in 2020, or that the outcome of the 2020 election was in doubt. This matters because the Supreme Court has held that the First Amendment is especially weak when applied to false statements made “with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not.”In fairness, the Supreme Court did say in United States v. Alvarez (2012) that some lies are protected speech. But Alvarez also indicates that “where false claims are made to effect a fraud or secure moneys or other valuable considerations, say offers of employment, it is well established that the Government may restrict speech without affronting the First Amendment.”The latest indictment against Trump alleges that he knew his false statements, made in the hope of overturning the election, were lies. And the indictment offers several examples of conversations between Trump and his senior advisers that bolster the claim that Trump knew he was lying.
2 Aug 2023 11:06 pm
it means they were not going to waste their time.golfboy » 02 Aug 2023, 9:14 pm » wrote: ↑ What does "the Justices' decision not to hear the cases" mean to you?
NONE of the voter fraud cases were ever heard by a court, because no court in this country is going to overturn a Presidental election.
2 Aug 2023 11:09 pm
golfboy » 02 Aug 2023, 9:14 pm » wrote: ↑ What does "the Justices' decision not to hear the cases" mean to you?
NONE of the voter fraud cases were ever heard by a court, because no court in this country is going to overturn a Presidental election.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/27/politics ... index.html
2 Aug 2023 11:11 pm
cnn spreads aids just like you
3 Aug 2023 12:18 am
so now you are switching from the election was a steal to trump has a right to lie?roadkillrig » 02 Aug 2023, 4:21 pm » wrote: ↑ Are you saying Trump doesn't have 1st A rights? Remember...Hillary lied about the Russian collusion hoax. Should she be indicted???
I see you like to use the high schoolish name "tRump". How about Bdone his daughter in the shower?
gotcha
but how does trump have a right to lie really work as a campaign slogan?
3 Aug 2023 6:53 am
3 Aug 2023 6:59 am
Mrkelly » 02 Aug 2023, 6:09 pm » wrote: ↑ awwwww … rebelgator gave me a negative for asking a simple question
Snowflake
???
3 Aug 2023 7:07 am
3 Aug 2023 7:11 am
do you want to keep count?roadkill » 02 Aug 2023, 5:36 pm » wrote: ↑ No way.
In other news...or lack there of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSU6zebEOk0
trump and eastman broke records set by the mafia a year ago.
3 Aug 2023 7:31 am
he can explain this tooMrkelly » 02 Aug 2023, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑ You guys should be excited
the government is going after tRump for lying about the election being rigged
all he needs to do is prove it
bring in Rudi, Sidney Powell, mike the pillow guy, Seb Gorka and the guys that made 2000 mules
hell, bring in Sean inshanity
and show all the proof that we have all heard about
no one has let them show it in a court of law
easy peezee
and if you think for a minute, that I don't hope he can prove it
you would be wrong
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https://www.npr.org/2022/06/16/11052796 ... fense-fund
The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol is calling it "the Big Rip Off."It says the Trump campaign took $250 million in donations from supporters that it said would go to an election defense fund to pay for legal fees to overturn the 2020 presidential election results. But the fund was never actually created, Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., one of the committee members, said Monday in the panel's second public hearing.Instead, the money went to the Save America political action committee, she said, and the money went from there to several pro-Trump organizations which are headed by former officials close to Donald Trump's inner circle."Not only was there the Big Lie," Lofgren said, referring to Trump's false allegations of election fraud, "there was the Big Rip-Off."-
3 Aug 2023 7:35 am
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https://www.rollcall.com/2022/06/13/tru ... anel-says/
Despite being told by the attorney general, his own campaign lawyers and many other senior advisers that his claims of election fraud were wrong, Donald Trump pressed ahead with the “big lie” that the election was stolen and undertook a fundraising enterprise based off of those claims that steered most of that money to Trump’s Save America PAC rather than to election-related litigation.
The Jan. 6 select committee made that argument on Monday and walked the public through a full roster of Trump employees and administration officials who flatly told him he lost the election. When Trump did not like what he heard from those employees, he turned to Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, among others who were proposing debunked election fraud claims described by former White House lawyer Eric Herschmann as “nuts.”
https://www.rollcall.com/2022/06/13/tru ... anel-says/
Despite being told by the attorney general, his own campaign lawyers and many other senior advisers that his claims of election fraud were wrong, Donald Trump pressed ahead with the “big lie” that the election was stolen and undertook a fundraising enterprise based off of those claims that steered most of that money to Trump’s Save America PAC rather than to election-related litigation.
The Jan. 6 select committee made that argument on Monday and walked the public through a full roster of Trump employees and administration officials who flatly told him he lost the election. When Trump did not like what he heard from those employees, he turned to Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, among others who were proposing debunked election fraud claims described by former White House lawyer Eric Herschmann as “nuts.”
3 Aug 2023 7:37 am
3 Aug 2023 7:38 am
It looks to be a brighter day for the moment. The law need to hold him in contempt of the USA until he has been through all of his indictments. He is too dangerous. If I were an active duty military person stationed anywhere abroad there would massive disgust for Donald Trump and his immediate side kicks for exposing any military information.
Some could get lucky. My experience is most people from other nations like Americans quite well ....... in contrast they despise the Imperial USA government = zero respect. WE in America have no idea how human beings abroad have been abused in some way as a result of USA foreign policy .....in some cases the war policy.
Our war policies have killed millions of innocent Viet Nam, Iraqi and Afghanistan innocent mothers, Fathers, Children and grandparents who did not ask for war nor did they necessarily support their Fascist governments,
And many many many thousands of USA soldiers who in many cases are equally as innocent as the native populations.
While the war mongers on capitol hill, wall street banks that finance wars, the MIC etc etc etc sit comfortably at home cheering on mass killings.
Donald Trump and his cronies need to be locked for decades.
https://apjjf.org/-William-E.-Odom/2335/article.html
Some could get lucky. My experience is most people from other nations like Americans quite well ....... in contrast they despise the Imperial USA government = zero respect. WE in America have no idea how human beings abroad have been abused in some way as a result of USA foreign policy .....in some cases the war policy.
Our war policies have killed millions of innocent Viet Nam, Iraqi and Afghanistan innocent mothers, Fathers, Children and grandparents who did not ask for war nor did they necessarily support their Fascist governments,
And many many many thousands of USA soldiers who in many cases are equally as innocent as the native populations.
While the war mongers on capitol hill, wall street banks that finance wars, the MIC etc etc etc sit comfortably at home cheering on mass killings.
Donald Trump and his cronies need to be locked for decades.
https://apjjf.org/-William-E.-Odom/2335/article.html
3 Aug 2023 8:15 am
Different casejerrab » 03 Aug 2023, 7:31 am » wrote: ↑ he can explain this too
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https://www.npr.org/2022/06/16/11052796 ... fense-fund
The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol is calling it "the Big Rip Off."It says the Trump campaign took $250 million in donations from supporters that it said would go to an election defense fund to pay for legal fees to overturn the 2020 presidential election results. But the fund was never actually created, Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., one of the committee members, said Monday in the panel's second public hearing.Instead, the money went to the Save America political action committee, she said, and the money went from there to several pro-Trump organizations which are headed by former officials close to Donald Trump's inner circle."Not only was there the Big Lie," Lofgren said, referring to Trump's false allegations of election fraud, "there was the Big Rip-Off."-
this thread is about "the big steal "
3 Aug 2023 8:47 am
and there is this fund
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Despite being told by the attorney general, his own campaign lawyers and many other senior advisers that his claims of election fraud were wrong, Donald Trump pressed ahead with the “big lie” that the election was stolen and undertook a fundraising enterprise based off of those claims that steered most of that money to Trump’s Save America PAC rather than to election-related litigation.
3 Aug 2023 8:51 am
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-------------------------------------By then it was already clear that not only was victory eluding Trump, but that he was heading towards defeat. A couple of hours earlier, Associated Press had called Michigan and Wisconsin for Joe Biden, putting the Democratic candidate just six electoral college votes away from the White House.Not that you would have known it from Trump’s email.“Friend,” it began. “The Democrats are trying to STEAL the Election. I’ve activated the Official Election Defense Fund and I need EVERY PATRIOT, including YOU, to step up and make sure we have enough resources to PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION.”Over the next nine weeks Trump bombarded his loyal followers with a blitzkrieg of emails, sometimes 25 in a single day. Some of the emails were specific, like the one sent on 8 November calling for help in Michigan where Trump said “we have filed a lawsuit to halt counting” (the email didn’t say that a judge had already thrown out the complaint as baseless).Some of the emails were general, pleading with Trump supporters to “defend our democracy” and prevent the “Radical Left” from “DESTROYING America”. They were sent under several different names – from Trump himself, his sons Don Jr and Eric, the former speaker of the House of Representatives Newt Gingrich, the current chair of the Republican National Committee Ronna McDaniel, and then vice-president Mike Pence.Despite the nuances, all the millions of emails sent out from the @victory.donaldtrump.com address essentially said the same thing. They exhorted Trump supporters to back the “Official Election Defense Fund” with their hard-earned dollars.
3 Aug 2023 8:58 am
I know the chargesjerrab » 03 Aug 2023, 8:51 am » wrote: ↑ -
-------------------------------------By then it was already clear that not only was victory eluding Trump, but that he was heading towards defeat. A couple of hours earlier, Associated Press had called Michigan and Wisconsin for Joe Biden, putting the Democratic candidate just six electoral college votes away from the White House.Not that you would have known it from Trump’s email.“Friend,” it began. “The Democrats are trying to STEAL the Election. I’ve activated the Official Election Defense Fund and I need EVERY PATRIOT, including YOU, to step up and make sure we have enough resources to PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION.”Over the next nine weeks Trump bombarded his loyal followers with a blitzkrieg of emails, sometimes 25 in a single day. Some of the emails were specific, like the one sent on 8 November calling for help in Michigan where Trump said “we have filed a lawsuit to halt counting” (the email didn’t say that a judge had already thrown out the complaint as baseless).Some of the emails were general, pleading with Trump supporters to “defend our democracy” and prevent the “Radical Left” from “DESTROYING America”. They were sent under several different names – from Trump himself, his sons Don Jr and Eric, the former speaker of the House of Representatives Newt Gingrich, the current chair of the Republican National Committee Ronna McDaniel, and then vice-president Mike Pence.Despite the nuances, all the millions of emails sent out from the @victory.donaldtrump.com address essentially said the same thing. They exhorted Trump supporters to back the “Official Election Defense Fund” with their hard-earned dollars.
im talking about the defense
3 Aug 2023 11:22 am
So, I'm innocent of the charge?
3 Aug 2023 11:38 am
I show that you gave a -1 at 6:02 yesterday
I really don't care
just thought it was funny
3 Aug 2023 1:41 pm
yes and how would he defend making money off lying since making money off lying is not covered by free speech?
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