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It's more like MANIPULATION OF THE LWNJ LEMMINGS!!!

Via The Australian:

Cliff Mass, professor of Atmospheric Sciences at University of Washington, said the public was being “misinformed on a massive scale”: “It‘s terrible. I think it’s a disaster. There’s a stunning amount of exaggeration and hype of extreme weather and heatwaves, and it’s very counter-productive,” he told The Australian in an interview. “I’m not a contrarian. I‘m pretty mainstream in a very large [academic] department, and I think most of these claims are unfounded and problematic”. …

 Professor Mass said the climate was “radically warmer” around 1000 years ago during what’s known as the Medieval Warm Period, when agriculture thrived in parts of now ice-covered Greenland. “If you really go back far enough there were swamps near the North Pole, and the other thing to keep in mind is that we‘re coming out of a cold period, a Little Ice Age from roughly 1600 to 1850”.

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 John Christy, a professor of Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Alabama at Huntsville, said heatwaves in the first half of the 20th century were at least as intense as those of more recent decades based on consistent, long-term weather stations going back over a century. “I haven‘t seen anything yet this summer that’s an all-time record for these long-term stations, 1936 still holds by far the record for the most number of stations with the hottest-ever temperatures,” he told The Australian, referring to the year of a great heatwave in North America that killed thousands. 

 Professor Christy said an explosion of the number of weather stations in the US and around the world had made historical comparisons difficult because some stations only went back a few years; meanwhile, creeping urbanization had subjected existing weather stations to additional heat. “In Houston, for example, in the centre it is now between 6 and 9 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the surrounding countryside,” he explained in an interview with The Australian.

 Professor Christy, conceding a slight warming trend over the last 45 years, said July could be the warmest month on record based on global temperatures measured by satellites – “just edging out 1998” – but such measures only went back to 1979.
 

The establishment only considers it "misinformation" when it says something they don't want the public to hear.

RedheadedStranger » 04 Aug 2023, 7:03 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:03 am

The establishment only considers it "misinformation" when it says something they don't want the public to hear.

What gets me is that these "science writers" inject the MOST HYPERBOLIC claims in their writing and NONE OF IT is backed up by the actual SCIENCE.

MODELS are not reality, but PROJECTIONS and TO DATE, none of them have been accurate OR ANYWHERE CLOSE to reality.

But these LWNJs fully believe EVERY WORD THEY WRITE, no matter HOW MUCH YOU PROVE THEM DEAD *** WRONG!!

Beekeeper » 04 Aug 2023, 7:11 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:11 am

What gets me is that these "science writers" inject the MOST HYPERBOLIC claims in their writing and NONE OF IT is backed up by the actual SCIENCE.

MODELS are not reality, but PROJECTIONS and TO DATE, none of them have been accurate OR ANYWHERE CLOSE to reality.

But these LWNJs fully believe EVERY WORD THEY WRITE, no matter HOW MUCH YOU PROVE THEM DEAD *** WRONG!!

Yep.

I love the headlines that state something like "U.S. West Sweltering under unprecedented heatwave!" and then when you read the story you find out that they are referring to a 100 year old record temp being broken by 1.2 degrees... on a single day.

It's just like with inflation as well... an increase of 6% is called a "bump" yet a decrease of .2% is "plummeting".

And the masses just nod along compliantly.


 

Beekeeper » 04 Aug 2023, 6:51 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 6:51 am

It's more like MANIPULATION OF THE LWNJ LEMMINGS!!!

Via The Australian:

Cliff Mass, professor of Atmospheric Sciences at University of Washington, said the public was being “misinformed on a massive scale”: “It‘s terrible. I think it’s a disaster. There’s a stunning amount of exaggeration and hype of extreme weather and heatwaves, and it’s very counter-productive,” he told The Australian in an interview. “I’m not a contrarian. I‘m pretty mainstream in a very large [academic] department, and I think most of these claims are unfounded and problematic”. …

 Professor Mass said the climate was “radically warmer” around 1000 years ago during what’s known as the Medieval Warm Period, when agriculture thrived in parts of now ice-covered Greenland. “If you really go back far enough there were swamps near the North Pole, and the other thing to keep in mind is that we‘re coming out of a cold period, a Little Ice Age from roughly 1600 to 1850”.

 #

 John Christy, a professor of Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Alabama at Huntsville, said heatwaves in the first half of the 20th century were at least as intense as those of more recent decades based on consistent, long-term weather stations going back over a century. “I haven‘t seen anything yet this summer that’s an all-time record for these long-term stations, 1936 still holds by far the record for the most number of stations with the hottest-ever temperatures,” he told The Australian, referring to the year of a great heatwave in North America that killed thousands. 

 Professor Christy said an explosion of the number of weather stations in the US and around the world had made historical comparisons difficult because some stations only went back a few years; meanwhile, creeping urbanization had subjected existing weather stations to additional heat. “In Houston, for example, in the centre it is now between 6 and 9 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the surrounding countryside,” he explained in an interview with The Australian.

 Professor Christy, conceding a slight warming trend over the last 45 years, said July could be the warmest month on record based on global temperatures measured by satellites – “just edging out 1998” – but such measures only went back to 1979.

       
 

RedheadedStranger » 04 Aug 2023, 7:30 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:30 am

Yep.

I love the headlines that state something like "U.S. West Sweltering under unprecedented heatwave!" and then when you read the story you find out that they are referring to a 100 year old record temp being broken by 1.2 degrees... on a single day.

It's just like with inflation as well... an increase of 6% is called a "bump" yet a decrease of .2% is "plummeting".

And the masses just nod along compliantly.

The media today is NO LONGER about reporting the who, what, when, where, and HOW, but more about interjecting OPINION AND HYPERBOLE in order to get ratings and even sales.

"Climate science" is the ABJECT WORST of the bunch when it comes to being FACTUAL in nature. It's all about pushing an AGENDA AND CONTROL over everyone's life and desires being destroyed along with the FREEDOM we are supposed to exercise and enjoy in this nation.

Sadly, these LWNJs demand MORE OF IT and don't have a CLUE that they are giving up their very ability to determine their OWN DIRECTION IN LIFE. I have to fully assume they desire ZERO control over their own life and would rather GOVERNMENT dictate their outcome.

 

Beekeeper » 04 Aug 2023, 7:11 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:11 am

What gets me is that these "science writers" inject the MOST HYPERBOLIC claims in their writing and NONE OF IT is backed up by the actual SCIENCE.

MODELS are not reality, but PROJECTIONS and TO DATE, none of them have been accurate OR ANYWHERE CLOSE to reality.

But these LWNJs fully believe EVERY WORD THEY WRITE, no matter HOW MUCH YOU PROVE THEM DEAD *** WRONG!!

It is backed up by propaganda, lots of it.. it's part of the great reset, you better not question the science or you will be branded a climate change denier and you won't be happy when you own nothing...

 

The “War on Climate Change” is coming…again

They have been doing this for years.

So far it has not worked.

 …but this time might be a little different.

Why? Because we now live in a post-Covid society.
 
 

Beekeeper » 04 Aug 2023, 6:51 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 6:51 am

It's more like MANIPULATION OF THE LWNJ LEMMINGS!!!

Via The Australian:

Cliff Mass, professor of Atmospheric Sciences at University of Washington, said the public was being “misinformed on a massive scale”: “It‘s terrible. I think it’s a disaster. There’s a stunning amount of exaggeration and hype of extreme weather and heatwaves, and it’s very counter-productive,” he told The Australian in an interview. “I’m not a contrarian. I‘m pretty mainstream in a very large [academic] department, and I think most of these claims are unfounded and problematic”. …

 Professor Mass said the climate was “radically warmer” around 1000 years ago during what’s known as the Medieval Warm Period, when agriculture thrived in parts of now ice-covered Greenland. “If you really go back far enough there were swamps near the North Pole, and the other thing to keep in mind is that we‘re coming out of a cold period, a Little Ice Age from roughly 1600 to 1850”.

 #

 John Christy, a professor of Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Alabama at Huntsville, said heatwaves in the first half of the 20th century were at least as intense as those of more recent decades based on consistent, long-term weather stations going back over a century. “I haven‘t seen anything yet this summer that’s an all-time record for these long-term stations, 1936 still holds by far the record for the most number of stations with the hottest-ever temperatures,” he told The Australian, referring to the year of a great heatwave in North America that killed thousands. 

 Professor Christy said an explosion of the number of weather stations in the US and around the world had made historical comparisons difficult because some stations only went back a few years; meanwhile, creeping urbanization had subjected existing weather stations to additional heat. “In Houston, for example, in the centre it is now between 6 and 9 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the surrounding countryside,” he explained in an interview with The Australian.

 Professor Christy, conceding a slight warming trend over the last 45 years, said July could be the warmest month on record based on global temperatures measured by satellites – “just edging out 1998” – but such measures only went back to 1979.

Politicians who cause a panic by claiming the things they do should be indicted.

Squatchman » 04 Aug 2023, 7:31 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:31 am

     

Still using your finger to wipe your own *** is obvious, cocksuck!!!

Yeah, that is pretty funny when you have to EAT THAT **** off your finger!!

roadkill » 04 Aug 2023, 7:55 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:55 am

Politicians who cause a panic by claiming the things they do should be indicted.

Once POLITICS becomes interjected into ANY SCIENCE, that science is CONTAMINATED and no longer valid or pure science.

Sadly, these LWNJs fail to see that simple reality.

 
 
 

You deniers just keep denying then grab your wallets as inflation will go beyond reality then keep a box of facial tissue nearby as you become the cry baby whiners about global warming climate change .

Beekeeper » 04 Aug 2023, 7:11 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:11 am

What gets me is that these "science writers" inject the MOST HYPERBOLIC claims in their writing and NONE OF IT is backed up by the actual SCIENCE.

MODELS are not reality, but PROJECTIONS and TO DATE, none of them have been accurate OR ANYWHERE CLOSE to reality.

But these LWNJs fully believe EVERY WORD THEY WRITE, no matter HOW MUCH YOU PROVE THEM DEAD *** WRONG!!

Democ rats are anti-science. 

They sate themselves on science fiction from the MSM. 

Actual science is available to any and all who will seek it out - no filters, no go-betweens.

But most do not know how to find it and do not wish to learn.
 
 

roadkill » 04 Aug 2023, 7:55 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 7:55 am

Politicians who cause a panic by claiming the things they do should be indicted.

Such as ?

Evidence is always lacking whereas BS rhetoric is always on overload ...........

razoo » 04 Aug 2023, 2:04 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 2:04 pm

Such as ?

Evidence is always lacking whereas BS rhetoric is always on overload ...........

Yer the expert at posting BS...cause yer a child just like benson was.     

razoo » 04 Aug 2023, 1:37 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 1:37 pm

You deniers just keep denying then grab your wallets as inflation will go beyond reality then keep a box of facial tissue nearby as you become the cry baby whiners about global warming climate change .

Oh, so your stupid enough to believe that the inflation rate suddenly skyrockets almost immediately after Biden takes office because of the hoax of "climate change", and NOT due to the fact that your idiot cut oil production and installed piles of new regulations on the oil industry that raised gas prices to triple what they were under Trump?
Was it climate change that wasted trillions of dollars on your idiotic windmills, solar panels, and electric cars or was that Biden's doing?
Was it climate change that raised taxes on the country and killed the economic boom that Trump had created?
So tell us, genius. AT WHAT POINT IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD DID THE CLIMATE NOT CHANGE?

Tell us, nitwit.  Which are the proclamations of fools like you who are gullible enough to believe such **** WHEN NOT A SINGLE PREDICTION THEY MADE HAS COME TRUE IN THE PAST 50 YEARS?

Go ahead and list all those predictions, starting with your billionaire hoax monger Gore from the 1970's!
We'll wait right here, OK jackass?
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Aug 2023, 1:41 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 1:41 pm

Democ rats are anti-science. 

They sate themselves on science fiction from the MSM. 

Actual science is available to any and all who will seek it out - no filters, no go-betweens.

But most do not know how to find it and do not wish to learn.

Exactly.

They don't realize that the REAL SCIENTISTS that produce actual papers on climate, 97% of them have NEVER stated that CO2 is the cause of ANY warming. Yes, that other 3% gets the spotlight because it fits the LWNJ narrative.

Besides, these Democrat idiots aren't anywhere close to smart enough to be able to actually READ and interpret any real scientific paper, which explains how easy these "science writers" are able to MANIPULATE their moronic asses.

Lets assume that it is the hottest month on record.. It is one data point. If the importance of that escapes you.. you are hopeless.

impartialobserver » 04 Aug 2023, 5:20 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 5:20 pm

Lets assume that it is the hottest month on record.. It is one data point. If the importance of that escapes you.. you are hopeless.

The CAUSE is what seems to escape the LWNJs. And it ISN'T due to CO2 or anything "manmade".

The current heat wave is being relentlessly blamed on increasing levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, but there is a much more plausible explanation, one that is virtually endorsed by two of the world’s leading scientific organizations. It turns out that levels of water vapor in the atmosphere have dramatically increased over the last year-and-a-half, and water vapor is well recognized as a greenhouse gas, whose heightened presence leads to higher temperatures, a mechanism that dwarfs any effect CO2 may have.

 So, why has atmospheric water vapor increased so dramatically? Because of a historic, gigantic volcanic eruption last year that I – probably along with you — had never heard of. The mass media ignored it because it took place 490 feet underwater in the South Pacific. Don’t take it from me, take it from NASA (and please do follow the link to see time lapse satellite imagery of the underwater eruption and subsequent plume of gasses and water injected into the atmosphere):

 
still from the time lapse photos 

When the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai volcano erupted on Jan. 15, it sent a tsunami racing around the world and set off a sonic boom that circled the globe twice. The underwater eruption in the South Pacific Ocean also blasted an enormous plume of water vapor into Earth’s stratosphere – enough to fill more than 58,000 Olympic-size swimming pools. The sheer amount of water vapor could be enough to temporarily affect Earth’s global average temperature.

 “We’ve never seen anything like it,” said Luis Millán, an atmospheric scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California. He led a new study examining the amount of water vapor that the Tonga volcano injected into the stratosphere, the layer of the atmosphere between about 8 and 33 miles (12 and 53 kilometers) above Earth’s surface.

[...]

In the study, published in Geophysical Research Letters, Millán and his colleagues estimate that the Tonga eruption sent around 146 teragrams (1 teragram equals a trillion grams) of water vapor into Earth’s stratosphere – equal to 10% of the water already present in that atmospheric layer. That’s nearly four times the amount of water vapor that scientists estimate the 1991 Mount Pinatubo eruption in the Philippines lofted into the stratosphere. [emphases added]

 

And since we KNOW that WATER VAPOR is by far the STRONGEST and most prevalent "greenhouse gas", this is the REASON for the temps. And that too will GO AWAY once this vapor condenses out of the atmosphere as winter comes around. It will LIKELY cause heavier than normal snowfalls all over the nation.

Sucks that SCIENCE puts the CLAIMS to the SCRAPE HEAP OF ****!!

Oh, and @razoo  , it would be in your best interest to READ SOME ACTUAL SCIENCE instead of your LWNJ ****...see above.;

How about these facts.

I’m not convinced climate change is caused by man. I think the earth is too many billions of years old, and we are too small, to change the climate on purpose if we tried.

The only real scientists that agree with me are oil company whores paid to say it, and outright babbling fools that still think there’s something suspicious about Obama’s birth certificate and Brandon is a baby raping master crime boss.

The temperatures are what they are.

I don’t believe men cause the changes.

But I’m supported by a crazy bunch of right wingers who if they are right it will be the first time they were right about anything