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Bruce » 05 Aug 2023, 5:55 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 5:55 am

How about these facts.

I’m not convinced climate change is caused by man. I think the earth is too many billions of years old, and we are too small, to change the climate on purpose if we tried.

The only real scientists that agree with me are oil company whores paid to say it, and outright babbling fools that still think there’s something suspicious about Obama’s birth certificate and Brandon is a baby raping master crime boss.

The temperatures are what they are.

I don’t believe men cause the changes.

But I’m supported by a crazy bunch of right wingers who if they are right it will be the first time they were right about anything

Like the monkey playing with a typewriter and out comes "Hamlet".

The annoying thing is the everlasting opinion posting from ignoramuses who mouth science but are driven by ideology which is anti-science.

Bruce » 05 Aug 2023, 5:55 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 5:55 am

How about these facts.

I’m not convinced climate change is caused by man. I think the earth is too many billions of years old, and we are too small, to change the climate on purpose if we tried.

The only real scientists that agree with me are oil company whores paid to say it, and outright babbling fools that still think there’s something suspicious about Obama’s birth certificate and Brandon is a baby raping master crime boss.

The temperatures are what they are.

I don’t believe men cause the changes.

But I’m supported by a crazy bunch of right wingers who if they are right it will be the first time they were right about anything

Many scientists are concluding that this year’s higher-than-average temperatures have more to do with an excess of H2O in the atmosphere — not CO2.“Unlike previous strong eruptions, this event may not cool the surface, but rather it could potentially warm the surface due to the excess water vapor,” said a study from scientists at NASA and NOAA.

jack » 05 Aug 2023, 7:36 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 7:36 am

Like the monkey playing with a typewriter and out comes "Hamlet".

The annoying thing is the everlasting opinion posting from ignoramuses who mouth science but are driven by ideology which is anti-science.

Many scientists are concluding that this year’s higher-than-average temperatures have more to do with an excess of H2O in the atmosphere — not CO2.“Unlike previous strong eruptions, this event may not cool the surface, but rather it could potentially warm the surface due to the excess water vapor,” said a study from scientists at NASA and NOAA.

Cannonpointer » 04 Aug 2023, 1:41 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 1:41 pm

Democ rats are anti-science. 

They sate themselves on science fiction from the MSM. 

Actual science is available to any and all who will seek it out - no filters, no go-betweens.

But most do not know how to find it and do not wish to learn.

Right wingers are anti-common language.

They sate themselves on insult lingo. They sate themselves on ideological group-think that goes with their dumbed down language.

Actual science is not available to them. They haven't the interest or the discipline to go near it, being sated on what is group-fed to them.

Accordingly, most haven't a clue how to find it, couldn't find it if they tried, and would fear to learn it if it came to them.

 

jack » 05 Aug 2023, 9:35 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 9:35 am

Right wingers are anti-common language.

They sate themselves on insult lingo. They sate themselves on ideological group-think that goes with their dumbed down language.

Actual science is not available to them. They haven't the interest or the discipline to go near it, being sated on what is group-fed to them.

Accordingly, most haven't a clue how to find it, couldn't find it if they tried, and would fear to learn it if it came to them.

I'm your huckleberry, little fruit. 

I'll go out on a limb. YOU CANNOT POST ONE PEER REVIEWED SCIENCE ARTICLE implicating human action as a primary driver in climate change.

Put up or shut up, dick sucker - you've been served.
 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 05 Aug 2023, 1:58 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 1:58 pm

I'm your huckleberry, little fruit. 

I'll go out on a limb. YOU CANNOT POST ONE PEER REVIEWED SCIENCE ARTICLE implicating human action as a primary driver in climate change.

Put up or shut up, dick sucker - you've been served.

jack can't do it...cause his last name is "off".        

Beekeeper » 04 Aug 2023, 6:51 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 6:51 am

It's more like MANIPULATION OF THE LWNJ LEMMINGS!!!

Via The Australian:

Cliff Mass, professor of Atmospheric Sciences at University of Washington, said the public was being “misinformed on a massive scale”: “It‘s terrible. I think it’s a disaster. There’s a stunning amount of exaggeration and hype of extreme weather and heatwaves, and it’s very counter-productive,” he told The Australian in an interview. “I’m not a contrarian. I‘m pretty mainstream in a very large [academic] department, and I think most of these claims are unfounded and problematic”. …

 Professor Mass said the climate was “radically warmer” around 1000 years ago during what’s known as the Medieval Warm Period, when agriculture thrived in parts of now ice-covered Greenland. “If you really go back far enough there were swamps near the North Pole, and the other thing to keep in mind is that we‘re coming out of a cold period, a Little Ice Age from roughly 1600 to 1850”.

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 John Christy, a professor of Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Alabama at Huntsville, said heatwaves in the first half of the 20th century were at least as intense as those of more recent decades based on consistent, long-term weather stations going back over a century. “I haven‘t seen anything yet this summer that’s an all-time record for these long-term stations, 1936 still holds by far the record for the most number of stations with the hottest-ever temperatures,” he told The Australian, referring to the year of a great heatwave in North America that killed thousands. 

 Professor Christy said an explosion of the number of weather stations in the US and around the world had made historical comparisons difficult because some stations only went back a few years; meanwhile, creeping urbanization had subjected existing weather stations to additional heat. “In Houston, for example, in the centre it is now between 6 and 9 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the surrounding countryside,” he explained in an interview with The Australian.

 Professor Christy, conceding a slight warming trend over the last 45 years, said July could be the warmest month on record based on global temperatures measured by satellites – “just edging out 1998” – but such measures only went back to 1979.

This Top Climate Scientist EXCEPT is slinging BS.
 

Global Warming 101 - Definition, Facts, Causes and Effects ...
Natural Resources Defense Council
https://www.nrdc.org › stories › global-warming-101
Mar 11, 2016 — A: Global warming occurs when carbon dioxide (CO2) and other air pollutants collect in the atmosphere and absorb sunlight and solar radiation ...
‎Climate Change · ‎Hurricanes and Climate Change · ‎Climate Adaptation · ‎Solutions

=========================================================

What Is Climate Change?
https://www.nrdc.org › stories › what-climate-change
Sep 1, 2021 — Forces that can contribute to climate change include the sun's intensity, volcanic eruptions, and changes in naturally occurring greenhouse gas ...

==========================================================

Causes of climate change
European Commission
https://climate.ec.europa.eu › climate-change › causes-...
Burning fossil fuels, cutting down forests and farming livestock are increasingly influencing the clim

=============================================================

Climate change: evidence and causes
Royal Society
https://royalsociety.org › basics-of-climate-change
Climate change • Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns, mainly caused by human activities, especially the burning of ...
‎Greenhouse Gases Affect... · ‎Human Activities Have Added... · ‎Climate Records Show A...

=============================================================

Global Warming FAQ
Union of Concerned Scientists
https://www.ucsusa.org › resources › global-warming-...
Jul 16, 2008 — The primary cause of global warming is human activity that releases carbon into the atmosphere, most significantly the burning of fossil ...

=============================================================

Causes of climate change
Met Office
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk › weather › causes-of-cl...
The evidence is clear: the main cause of climate change is burning fossil fuels such as oil, gas, and coal. When burnt, fossil fuels release carbon dioxide into ...

==============================================================

Climate change impacts
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (.gov)
https://www.noaa.gov › education › resource-collections
Aug 13, 2021 — The impacts of climate change on different sectors of society are interrelated. Drought can harm food production and human health. Flooding can ...
‎A Complex Issue · ‎Human Health · ‎The Environment

razoo » 05 Aug 2023, 2:44 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 2:44 pm

This Top Climate Scientist EXCEPT is slinging BS.

Oh, so since it doesn't fit your NARRATIVE it all of a sudden is ****?? FACTS over FEELINGS, bozoo and that means YOU LOSE!!

That has to suck massively for you, huh??

Yes the humans could make a difference IF:

We cut back on driving by say 50% ......

And we drive cars that get 50 mpg for everyday driving.......

Or choose to drive golf cart type vehicles to run errands in the "city".

And we turn off as much electricity every day as possible

And we choose to push for:

razoo » 05 Aug 2023, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 2:51 pm

Global Warming 101 - Definition, Facts, Causes and Effects ...
Natural Resources Defense Council
https://www.nrdc.org › stories › global-warming-101
Mar 11, 2016 — A: Global warming occurs when carbon dioxide (CO2) and other air pollutants collect in the atmosphere and absorb sunlight and solar radiation ...
‎Climate Change · ‎Hurricanes and Climate Change · ‎Climate Adaptation · ‎Solutions

=========================================================

What Is Climate Change?
https://www.nrdc.org › stories › what-climate-change
Sep 1, 2021 — Forces that can contribute to climate change include the sun's intensity, volcanic eruptions, and changes in naturally occurring greenhouse gas ...

==========================================================

Causes of climate change
European Commission
https://climate.ec.europa.eu › climate-change › causes-...
Burning fossil fuels, cutting down forests and farming livestock are increasingly influencing the clim

=============================================================

Climate change: evidence and causes
Royal Society
https://royalsociety.org › basics-of-climate-change
Climate change • Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns, mainly caused by human activities, especially the burning of ...
‎Greenhouse Gases Affect... · ‎Human Activities Have Added... · ‎Climate Records Show A...

=============================================================

Global Warming FAQ
Union of Concerned Scientists
https://www.ucsusa.org › resources › global-warming-...
Jul 16, 2008 — The primary cause of global warming is human activity that releases carbon into the atmosphere, most significantly the burning of fossil ...

=============================================================

Causes of climate change
Met Office
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk › weather › causes-of-cl...
The evidence is clear: the main cause of climate change is burning fossil fuels such as oil, gas, and coal. When burnt, fossil fuels release carbon dioxide into ...

==============================================================

Climate change impacts
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (.gov)
https://www.noaa.gov › education › resource-collections
Aug 13, 2021 — The impacts of climate change on different sectors of society are interrelated. Drought can harm food production and human health. Flooding can ...
‎A Complex Issue · ‎Human Health · ‎The Environment

So explain how a VOLCANO that erupted 497 feet UNDERWATER and caused an equivalent of 57,000 OLYMPIC SWIMMING POOLS OF WATER VAPOR in the atmosphere that is causing the "warming" of today??? Which happened LAST YEAR. Seeing how WATER VAPOR is THE strongest and most consequential GREENHOUSE GAS KNOWN TO MAN??

HOW is that anything YOU OR YOUR LITTLE BUDDY WUDDIES CAN CONTROL???

No, ****, it's NOT CO2, as that is the MOST MINOR of all greenhouse gases. THE MOST MINOR, did you get that one??

razoo » 05 Aug 2023, 2:55 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 2:55 pm

Yes the humans could make a difference IF:

We cut back on driving by say 50% ......

And we drive cars that get 50 mpg for everyday driving.......

Or choose to drive golf cart type vehicles to run errands in the "city".

And we turn off as much electricity every day as possible

And we choose to push for:

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/file ... n-1041.gif
 
See THAT ****?? THERE's YOUR "globull warming" that YOU and your little **** MANTRA can't control, which is PRECISELY why MAN CANNOT CONTROL THE CLIMATE!!

razoo » 05 Aug 2023, 2:55 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 2:55 pm

Yes the humans could make a difference IF:

We cut back on driving by say 50% ......

And we drive cars that get 50 mpg for everyday driving.......

Or choose to drive golf cart type vehicles to run errands in the "city".

And we turn off as much electricity every day as possible

And we choose to push for:

Phasing out coal and nuke and cut way back on Natural Gas

 Put These Five major renewable energy sources as the priority:

• Solar energy from the sun.
• Geothermal energy from heat inside the earth.
• Wind energy.
• Biomass from plants.
• Hydropower from flowing water.

https://www.eia.gov › energyexplained › sources-of-ener...
 
 

Most of our energy is nonrenewable
In the United States and many other countries, most energy sources for doing work are nonrenewable energy sources:

Petroleum
Hydrocarbon gas liquids
Natural gas
Coal
Nuclear energy

These energy sources are called nonrenewable because their supplies are limited to the amounts that we can mine or extract from the earth. Coal, natural gas, and petroleum formed over thousands of years from the buried remains of ancient sea plants and animals that lived millions of years ago. That is why we also call those energy sources fossil fuels.

Most of the petroleum products consumed in the United States are made from crude oil, but petroleum liquids can also be made from natural gas and coal.

Nuclear energy is produced from uranium, a nonrenewable energy source whose atoms are split (through a process called nuclear fission) to create heat and, eventually, electricity. Scientists think uranium was created billions of years ago when stars formed. Uranium is found throughout the earth’s crust, but most of it is too difficult or too expensive to mine and process into fuel for nuclear power plants.

The major types or sources of renewable energy are:

Solar energy from the sun
Geothermal energy from heat inside the earth
Wind energy
Biomass from plants
Hydropower from flowing water

They are called renewable energy sources because they are naturally replenished. Day after day, the sun shines, plants grow, wind blows, and rivers flow.

Renewable energy was the main energy source for most of human history.

Throughout most of human history, biomass from plants was the main energy source, which was burned for heat and to feed animals used for transportation and plowing.

Nonrenewable sources began replacing most of renewable energy use in the United States in the early 1800s, and by the early-1900s, fossil fuels were the main sources of energy.

Use of biomass for heating homes remained a source of energy but mainly in rural areas and for supplemental heat in urban areas. In the mid-1980s, use of biomass and other forms of renewable energy began increasing largely because of incentives for their use, especially for electricity generation.

Many countries are working to increase renewable energy use as a way to help reduce and avoid carbon dioxide emissions.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/wha ... energy.php

 
 

razoo » 05 Aug 2023, 3:01 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 3:01 pm

Phasing out coal and nuke and cut way back on Natural Gas

 Put These Five major renewable energy sources as the priority:

• Solar energy from the sun.
• Geothermal energy from heat inside the earth.
• Wind energy.
• Biomass from plants.
• Hydropower from flowing water.

https://www.eia.gov › energyexplained › sources-of-ener...

One TINY little problem there ****!!!

NONE of those can provide 100% RELIABLE ENERGY WHEN NEEDED!!! NOT A SINGLE ONE!!!

So you advocate DESTROYING our nations ECONOMIC ENGINE with totally UNRELIABLE ENERGY SOURCE(S) and allow other nations like India and China to RULE THE WORLD since they are telling the WORLD TO **** OFF RIGHT NOW and using RELIABLE ENERGY LIKE COAL AND NAT GAS!!

So you admit you are a **** MORON,  AGAIN!!

razoo » 05 Aug 2023, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 3:05 pm

Most of our energy is nonrenewable
In the United States and many other countries, most energy sources for doing work are nonrenewable energy sources:

Petroleum
Hydrocarbon gas liquids
Natural gas
Coal
Nuclear energy

These energy sources are called nonrenewable because their supplies are limited to the amounts that we can mine or extract from the earth. Coal, natural gas, and petroleum formed over thousands of years from the buried remains of ancient sea plants and animals that lived millions of years ago. That is why we also call those energy sources fossil fuels.

Most of the petroleum products consumed in the United States are made from crude oil, but petroleum liquids can also be made from natural gas and coal.

Nuclear energy is produced from uranium, a nonrenewable energy source whose atoms are split (through a process called nuclear fission) to create heat and, eventually, electricity. Scientists think uranium was created billions of years ago when stars formed. Uranium is found throughout the earth’s crust, but most of it is too difficult or too expensive to mine and process into fuel for nuclear power plants.

The major types or sources of renewable energy are:

Solar energy from the sun
Geothermal energy from heat inside the earth
Wind energy
Biomass from plants
Hydropower from flowing water

They are called renewable energy sources because they are naturally replenished. Day after day, the sun shines, plants grow, wind blows, and rivers flow.

Renewable energy was the main energy source for most of human history.

Throughout most of human history, biomass from plants was the main energy source, which was burned for heat and to feed animals used for transportation and plowing.

Nonrenewable sources began replacing most of renewable energy use in the United States in the early 1800s, and by the early-1900s, fossil fuels were the main sources of energy.

Use of biomass for heating homes remained a source of energy but mainly in rural areas and for supplemental heat in urban areas. In the mid-1980s, use of biomass and other forms of renewable energy began increasing largely because of incentives for their use, especially for electricity generation.

Many countries are working to increase renewable energy use as a way to help reduce and avoid carbon dioxide emissions.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/wha ... energy.php

         

Beekeeper » 05 Aug 2023, 3:07 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 3:07 pm

One TINY little problem there ****!!!

NONE of those can provide 100% RELIABLE ENERGY WHEN NEEDED!!! NOT A SINGLE ONE!!!

So you advocate DESTROYING our nations ECONOMIC ENGINE with totally UNRELIABLE ENERGY SOURCE(S) and allow other nations like India and China to RULE THE WORLD since they are telling the WORLD TO **** OFF RIGHT NOW and using RELIABLE ENERGY LIKE COAL AND NAT GAS!!

So you admit you are a **** MORON,  AGAIN!!

THAT is why 5 are suggested  ............. all of them are in place here and there as we speak ............. 

Radioactive waste sucks and can live thousands of years all RadioActive fly ash from coal ie quite dangerous ......... so we keep HYDRO POWER plus 4 other sources.

The major types or sources of renewable energy are:

Solar energy from the sun
Geothermal energy from heat inside the earth
Wind energy
Biomass from plants
Hydropower from flowing water

They are called renewable energy sources because they are naturally replenished. Day after day, the sun shines, plants grow, wind blows, and rivers flow.

Renewable energy was the main energy source for most of human history.

Throughout most of human history, biomass from plants was the main energy source, which was burned for heat and to feed animals used for transportation and plowing.

Nonrenewable sources began replacing most of renewable energy use in the United States in the early 1800s, and by the early-1900s, fossil fuels were the main sources of energy.

Use of biomass for heating homes remained a source of energy but mainly in rural areas and for supplemental heat in urban areas. In the mid-1980s, use of biomass and other forms of renewable energy began increasing largely because of incentives for their use, especially for electricity generation.

Many countries are working to increase renewable energy use as a way to help reduce and avoid carbon dioxide emissions.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/wha ... energy.php

razoo » 05 Aug 2023, 3:12 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 3:12 pm

The major types or sources of renewable energy are:

Solar energy from the sun
Geothermal energy from heat inside the earth
Wind energy
Biomass from plants
Hydropower from flowing water

They are called renewable energy sources because they are naturally replenished. Day after day, the sun shines, plants grow, wind blows, and rivers flow.

Renewable energy was the main energy source for most of human history.

Throughout most of human history, biomass from plants was the main energy source, which was burned for heat and to feed animals used for transportation and plowing.

Nonrenewable sources began replacing most of renewable energy use in the United States in the early 1800s, and by the early-1900s, fossil fuels were the main sources of energy.

Use of biomass for heating homes remained a source of energy but mainly in rural areas and for supplemental heat in urban areas. In the mid-1980s, use of biomass and other forms of renewable energy began increasing largely because of incentives for their use, especially for electricity generation.

Many countries are working to increase renewable energy use as a way to help reduce and avoid carbon dioxide emissions.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/wha ... energy.php

Oil is the second most abundant fluid on earth. Scarcity is a marketing lie. We are not going to run out. 
 

Cannonpointer » 05 Aug 2023, 1:58 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 1:58 pm

I'm your huckleberry, little fruit. 

I'll go out on a limb. YOU CANNOT POST ONE PEER REVIEWED SCIENCE ARTICLE implicating human action as a primary driver in climate change.

Put up or shut up, dick sucker - you've been served.

For all I know online there aren't any with reviews attached. What of it? We both know the science is out there,  been accumulating for years, accepted by every or almost every science academy in the world. So, not playing the game.

Enjoy the limb, and your dick.