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NOTHING IS OFF LIMITS IN THE JAN 6TH TRUMP INDICTMENT TRIAL = we'll have to wait for the evidence
NOTHING IS OFF LIMITS IN THE JAN 6TH TRUMP INDICTMENT TRIAL = we'll have to wait for the evidence
By razoo
5 Aug 2023 6:01 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
7 Aug 2023 5:15 am
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May 30, 2023 — In January of this year, Barnett was convicted on eight charges, including obstructing Congress' Jan. 6 proceedings as well as disorderly ...
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7 Aug 2023 5:46 am
So NO LAW you can find that was broken with an ALTERNATIVE slate of electors!!jerrab » 06 Aug 2023, 4:15 pm » wrote: ↑ -------------------------------------------------
https://takecareblog.com/blog/how-to-de ... ors-part-2
That was the right outcome, though there is a sense in which the procedure feels disorderly. After all, when the Democratic electors voted on December 19, there was nothing official appointing them—there was only the possibility that their votes might be needed if the recount went their way. And then when Congress counted the electoral votes on January 6, it had before it competing certificates both of which, at a moment in time, carried the imprimatur of the Governor of Hawaii.
So easy to kick your MORONIC ***!!
7 Aug 2023 5:47 am
So you have ZERO LAWS that make an ALTERNATIVE SLATE OF ELECTORS a crime.jerrab » 06 Aug 2023, 3:02 pm » wrote: ↑ the law did not say fake electors but state electors appointed by the state
So easy.
7 Aug 2023 7:20 am
OH, and ****, it's NOT AGAINST ANY LAW to contest the results of ANY ELECTION by any means.jerrab » 06 Aug 2023, 3:02 pm » wrote: ↑ the law did not say fake electors but state electors appointed by the state
Seems you DEMOCRATS are good at contesting them in ANY MANNER you want, but when Republicans do it, you want to make it a crime.
**** OFF, ****.
7 Aug 2023 7:58 am
Speaking of quagmires, the above is one.JustinSane » 06 Aug 2023, 3:20 am » wrote: ↑ It seems to me, the best outcome you could hope for, is this gets dismissed. I don't think there is any possible way at that point in time, Trump could've known the election wasn't stolen. How could he possibly have established that amongst the sheer quantities of information that exist in the chaos after an election? - the truth is, no one could and no one did. There's no way of instantaneously demonstrating the truth one way or the other. There were highly concerning anomalies surrounding the election, which Trump quite rightly reacted to and wanted properly investigating. For those of us who don't worship at the alter of Dumb Lemon, we still don't know it wasn't stolen - it's far from being the established, settled fact MSNBCNN would like you to think it is
Which leads to point 1 in the trial. You're going to have to demonstrate it actually wasn't stolen - if you can't, then the question of proving anyone knew it wasn't stolen becomes a logical impossibility. Pro-tip, anyone involved, whether in a primary, secondary or tertiary fashion will be dead of boredom or old-age, long before this question is resolved to a satisfactory, evidentiary standard
Point 2) Assuming you get through point 1, you're then going to have to demonstrate that Trump actually knew it wasn't stolen in that period right after the election. Well that's a total bloody nonsense since you're probably going to spend decades in this court case, establishing it wasn't stolen (the onus is on your side), and will, in all likelihood, fail to do so. But either way, the sheer colossal complexity of demonstrating point 1, innately demonstrates that point 2 (Trump knew it wasn't stolen), couldn't possibly have been the case at any point in time
Point 3) This is an excellent opportunity to actually bring to light and properly litigate all of those concerns and anomalies that got pushed aside - which combined, will pretty much destroy the possibility of point 1 and point 2 ever being established. Without point 1 and 2, there simply is no case against Trump. Even having established those, you then have to get past presidential immunity and Trump's own constitutional rights. Jack ****, has fabricated his very own quagmire.
Trump isn't accused of "knowing the election wasn't stolen". He's charged with pushing specific lies that it was stolen, lies that have had damaging consequences for the country. In addition, he's charged with obstructing an official proceeding, which does not bear on anything he may have known or not known.
7 Aug 2023 8:06 am
not ones that are not approvedBeekeeper » 07 Aug 2023, 5:46 am » wrote: ↑ So NO LAW you can find that was broken with an ALTERNATIVE slate of electors!!
So easy to kick your MORONIC ***!!
7 Aug 2023 8:07 am
Since the election was stolen, your arguments ring hollow.....echo chamber boy.jack » 07 Aug 2023, 7:58 am » wrote: ↑ Speaking of quagmires, the above is one.
Trump isn't accused of "knowing the election wasn't stolen". He's charged with pushing specific lies that it was stolen, lies that have had damaging consequences for the country. In addition, he's charged with obstructing an official proceeding, which does not bear on anything he may have known or not known.
7 Aug 2023 11:32 am
You saying so doesn't prove anything.
SO YOU CAN FIND NO LAW THAT MAKES THAT ALTERNATIVE SLATE OF ELECTORS BEING ILLEGAL!!!
YOU LOSE!! again!!
7 Aug 2023 12:57 pm
not if they are not okay'd by the governor.Beekeeper » 07 Aug 2023, 11:32 am » wrote: ↑ You saying so doesn't prove anything.
SO YOU CAN FIND NO LAW THAT MAKES THAT ALTERNATIVE SLATE OF ELECTORS BEING ILLEGAL!!!
YOU LOSE!! again!!
7 Aug 2023 1:15 pm
Psssst. ****.
The GOVERNOR has NO "approval" of any slate of electors. Are you THAT dense to know that the CONSTITUTION calls for the State's LEGISLATURE to approve a slate of electors??
Keep digging. It's so much fun watching you BURY YOURSELF in your OWN STUPID that we get a MASSIVE belly laugh at you CONSTANTLY!!
Besides, the ONLY slate of electors presented TO CONGRESS was the ones sent by the State's legislatures. Seems once AGAIN, you have ZERO CLUE about the FACTS and why there IS NO CRIME to present an ALTERNATIVE slate of electors before a State legislature
Even Gore attempted to do that in the 2000 race in Florida you STUPID **** IDIOT!! HE TOO had the State Democrat party select an ALTERNATE SET OF ELECTORS as the recount was ongoing. Yeah, cucky, it happened. So why didn't GORE get charged with a CRIME???
7 Aug 2023 2:38 pm
-------------------------------------------In mid-December, the electors in each state gather in the state capitol and cast their votes. After casting their votes, they prepare "Certificates of Vote." These certificates, along with the Certificates of Ascertainment, are sent to the Secretary of the Senate, the Office of the Federal Register at the National Archives, and other federal and state officials. The Senate's copies remained sealed, but at the Federal Register, staff inspect them to make sure they have been completed correctly.The Office of the Federal Register must also track down electoral votes that come in late to ensure that they are in by the time Congress meets to count the votes. On occasion, Federal Register staff have had to ask the state police to track down a governor or crawl through piles of undelivered mail to find some votes gone astray.Beekeeper » 07 Aug 2023, 1:15 pm » wrote: ↑ Psssst. ****.
The GOVERNOR has NO "approval" of any slate of electors. Are you THAT dense to know that the CONSTITUTION calls for the State's LEGISLATURE to approve a slate of electors??
Keep digging. It's so much fun watching you BURY YOURSELF in your OWN STUPID that we get a MASSIVE belly laugh at you CONSTANTLY!!
Besides, the ONLY slate of electors presented TO CONGRESS was the ones sent by the State's legislatures. Seems once AGAIN, you have ZERO CLUE about the FACTS and why there IS NO CRIME to present an ALTERNATIVE slate of electors before a State legislature
Even Gore attempted to do that in the 2000 race in Florida you STUPID **** IDIOT!! HE TOO had the State Democrat party select an ALTERNATE SET OF ELECTORS as the recount was ongoing. Yeah, cucky, it happened. So why didn't GORE get charged with a CRIME???
7 Aug 2023 2:43 pm
And that means what exactly, ****?? THAT I AM 100% CORRECT in that the GOVERNOR has ZERO input in the Electors from ANY STATE!! You know, that CLAIM YOU MADE that got your *** KICKED AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!jerrab » 07 Aug 2023, 2:38 pm » wrote: ↑ -------------------------------------------In mid-December, the electors in each state gather in the state capitol and cast their votes. After casting their votes, they prepare "Certificates of Vote." These certificates, along with the Certificates of Ascertainment, are sent to the Secretary of the Senate, the Office of the Federal Register at the National Archives, and other federal and state officials. The Senate's copies remained sealed, but at the Federal Register, staff inspect them to make sure they have been completed correctly.The Office of the Federal Register must also track down electoral votes that come in late to ensure that they are in by the time Congress meets to count the votes. On occasion, Federal Register staff have had to ask the state police to track down a governor or crawl through piles of undelivered mail to find some votes gone astray.
And that there is NO LAW that is criminal to submit an ALTERNATE SLATE for the State to approve!!
7 Aug 2023 2:47 pm
the governor approves, if the governor disapproved he would say so.Beekeeper » 07 Aug 2023, 2:43 pm » wrote: ↑ And that means what exactly, ****?? THAT I AM 100% CORRECT in that the GOVERNOR has ZERO input in the Electors from ANY STATE!! You know, that CLAIM YOU MADE that got your *** KICKED AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!
And that there is NO LAW that is criminal to submit an ALTERNATE SLATE for the State to approve!!
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The general election is held every four years on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November. When you vote for a Presidential candidate you are actually voting for your candidate's preferred electors. Learn more about voting for the electors.Most States have a “winner-take-all” system that awards all electors to the Presidential candidate who wins the State's popular vote. However, Maine and Nebraska each have a variation of “proportional representation.” Read more about the allocation of electors among the States.
7 Aug 2023 2:55 pm
So show us THAT LAW, ****!!jerrab » 07 Aug 2023, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑ the governor approves, if the governor disapproved he would say so.
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The general election is held every four years on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November. When you vote for a Presidential candidate you are actually voting for your candidate's preferred electors. Learn more about voting for the electors.Most States have a “winner-take-all” system that awards all electors to the Presidential candidate who wins the State's popular vote. However, Maine and Nebraska each have a variation of “proportional representation.” Read more about the allocation of electors among the States.
Where the "governor approves"
NO LAW CITED, YOU ONCE AGAIN, LOSE!!
Sucks for you, huh, ASSHOLE??
How many times do you need your *** BLISTERED before you realize that YOU'VE BEEN BEATEN TO A BLOODY PULP??
7 Aug 2023 2:58 pm
you are as ignorant as eastman and trump.Beekeeper » 07 Aug 2023, 2:43 pm » wrote: ↑ And that means what exactly, ****?? THAT I AM 100% CORRECT in that the GOVERNOR has ZERO input in the Electors from ANY STATE!! You know, that CLAIM YOU MADE that got your *** KICKED AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!
And that there is NO LAW that is criminal to submit an ALTERNATE SLATE for the State to approve!!
---------------------------------------The general election is held every four years on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November. When you vote for a Presidential candidate you are actually voting for your candidate's preferred electors. Learn more about voting for the electors.Most States have a “winner-take-all” system that awards all electors to the Presidential candidate who wins the State's popular vote. However, Maine and Nebraska each have a variation of “proportional representation.” Read more about the allocation of electors among the States.
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if a mother leaves the house and comes back and every window is broken should the child be in trouble? she never said not to break windows.
7 Aug 2023 3:26 pm
you did not answer the question about the broken windows.Beekeeper » 07 Aug 2023, 2:55 pm » wrote: ↑ So show us THAT LAW, ****!!
Where the "governor approves"
NO LAW CITED, YOU ONCE AGAIN, LOSE!!
Sucks for you, huh, ASSHOLE??
How many times do you need your *** BLISTERED before you realize that YOU'VE BEEN BEATEN TO A BLOODY PULP??
7 Aug 2023 3:32 pm
------------------------------------------Beekeeper » 07 Aug 2023, 2:55 pm » wrote: ↑ So show us THAT LAW, ****!!
Where the "governor approves"
NO LAW CITED, YOU ONCE AGAIN, LOSE!!
Sucks for you, huh, ASSHOLE??
How many times do you need your *** BLISTERED before you realize that YOU'VE BEEN BEATEN TO A BLOODY PULP??
How are my electors chosen? What are their qualifications? How do they decide who to vote for?
Each candidate running for President in your State has their own group of electors (known as a slate). The slates are generally chosen by the candidate’s political party in your State, but State laws vary on how the electors are selected and what their responsibilities are. Read more about the qualifications of the electors and restrictions on who the electors may vote for.
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where does it say alternate electors are allowable?
7 Aug 2023 3:38 pm
well ****, should the child be punished for breaking windows even though the mother never said not to break any windows?Beekeeper » 07 Aug 2023, 2:55 pm » wrote: ↑ So show us THAT LAW, ****!!
Where the "governor approves"
NO LAW CITED, YOU ONCE AGAIN, LOSE!!
Sucks for you, huh, ASSHOLE??
How many times do you need your *** BLISTERED before you realize that YOU'VE BEEN BEATEN TO A BLOODY PULP??
7 Aug 2023 5:18 pm
answer this question---
if a mother leaves the house and comes back and every window is broken should the child be in trouble? she never said not to break windows.
7 Aug 2023 6:17 pm
They weren't ILLEGAL in Hawaii in the 1960 election.jerrab » 07 Aug 2023, 3:32 pm » wrote: ↑ ------------------------------------------
Each candidate running for President in your State has their own group of electors (known as a slate). The slates are generally chosen by the candidate’s political party in your State, but State laws vary on how the electors are selected and what their responsibilities are. Read more about the qualifications of the electors and restrictions on who the electors may vote for.
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where does it say alternate electors are allowable?
Show me where you have a LAW that says doing so is ILLEGAL!! Otherwise you have NOTHING but more of your bloviating with **** and apple butter.
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