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jerrab » 07 Aug 2023, 3:38 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2023, 3:38 pm

well ****, should the child be punished for breaking windows even though the mother never said not to break  any windows?

We call this a FALSE EQUIVALENCY and has ZERO bearing on your getting your *** KICKED AGAIN!!!

Since there is NO LAW that you can cite that PROHIBITS a set of ALTERNATIVE ELECTORS, why don't you do the SMART THING and accept your *** KICKING and move one with a BLOODY STUMP and then never come back.

YOU LOST, ****. ADMIT IT!!

jerrab » 07 Aug 2023, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2023, 2:58 pm

you are as ignorant as eastman and trump.

---------------------------------------The general election is held every four years on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November. When you vote for a Presidential candidate you are actually voting for your candidate's preferred electors. Learn more about voting for the electors.Most States have a “winner-take-all” system that awards all electors to the Presidential candidate who wins the State's popular vote. However, Maine and Nebraska each have a variation of “proportional representation.” Read more about the allocation of electors among the States.

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if a mother leaves the house and comes back and every window is broken should the child be in trouble? she never said not to break windows.

Pssst. Cucky. YOU HAVE ZERO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO VOTE FOR PRESIDENT.

Bet you never knew that one now did you?? A STATE LEGISLATURE can toss ALL VOTES and then send any damn slate of electors chosen in ANY MANNER they so desire. PERIOD!!

You have ZERO KNOWLEDGE of what the Constitution actually says and that alone means YOUR BLOODY *** GETS KICKED OVER AND OVER AND OVER!! Just like it did NOW!!

                   

jerrab » 07 Aug 2023, 5:18 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2023, 5:18 pm

answer this question---

if a mother leaves the house and comes back and every window is broken should the child be in trouble? she never said not to break windows.

not until it's proven the kid broke the windows.
answer this question;
you gonna send the kid to prison and ruin the rest of his/her/its life?
 

Beekeeper » 07 Aug 2023, 6:23 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2023, 6:23 pm

Pssst. Cucky. YOU HAVE ZERO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO VOTE FOR PRESIDENT.

Bet you never knew that one now did you?? A STATE LEGISLATURE can toss ALL VOTES and then send any damn slate of electors chosen in ANY MANNER they so desire. PERIOD!!

You have ZERO KNOWLEDGE of what the Constitution actually says and that alone means YOUR BLOODY *** GETS KICKED OVER AND OVER AND OVER!! Just like it did NOW!!

                 

dumb ***, trump even admits it was illegal blaming it on his lawyers

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https://abovethelaw.com/2023/08/trump-t ... coup-plot/


Trump plans to claim that he only tried to overthrow the government because Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, John Eastman, and the rest of the weirdos he surrounded himself with said it was very cool and very legal. Because who wouldn’t be led astray by a guy leaking hair dye, a woman ranting about dead Hugo Chávez, and a lawyer who bombed out of traffic court swearing that the vice president has the unilateral authority to toss out electoral votes?
 
 

Squatchman » 05 Aug 2023, 10:24 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 10:24 pm

It's going to be fun to watch.
Trump's best defense is to say he was stupid and gullible for listening to his terrible advisors.
If he doesn't he admits to knowing there was no election fraud to begin with and that he was in on everything.
He's stuck between saying he's a ******* or admitting defeat.
Trump has been played like a fiddle by Jack Smith.

ALL Trump has to do.. PROVIDED it is an HONEST COURT... is present the evidence that has ALREADY been substantiated, and PERPETRATED against him... as follows:

1)  2016... - Hillary Clinton CREATED the FAKE Russian Dossier that she used to try to SMEAR Donald Trump!

2)  2016... - The FBI TOOK that FAKE Russian Dossier... and orchestrated it's introduction into the American Media, and USED it to launch the UNWARRANTED investigation of Donald Trump!

3)  2017... The FBI and DOJ Initiated the  "Mueller Investigation".. KNOWING that the basis for it (the Russian Dossier) was a LIE, but KEPT going with it for 2 YEARS... and SURPRISE!  Trump was CONVICTED of NOTHING !

4)  2017... The FBI worked behind the scenes to SPY of Donald Trump, to SUBVERT his Presidency, and used THREE (3) FRAUDULENT FISA warrants to SPY on HIM in the process... ALL THREE npw PROVEN to be FRAUDULENT.. and signed by James Comey and others !

5)  2018 - 2020... The Democrat Party tried to IMPEACH Trump for collusion with Ukraine, that Joe Biden ACTUALLY DID and ADMITTED to doing!!... and for Obstruction of Justice and Abuse of Power... which we now KNOW that the FBI and DOJ DID !!

6)  2020 - The FBI and DOJ ORCHESTRATED an attempt to HIDE the Hunter Biden laptop, calling it "Russian Disinformation", KNOWING it contained ACTUAL evidence of Hunter and Joe Bidens CORRUPTION, and OTHER illegal acts... when the KNEW it was REAL... and would DAMAGE Joe Bidens hopes for election !

7)  2020 - the DOJ and FBI orchestrated a signed letter, from 51 well known Deep State bureaucrats and PATSIES of the Democrat Party... who SWORE that the Hunter Laptop WAS Russian Disinformation... ALL OF IT WE NOW KNOW WAS A LIE...

SO, THESE ALL are examples/evidence of a FEDERAL Government WEAPONIZATION against Donald Trump... and THEY DID it ALL to Influence the election, to DEFEAT Donald Trump, and to help Joe Biden win the Presidency !  REGARDLESS of OTHER "Election Issues",  WHAT the FBI's, DOJ's, and Deep State DID to a duly elected, sitting, and now X-President of America... IS Election INTERFERENCE, and Election FRAUD... BY elements of the U.S. Government !  ...AND ALSO is TREASON against Americans, and AMERICA itself !
 
 

First, we know that there will be a lot of witnesses.

A review of the indictment suggests that Smith will have to call 30 to 40 witnesses to substantiate everything in the wide-ranging indictment.

The indictment’s description of the “conspiracy to defraud the United States” includes tense confrontations in the Oval Office, phone calls to legislators in seven states, more than 60 lawsuits, attempts to corrupt the Department of Justice, lies to electors, and a final push by Trump on Jan. 6, 2021, to pressure his vice president not to certify Joe Biden’s victory.

Smith’s list of witnesses should read like a veritable who’s who of the Republican Party, and will likely include Mike Pence, U.S. congressmen, U.S. Department of Justice officials, White House lawyers and advisers, officials from several states, and at least some of the “fake” electors who signed election certifications even though their candidate lost the race.

Second, everything described in the indictment — everything, without exception — must be established by admissible evidence in the Washington, D.C., courtroom. Even the background information included in one of the indictment’s opening paragraphs, which describes how electoral votes are counted under federal law, will likely have to be explained to the jury by an expert witness.

The cross-examination of that witness, which could be relevant to Trump’s defense, may be lengthy. (On Thursday, Trump pleaded not guilty to all charges.) Indicted: MAGA violence becomes criminal evidence against Trump in coup case Smith and his team will endeavor to tell the story laid out in the indictment.

But, after the government’s opening statement, that story has to be told through live witness testimony or reliable documents (think emails and text messages).

In contrast, the House Jan. 6 committee, which had first crack at many of the witnesses, was not conducting a criminal trial and did not have to comply with the rules of evidence and criminal procedure. For purposes of those blockbuster public hearings, the committee was able to select and play relevant portions of videotaped depositions to illustrate key points.

Notably, the near-total boycott of the committee by House Republicans meant that witness testimony went unchallenged.

The Constitution affords criminal prosecutors no such luxuries. Government witnesses in Trump’s criminal trials will have to testify live. They will be subject to cross-examination; this is Trump’s right under the Sixth Amendment to confront the witnesses against him.

And, for reasons of efficiency, trial judges expect witnesses to testify in a single session about everything relevant to the trial.

That means Smith’s witnesses may be asked to testify about a number of events that may not flow chronologically in Smith’s presentation of the case.

The jury will have to sort all that out later, with the help of the government’s closing argument.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opi ... -rcna98069
 

jerrab » 07 Aug 2023, 10:45 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2023, 10:45 pm

dumb ***, trump even admits it was illegal blaming it on his lawyers

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https://abovethelaw.com/2023/08/trump-t ... coup-plot/

Trump plans to claim that he only tried to overthrow the government because Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, John Eastman, and the rest of the weirdos he surrounded himself with said it was very cool and very legal. Because who wouldn’t be led astray by a guy leaking hair dye, a woman ranting about dead Hugo Chávez, and a lawyer who bombed out of traffic court swearing that the vice president has the unilateral authority to toss out electoral votes?

Welp, you are damn good at reading **** into things when your LWNJ sites push a narrative. So you can QUOTE where Trump said "This is illegal".

No?? Well, imagine that. Hell, you can't even get a MAYBE he said it, much less that he did!!

Run along scampy. You go back on IGNORE since your STUPID only seems to have deteriorated into ABJECT MORON now.

jerrab » 07 Aug 2023, 10:45 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2023, 10:45 pm

 

Here's the Jan 6 weaponry that queer bitches like jerrab has been brainwashed into believing COULD HAVE OVERTHROWN THE US GOVERNMENT...  
DEFENDANTWEAPON
ALAM, Zachary JordanHelmetALBERTS, Christopher MichaelHandgun (Alberts was arrested after the riot was over, at 7:25 p.m., on a street near the Capitol and was accused of having a firearm.)BALLARD, Thomas JohnPolice batonBARNETT, RichardStun gun, walking stickBARNHART, Logan JamesBaton, flagpole, crutchBLACK, Joshua MatthewKnifeBLAIR, David AlanFlagpole, knifeBROCKHOFF, Nicholas JamesFire extinguisherBYERLY, Alan WilliamTaserCALDWELL, Daniel RayPepper or mace sprayCAPUCCIO, StevenBatonCHRESTMAN, WilliamAx handleCOFFEE, Luke RussellCrutchCOFFMAN, Lonnie LeroyMultiple firearms (Coffman is not charged with being on Capitol grounds; allegedly had two guns on his person, plus firearms in his truck parked on 1st Street SE in Washington D.C.)COPELAND, Landon KennethMetal fenceCUA, Bruno JosephBatonDEMPSEY, David NicholasCrutch, metal pole, "lacrimal spray," and "club-like object"EISENHART, Lisa MarieTaserFAIRLAMB, Scott KevinBatonFOY, Michael JosephHockey stickGIESWEIN, RobertBaseball bat, "aerosol irritant spray"GOSSJANKOWSKI, VitaliTaserHARKRIDER, Alex KirkTomahawk axIBRAHIM, Mark SamiFirearmJACKSON, EmanuelMetal baseball batJAMES, AaronShieldJENKINS, Shane LeedonTomahawk ax, flagpole, desk drawer, and "stick-like objects"JENSEN, Douglas AustinKnifeJOHNSON, Paul RussellMetal crowd control barrierJONES, Chad BarrettFlagpoleJUDD, David LeeFirecrackerKHATER, Julian ElieChemical spray (Accused of attacking Officer Brian Sicknick)KLEIN, Federico GuillermoShieldKRAMER, Philip EdwardSnowboarding helmet, walking cane, Master Lock, climbing ropeLANG, Edward JacobBat, shieldLANGUERAND, NicholasTraffic barrier, "stick-like objects"LAZAR, SamuelChemical irritantMCABEE, Ronald ColtonBaton, flagpole, crutch, and "reinforced gloves"MCCAUGHEY, Patrick E. IIIShieldMCGREW, James BurtonPoleMCHUGH, Sean MichaelBear spray, "metal sign"MCKELLOP, JeffreyFlagpoleMEREDITH, Cleveland Grover Jr.Firearms (Meredith arrived in Washington after the riot was over but was charged with having three guns in his possession.)MELLIS, Jonathan GennaroStickMILLER, Matthew RyanFire extinguisherMINK, Jorden RobertBaseball batMUNAFO, Jonathan JoshuaFlagpoleMUNCHEL, EricTaserNEEFE, MarshallWooden club, "metal sign frame"NICHOLS, Ryan TaylorCrowbar, pepper sprayOWENS, Grady DouglasSkateboardPADILLA, Joseph LinoFlagpole, "large metal sign"PALMER, Robert ScottFire extinguisher, "stick-like object"PERKINS, Michael StevenFlagpolePOLLOCK, Jonathan DanielFlagpole, riot shieldPONDER, Mark K.PolePOWELL, Rachel MarieIce ax, "large wooden pole"QUAGLIN, Christopher JosephShield, pepper sprayRANDOLPH, Stephen ChaseMetal crowd control barrierREFFITT, Guy WesleyHandgunRODRIGUEZ, DanielFlagpole, "electroshock weapon"RODRIGUEZ, Edward FranciscoChemical irritantSABOL, JeffreyBaton, flagpole, crutchSAMSEL, Ryan StephenMetal crowd control barrierSANFORD, RobertFire extinguisherSCHAFFER, JonBear spraySCHWARTZ, Peter J.Pepper spraySILLS, Geoffrey WilliamBatonSMITH, Charles BradfordKnifeSTAGER, Peter FrancisBaton, flagpole, crutchSTEVENS, Tristan ChandlerShieldSULLIVAN, John EarleKnifeTAAKE, Andrew QuentinPepper spray, metal whipTANIOS, George PierreChemical spray (Accused of attacking Officer Brian Sicknick)TAYLOR, RussellKnifeTHOMPSON, DevlynBatonWATSON, WilliamPepper sprayWEBSTER, ThomasFlagpoleWESTBURY, IsaacShieldWHITTON, Jack WadeBaton, flagpole, crutchWILSON, Duke EdwardPipeWORRELL, Christopher JohnPepper spray
 
 

Beekeeper » 08 Aug 2023, 4:47 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2023, 4:47 am

Welp, you are damn good at reading **** into things when your LWNJ sites push a narrative. So you can QUOTE where Trump said "This is illegal".

No?? Well, imagine that. Hell, you can't even get a MAYBE he said it, much less that he did!!

Run along scampy. You go back on IGNORE since your STUPID only seems to have deteriorated into ABJECT MORON now.

 

you are  an imbecile just like your orange clown.

jerrab » 08 Aug 2023, 7:15 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2023, 7:15 am

you are  an imbecile just like your orange clown.

TDS

jerrab » 08 Aug 2023, 7:15 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2023, 7:15 am

jerra b, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
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