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jack » 09 Aug 2023, 12:23 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2023, 12:23 pm

You may wish I appeared defensive, or maybe not, but saying it is a way of projecting a defense of your own.

I'll add this. I visit other political talk sites now and then. None are laced like this one daily is with foolish ***/pedo referencing from Right wingers.

Do you deny that Democrats are the party of pedophiles?
Joe Biden has "lost" over 85,000 children who have crossed the border. 

No one on the left cares, because he's just feeding the pedos in his party.   And he's one of them.

Oh wait, I'm sorry...   Pedo is politically incorrect now, isn't it?   Now it's MAP - Minor Attracted Person.
And liberals try to dumb down the language again, as they normalize pedophilia. 
 

OdeToJoy » 12 Aug 2023, 1:25 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Aug 2023, 1:25 pm

Everybody should be in shower cubicles and individual changing rooms.   My sisters and mother didn't see me naked after about age 10.  Why would everybody be stripping down and naked showering in front of strangers? 

I go into a local gym, and there individual shower cubicles, changing rooms, and a sign that says "Please use changing rooms.  Your modesty is appreciated".  There are even changing rooms, with a bench and hooks, that are attached to the shower to indicate that they REALLY don't want us walking around naked.  They don't even provide benches near the lockers, just a few chairs by the door for people to change their shoes.

Nobody needs to be naked in front of strangers.

Just call some contractors and they can have the shower cubicles and changing rooms installed in a couple of days.

So? I am referring to men walking in on girls. This isn't a hard concept. You being a female should be on my side with this. They shower in there. Lia Thomas walked around naked in the female locker room. Why should women be exposed to that? So you and other progressives can have your politics granted? Simply because it isn't a big deal to you doesn't mean it isn't a big deal. The universe doesn't revolve around your wishes. There are other people who live in your world, believe it or not.  

Vegas » 12 Aug 2023, 9:43 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Aug 2023, 9:43 pm

So? I am referring to men walking in on girls. This isn't a hard concept. You being a female should be on my side with this. They shower in there. Lia Thomas walked around naked in the female locker room. Why should women be exposed to that? So you and other progressives can have your politics granted? Simply because it isn't a big deal to you doesn't mean it isn't a big deal. The universe doesn't revolve around your wishes. There are other people who live in your world, believe it or not.

Liberal women abandon feminism and destroyed it, in about 1 year. 
It's been hugely entertaining to watch. 
 

Thank God for

Christian Russia!!!

Trannies treated like a cultural disease...as it should be.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1690480516816883712

golfboy » 12 Aug 2023, 9:48 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Aug 2023, 9:48 pm

Liberal women abandon feminism and destroyed it, in about 1 year. 
It's been hugely entertaining to watch.

It just perplexes me that women would defend this all in the name of politics. They are defending the clear violation of a woman's right to privacy, then turn around and champion feminism. WTH?  

Sumela » 12 Aug 2023, 9:57 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Aug 2023, 9:57 pm

Thank God for

Christian Russia!!!

Trannies treated like a cultural disease...as it should be.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1690480516816883712

Russia has it right. If a tranny dude walks in a woman's locker room, they will beat the hell out them. 

Vegas » 12 Aug 2023, 10:08 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Aug 2023, 10:08 pm

Russia has it right. If a tranny dude walks in a woman's locker room, they will beat the hell out them.

WORD BRO.  

Message is clear ""dont try to infect us with your cultural VIRUSES""
 

Vegas » 12 Aug 2023, 9:43 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Aug 2023, 9:43 pm

So? I am referring to men walking in on girls. This isn't a hard concept. You being a female should be on my side with this. They shower in there. Lia Thomas walked around naked in the female locker room. Why should women be exposed to that? So you and other progressives can have your politics granted? Simply because it isn't a big deal to you doesn't mean it isn't a big deal. The universe doesn't revolve around your wishes. There are other people who live in your world, believe it or not.

And whatever issues that entails would be solved with the installation of shower cubicles and changing rooms.  All of our teenage bodies were fully secured when changing in the toilet stalls.  During all of my years in school I never once saw another girl's naked body.  And I would have been deeply offended if I had.

I don't think ANYBODY should be naked in front of someone else.  When I go to the gym; I don't want any woman seeing my naked body, and I don't want to see any other woman's naked body.  As a teenager, my mother didn't see me naked, my sisters didn't see me naked, my friends didn't see me naked, and strangers didn't see me naked.

 

OdeToJoy » 12 Aug 2023, 11:27 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Aug 2023, 11:27 pm

And whatever issues that entails would be solved with the installation of shower cubicles and changing rooms.  All of our teenage bodies were fully secured when changing in the toilet stalls.  During all of my years in school I never once saw another girl's naked body.  And I would have been deeply offended if I had.

I don't think ANYBODY should be naked in front of someone else.  When I go to the gym; I don't want any woman seeing my naked body, and I don't want to see any other woman's naked body.  As a teenager, my mother didn't see me naked, my sisters didn't see me naked, my friends didn't see me naked, and strangers didn't see me naked.

That's not realistic. Most public places, or even private organizations, aren't going to be able to remodel their facilities due to cost and space. They shouldn't have to either. 

Vegas » 13 Aug 2023, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2023, 9:51 am

That's not realistic. Most public places, or even private organizations, aren't going to be able to remodel their facilities due to cost and space. They shouldn't have to either.

I worked in a high school.  The shower room is one really large room with evenly spaced shower heads on 2-3 walls of the room.  Either toilet style cubicles can be installed or curtain rods, with shower curtains, that create individual privacy curtains.  In the film Pitch Perfect the girls were taking showers in a dorm bathroom and they had individual curtained shower areas.  There wasn't any public shower area.  I can't see the problem with maintenance installing rods and curtains for privacy.  

This isn't a big problem to solve

OdeToJoy » 13 Aug 2023, 2:04 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2023, 2:04 pm

I worked in a high school.  The shower room is one really large room with evenly spaced shower heads on 2-3 walls of the room.  Either toilet style cubicles can be installed or curtain rods, with shower curtains, that create individual privacy curtains.  In the film Pitch Perfect the girls were taking showers in a dorm bathroom and they had individual curtained shower areas.  There wasn't any public shower area.  I can't see the problem with maintenance installing rods and curtains for privacy.  

This isn't a big problem to solve

Shower curtains within the same gender is not a big deal. Why would you defend men and women, in public, to share shower areas, with or without curtains? Especially if there are grown men and little girls present. Curtains, no curtains. Don't care. Why would you think it would be appropriate for grown men to share a shower area with little girls? 

Vegas » 13 Aug 2023, 2:07 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2023, 2:07 pm

Shower curtains within the same gender is not a big deal. Why would you defend men and women, in public, to share shower areas, with or without curtains? Especially if there are grown men and little girls present. Curtains, no curtains. Don't care. Why would you think it would be appropriate for grown men to share a shower area with little girls?

The people in gym classes and school sport teams are all the same age.  The teachers and coaches don't go into the locker rooms with students.  

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ROG62 » 12 Aug 2023, 8:47 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Aug 2023, 8:47 pm

it's the way it was...makes one wonder about the teacher...

that’s what I thought    

we had to take swimming classes naked too

OdeToJoy » 13 Aug 2023, 2:45 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2023, 2:45 pm

The people in gym classes and school sport teams are all the same age.  The teachers and coaches don't go into the locker rooms with students.  

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Again, so? Not the point. Here is the thing, there never was a problem, until the democrats got involved. Boys/men went into the boy's/men's room and the girls/women went into the girl's/women's room. It worked great, there was no problem to be solved. Then the democrats came around and decided to change it all up for political reasons. Now here we are. Women/girl's no longer have a right to privacy, like they did before. What perplexes me is that democrat women, such as yourself, are okay with having female's right to privacy violated. The irony is that I sound more like a feminist, given that I am trying to protect women's rights, and you and the dems sound more like the misogynists, given that you think violating their privacy is "no big deal."

I genuinely believe that deep down Ode, you agree with me on this. However, you refuse to go against your own party. Pretty sick, really.  

Vegas » 13 Aug 2023, 5:09 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2023, 5:09 pm

Again, so? Not the point. Here is the thing, there never was a problem, until the democrats got involved. Boys/men went into the boy's/men's room and the girls/women went into the girl's/women's room. It worked great, there was no problem to be solved. Then the democrats came around and decided to change it all up for political reasons. Now here we are. Women/girl's no longer have a right to privacy, like they did before. What perplexes me is that democrat women, such as yourself, are okay with having female's right to privacy violated. The irony is that I sound more like a feminist, given that I am trying to protect women's rights, and you and the dems sound more like the misogynists, given that you think violating their privacy is "no big deal."

I genuinely believe that deep down Ode, you agree with me on this. However, you refuse to go against your own party. Pretty sick, really.

I don't believe that ANYONE should be naked in front of someone else.  Everybody needs to stop stripping down in front of other people.  Change and shower in a private place.  I don't want to look at anybody's naked body, and I never did.

And, no, I don't agree with you. 

OdeToJoy » 13 Aug 2023, 5:58 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2023, 5:58 pm

I don't believe that ANYONE should be naked in front of someone else.  Everybody needs to stop stripping down in front of other people.  Change and shower in a private place.  I don't want to look at anybody's naked body, and I never did.

And, no, I don't agree with you.

Stop letting men in girl's locker rooms. Problem solved. 

Vegas » 13 Aug 2023, 6:58 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2023, 6:58 pm

Stop letting men in girl's locker rooms. Problem solved.

Nobody should be walking around naked in a locker room.  Problem solved.

OdeToJoy » 13 Aug 2023, 7:26 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2023, 7:26 pm

Nobody should be walking around naked in a locker room.  Problem solved.

Keep men out of girl's locker rooms. Problem solved.

You can dodge that all you want, but your deflection only makes your argument weaker and weaker. 

This is why your party is deemed as child groomers and sexual predators. You defend men in girl's bathroom, then deflect when confronted about it. Just like you are doing now. 

Vegas » 13 Aug 2023, 7:29 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2023, 7:29 pm

Keep men out of girl's locker rooms. Problem solved.

You can dodge that all you want, but your deflection only makes your argument weaker and weaker. 

This is why your party is deemed as child groomers and sexual predators. You defend men in girl's bathroom, then deflect when confronted about it. Just like you are doing now.

You don't seem to be getting a lot of support on this.  No naked people.  Problem solved.
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ok ok ... after covid ... things have become a little slack ...

The rule has aways been -- a threads regarding PORN MUST contain pictures ....

Where are the mods on this one ????