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ConservativeWave » 27 Aug 2023, 9:25 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 9:25 am

Comments is RED above !

Donald Trump did what he had to do... to:

1)  Secure America's borders (build the wall),

2)  RE-Build a military that Barack Obama had neglected, and

3)  Secure America's economy in the midst of the COVID pandemic !

THAT is not spending like a drunken sailor... HOWEVER... Joe Biden, between HIS UNNECESSARY COVID package, HIS EXCESSIVE spending and infrastructure bill, HIS funding of CRAZY executive orders he imposed, HIS other miscellaneous spending, HE has ALREADY spent $10 Trillion... and he's not even done yet !!  AND, not to EVEN mention the $6 Trillion Green New Deal that THANK GOD... Joe Manchion KILLED... it could have been $16 Trillion ALL READY !!

THAT my friend is SPENDING like a DRUNKEN SAILOR !!! 

https://time.com/5898258/trump-lost-support-military/#
 

maineman » 27 Aug 2023, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 9:30 am

https://time.com/5898258/trump-lost-support-military/#

MANY Conservatives in the military have LEFT (or been forced out)... because of the pro Liberal Democrat policies of the Obama and Biden administrations... Pro Gay, Pro LGBTXYZ, and OTHER Radical Liberal policies... So, military personnel have BOLTED by the MILLIONS in recent years... BUT... although the younger component of the Military MAY BE more pro Democrat lately... the number of veterans out there are STILL very much pro Conservative and PRO TRUMP !!

ALSO... Believe ME.. America is NOT SAFER because of the "Progressive" shift that Obama and Biden have created in the military (probably a CONTRIVED and Planned act)... BUT, the BOTTOM LINE... when push comes to shove... a TOUGH, hard nosed, REAL American PATRIOT... will BEAT the Pansy ***'D military LITE type, EVERY TIME...  I JUST HOPE there will be ENOUGH of them if we ever get back into a SHOOTING WAR!!   NEVERTHELESS... Trump is STILL supported by at least HALF of America's population... AND, Joe Bidens actions and policies WILL MAKE that divide GROW... BECAUSE, Americans DO NOT really like CORRUPT Politicians who TAKE MONEY from our enemies, for POLITICAL favors !!

READ the latest Rasmussen Polls.. it CERTAINLY shouldn't give YOU, OR Joe Biden... a warm & fuzzy feeling... AND, the bad news is ONLY STARTING for Joe Biden !!  There is LOTS more investigation, witnesses, and TESTIMONY to come... and Biden Family SECRETS to be REVEALED !!

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public ... rack_aug25
 

Washington Post... U.S. Military has a POLITICS Problem... as confidence plummets !!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... s-problem/

 
 

ConservativeWave » 27 Aug 2023, 10:57 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 10:57 am

MANY Conservatives in the military have LEFT (or been forced out)... because of the pro Liberal Democrat policies of the Obama and Biden administrations... Pro Gay, Pro LGBTXYZ, and OTHER Radical Liberal policies... So, military personnel have BOLTED by the MILLIONS in recent years... BUT... although the younger component of the Military MAY BE more pro Democrat lately... the number of veterans out there are STILL very much pro Conservative and PRO TRUMP !!

ALSO... Believe ME.. America is NOT SAFER because of the "Progressive" shift that Obama and Biden have created in the military (probably a CONTRIVED and Planned act)... BUT, the BOTTOM LINE... when push comes to shove... a TOUGH, hard nosed, REAL American PATRIOT... will BEAT the Pansy ***'D military LITE type, EVERY TIME...  I JUST HOPE there will be ENOUGH of them if we ever get back into a SHOOTING WAR!!   NEVERTHELESS... Trump is STILL supported by at least HALF of America's population... AND, Joe Bidens actions and policies WILL MAKE that divide GROW... BECAUSE, Americans DO NOT really like CORRUPT Politicians who TAKE MONEY from our enemies, for POLITICAL favors !!

READ the latest Rasmussen Polls.. it CERTAINLY shouldn't give YOU, OR Joe Biden... a warm & fuzzy feeling... AND, the bad news is ONLY STARTING for Joe Biden !!  There is LOTS more investigation, witnesses, and TESTIMONY to come... and Biden Family SECRETS to be REVEALED !!

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public ... rack_aug25

I should believe YOU?  A **** hack with goalposts in his **** pickup truck?

So... you show me a poll that says that career military doesn't like Obama and that is supposed to be totally believable....

I show you one where the military had turned on trump and you claim it's because all the Trump-loving soldiers, sailors airmen and marines abandoned their careers before Trump took over?  

You're a **** joke... a clown.
 

maineman » 27 Aug 2023, 2:55 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 2:55 pm

I should believe YOU?  A **** hack with goalposts in his **** pickup truck?

So... you show me a poll that says that career military doesn't like Obama and that is supposed to be totally believable....

I show you one where the military had turned on trump and you claim it's because all the Trump-loving soldiers, sailors airmen and marines abandoned their careers before Trump took over?  

You're a **** joke... a clown.

Listen... I don't make things up... AND I don't listen to blatantly partisan outlets that spew EXACTLY what you EXPECT them to SPEW... HOWEVER, Proven accurate polls, OR partisan outlets that give data you MIGHT not expect from them... PEAK my interest... I think that TRUTH flows from THOSE types of sources.  AND WHATS MORE... I don't just SAY something is FACT, WITHOUT:  1) a Reputable source, 2) Where the information came from, and 3) THAT it makes sense in the BROADER scope !

SO... Regarding concerns that Military is going TOO WOKE... HOW MANY SOURCES do you want to see ?

https://nypost.com/2023/07/18/woke-cult ... less-safe/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/servic ... e-military

https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-mi ... 023-8?op=1

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your ... o-recruit/

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-se ... -military/

MY conclusions... The MILITARY leadership is FIGHTING BACK against the attacks that "the military is going TOO WOKE".. BUT, all branches of the military are missing their recruiting goals, and they KNOW the cause is the perception of WOKEIZM...  YOU can TRY to LIE to the American people... but they KNOW what's happening.. and they will SHOW their concern ONEWAY or another !!  MANY JUST WILL NOT SERVE in a WOKE Democrat controlled military !!

AND... Regarding TRUMP, Republicans and the polls... For the lart 3 years, Republicans have been gaining ground, trump is becoming MORE popular, and DEMOCRATS are NOT !!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-poll ... 023-08-20/

https://news.gallup.com/poll/388781/pol ... -2021.aspx

https://news.gallup.com/poll/467897/par ... t-gop.aspx

I'm about the TRUTH... and YOUR BULL **** will NEVER sway me... Because YOU are a LIBERAL  IDIOT... and I'm NOT !!

 
 

ConservativeWave » 27 Aug 2023, 4:17 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 4:17 pm

Listen... I don't make things up... AND I don't listen to blatantly partisan outlets that spew EXACTLY what you EXPECT them to SPEW... HOWEVER, Proven accurate polls, OR partisan outlets that give data you MIGHT not expect from them... PEAK my interest... I think that TRUTH flows from THOSE types of sources.  AND WHATS MORE... I don't just SAY something is FACT, WITHOUT:  1) a Reputable source, 2) Where the information came from, and 3) THAT it makes sense in the BROADER scope !

SO... Regarding concerns that Military is going TOO WOKE... HOW MANY SOURCES do you want to see ?

https://nypost.com/2023/07/18/woke-cult ... less-safe/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/servic ... e-military

https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-mi ... 023-8?op=1

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your ... o-recruit/

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-se ... -military/

MY conclusions... The MILITARY leadership is FIGHTING BACK against the attacks that "the military is going TOO WOKE".. BUT, all branches of the military are missing their recruiting goals, and they KNOW the cause is the perception of WOKEIZM...  YOU can TRY to LIE to the American people... but they KNOW what's happening.. and they will SHOW their concern ONEWAY or another !!  MANY JUST WILL NOT SERVE in a WOKE
 

NY Post  GMAFB
Fox?  ditto
and the last three sources are not claiming that there IS a woke culture in the military, but that RWNJ's are CLAIMING there is in order to make it a political issue.

My conclusion:  The US Miliary is not woke..they've never been woke... Drill sergeants still strike fear in the hearts of new recruits like they've always done.

DId you ever serve, BTW?

maineman » 27 Aug 2023, 6:17 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 6:17 pm

NY Post  GMAFB
Fox?  ditto
and the last three sources are not claiming that there IS a woke culture in the military, but that RWNJ's are CLAIMING there is in order to make it a political issue.

My conclusion:  The US Miliary is not woke..they've never been woke... Drill sergeants still strike fear in the hearts of new recruits like they've always done.

DId you ever serve, BTW?

Hmmm... LETS SEE:

1.  NY Post,
2.  Business Insider,
3)  Military Times,
4)  CBS News,
5)  Gallup, AND
6)  Fox News !!

..AND ALL OF THEM either talk about Americas concerns about WOKE-ISM in the Military, about Service Members remaining in the military, Recruits and Recruiting ALL showing WOKE-ISM is having a NEGATIVE effect... and HURTING the Military.  THREE (3) CBS News indicating that Trump is GROWING his lead in the GOP primaries... EVEN WITH the weaponized FBI and DOJ indicting him every week... AND two (2) Gallup polls showing Republican support in 2021 AND 2022 GROWING... WHAT are American people going to decide when ALL of the current investigations produce MORE evidence, and are publicized MORE as the elections roll around... and the LIFE and DEATH of America ITSELF will be on the BALLOT ?

YOU can believe what YOU WANT to believe.. BUT, I'm comfortable in WHAT I KNOW, and WHAT I POST... and WHAT I KNOW is TRUE... AND I KNOW what's BEST for America... and it's NOT the Democrat Party !!



 

ConservativeWave » 27 Aug 2023, 7:08 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 7:08 pm

Hmmm... LETS SEE:

1.  NY Post,
2.  Business Insider,
3)  Military Times,
4)  CBS News,
5)  Gallup, AND
6)  Fox News !!

..AND ALL OF THEM either talk about Americas concerns about WOKE-ISM in the Military, about Service Members remaining in the military, Recruits and Recruiting ALL showing WOKE-ISM is having a NEGATIVE effect... and HURTING the Military.  THREE (3) CBS News indicating that Trump is GROWING his lead in the GOP primaries... EVEN WITH the weaponized FBI and DOJ indicting him every week... AND two (2) Gallup polls showing Republican support in 2021 AND 2022 GROWING... WHAT are American people going to decide when ALL of the current investigations produce MORE evidence, and are publicized MORE as the elections notroll around... and the LIFE and DEATH of America ITSELF will be on the BALLOT ?

YOU can believe what YOU WANT to believe.. BUT, I'm comfortable in WHAT I KNOW, and WHAT I POST... and WHAT I KNOW is TRUE... AND I KNOW what's BEST for America... and it's NOT the Democrat Party !!
 

not to mention Millie said "only one or two phag shows have happened".  one or two too many for armed services!

maineman » 26 Aug 2023, 9:33 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2023, 9:33 pm

Let’s try this once again:

1.  How many times was the debt ceiling raised during Trump’s presidency?
2.  How many appropriations bills did he veto?

3.  It is your partisan opinion that Obama neglected the military.  As a career naval officer, I disagree.
4.  It is your partisan opinion that the COVID bill was unnecessary.  As a citizen who watched local businesses trying to stay afloat, I dsagree.

Why do you keep asking the same questions, that have been answered?
You weren't in the military under Obama, Room Temp.  You have no idea what was going on. 

I'm still waiting for you to tell me how much Trump should have spent to keep the American economy afloat when they shut down the country.
And did Trump ever propose a $6 Trillion budget, like Joe has, even without Covid spending?

 

maineman » 27 Aug 2023, 6:17 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 6:17 pm

My conclusion:  The US Miliary is not woke..they've never been woke... Drill sergeants still strike fear in the hearts of new recruits like they've always done.

 

Cool.  Explain this:
US Navy hires active-duty drag queen as face of recruitment drive
 

maineman » 27 Aug 2023, 6:17 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 6:17 pm

NY Post  GMAFB
Fox?  ditto
and the last three sources are not claiming that there IS a woke culture in the military, but that RWNJ's are CLAIMING there is in order to make it a political issue.

My conclusion:  The US Miliary is not woke..they've never been woke... Drill sergeants still strike fear in the hearts of new recruits like they've always done.

DId you ever serve, BTW?

**** LIAR!!!

May042023

Farcification of US Military Under Liberal Rule

The goal is not just to destroy the US military, but first to reduce it from one of our most revered institutions to a source of shame. How else to explain the use of a drag queen for Navy recruitment?

Yeoman 2nd Class Joshua Kelley, stage name Harpy Daniels, announced the Navy invited him to become the first “Navy Digital Ambassador” in a November 2022 social media post, highlighting his journey from performing on deck in 2018 to becoming a “leader” and “advocate” of people who “were oppressed for years in the service.”

He specifically cites the former Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy (i.e., go ahead and be a pervert but don’t make a spectacle out of it because that would undermine cohesion) as what he means by being “oppressed.”This moonbattery can be expected to compound the Navy’s recruitment problem by attracting dissolute degenerates while causing suitable candidates to turn away in revulsion.

Kelley said he was “hand selected as one of four Navy Digital Ambassadors” in a social media post. …He first started performing on ships after a sanctioned MWR (Morale, Welfare and Recreation) lip syncing competition in 2017 while deployed on the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier, Herzog wrote. Kelley “continues to slay in performances that boost morale and show support for LGBTQ+ service members.”

That’s how the Biden Regime has servicemen spending their time while the ChiComs tighten a noose around Taiwan.

Kelley said he faced harassment from outside the military after he was scheduled to perform at a Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) event at Langley Joint Air Force Base in the summer of 2022 that “caused an uproar to many conservatives and Christian extremists.”

Anyone who objects to sexual perversion rubbed in the public’s face is an “extremist,” according to the extremists calling the shots. Fortunately for “Harpy Daniels,” he has a safe haven from disapproval in today’s woke military.

The Navy is seeking to boost its size to 347,000 officers and enlisted sailors in 2024, up from the current 341,736 serving in fiscal year 2023, according to Navy Times.

Good luck with that. Maybe try putting up flyers in San Francisco bathhouses.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1653456339547435009
 
 
 

Buffalo » 27 Aug 2023, 7:33 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 7:33 pm

**** LIAR!!!

May042023

Farcification of US Military Under Liberal Rule

The goal is not just to destroy the US military, but first to reduce it from one of our most revered institutions to a source of shame. How else to explain the use of a drag queen for Navy recruitment?

He specifically cites the former Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy (i.e., go ahead and be a pervert but don’t make a spectacle out of it because that would undermine cohesion) as what he means by being “oppressed.”This moonbattery can be expected to compound the Navy’s recruitment problem by attracting dissolute degenerates while causing suitable candidates to turn away in revulsion.

That’s how the Biden Regime has servicemen spending their time while the ChiComs tighten a noose around Taiwan.

Anyone who objects to sexual perversion rubbed in the public’s face is an “extremist,” according to the extremists calling the shots. Fortunately for “Harpy Daniels,” he has a safe haven from disapproval in today’s woke military.

Good luck with that. Maybe try putting up flyers in San Francisco bathhouses.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1653456339547435009

robby starbuck!  now there is what ANYONE would call an unimpeachable source with real credibility!  

golfboy » 27 Aug 2023, 7:31 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 7:31 pm

Cool.  Explain this:
US Navy hires active-duty drag queen as face of recruitment drive

If a former drag queen can become assimilated through a tough boot camp, who am I to criticize them?  The only chance he'll have to dress in drag while in the Navy on duty is if he's on a ship that crosses the equator and he's his division's entry into the Miss Pollywog contest.  Other than that, he'll dress like everyone else and be expected to perform like everyone else.
 

ConservativeWave » 27 Aug 2023, 7:08 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 7:08 pm

Hmmm... LETS SEE:

1.  NY Post,
2.  Business Insider,
3)  Military Times,
4)  CBS News,
5)  Gallup, AND
6)  Fox News !!

..AND ALL OF THEM either talk about Americas concerns about WOKE-ISM in the Military, about Service Members remaining in the military, Recruits and Recruiting ALL showing WOKE-ISM is having a NEGATIVE effect... and HURTING the Military.  THREE (3) CBS News indicating that Trump is GROWING his lead in the GOP primaries... EVEN WITH the weaponized FBI and DOJ indicting him every week... AND two (2) Gallup polls showing Republican support in 2021 AND 2022 GROWING... WHAT are American people going to decide when ALL of the current investigations produce MORE evidence, and are publicized MORE as the elections roll around... and the LIFE and DEATH of America ITSELF will be on the BALLOT ?

YOU can believe what YOU WANT to believe.. BUT, I'm comfortable in WHAT I KNOW, and WHAT I POST... and WHAT I KNOW is TRUE... AND I KNOW what's BEST for America... and it's NOT the Democrat Party !!

all of them talk about America's concerns about woke-ism in the military.  None of them document actual instances of woke-ism actually happening in actual units of the active duty military.  That's because RWNJ's like you have fanned the flames of this non-issue non-stop in order to make it a wedge issue in the next election... kinda like the non-existent rampant voter fraud in 2020.  

maineman » 27 Aug 2023, 8:01 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 8:01 pm

all of them talk about America's concerns about woke-ism in the military.  None of them document actual instances of woke-ism actually happening in actual units of the active duty military.  That's because RWNJ's like you have fanned the flames of this non-issue non-stop in order to make it a wedge issue in the next election... kinda like the non-existent rampant voter fraud in 2020.

I just did and YOU denied it!!!
 

Buffalo » 27 Aug 2023, 9:28 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 9:28 pm

I just did and YOU denied it!!!

no...you documented articles where Americans were worried about it. They were spun up about it because of RWNJ's like you!  

maineman » 27 Aug 2023, 9:35 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 9:35 pm

no...you documented articles where Americans were worried about it. They were spun up about it because of RWNJ's like you!

NO... I documented examples of REAL Americans, with REAL Concerns, VOTING with their REAL FEET... in the form of REAL Discharge rates, REAL Enlistment numbers, and REAL Poll Numbers (over the last TWO full years)... and THIS is what they show !!

1.  Long time Military personnel LEAVING the Military,

2.  All branches of the Military finding it HARDER to meet enlistment GOALS, and

3.  MORE people LEANING Republican than there had been in YEARS !!

NONE of these are "hypothetical" or "projected" examples... AND ALL, are REALITY !! 

YOU (and those LIKE you) are just so CONSUMED with your LIBERAL CRAZINESS and IDEAS... YOU REFUSE to accept FACTS !!  VERY SOON it will bite you ALL in the *** !!  WHY?  BECAUSE... AMERICA is PLEADING with you... to START considering what "We the PEOPLE" want... BUT YOU are HELL BENT to do what YOU want.. and DAMN the rest !

WELL... the RECKONING is coming SOON !!
 

maineman » 27 Aug 2023, 8:01 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 8:01 pm

all of them talk about America's concerns about woke-ism in the military.  None of them document actual instances of woke-ism actually happening in actual units of the active duty military.  That's because RWNJ's like you have fanned the flames of this non-issue non-stop in order to make it a wedge issue in the next election... kinda like the non-existent rampant voter fraud in 2020.

ARE YOU KIDDING ?   EVEN Left wing Media are FULL of "WOKEISM" in America...

THAT's because they are PROUD of it... HOWEVER, 90% of Americans ARE NOT proud of it, and REJECT it !!  Dewmocrats are JUSY NOW figuring out that it is NOT popular... and NOW, YOU try to DISOWN what the Media has PUSHED for the last 5 years...

TOO LATE... America KNOWS !!

ConservativeWave » 31 Aug 2023, 9:23 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 9:23 am

ARE YOU KIDDING ?   EVEN Left wing Media are FULL of "WOKEISM" in America...

THAT's because they are PROUD of it... HOWEVER, 90% of Americans ARE NOT proud of it, and REJECT it !!  Dewmocrats are JUSY NOW figuring out that it is NOT popular... and NOW, YOU try to DISOWN what the Media has PUSHED for the last 5 years...

TOO LATE... America KNOWS !!

The fact remains, the US Military is not "woke" and never has been.

maineman » 31 Aug 2023, 9:28 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 9:28 am

The fact remains, the US Military is not "woke" and never has been.

Not only are you full of ****, you are a goddamn LIAR!!!

The Rise of Wokeness in the Military | The Heritage Foundation

The U.S. Military is Going Woke Thanks to 'Elite' Education | Opinion (newsweek.com)