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maineman » 31 Aug 2023, 9:28 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 9:28 am

The fact remains, the US Military is not "woke" and never has been.

I provided a dozen articles showing Military Retirements is WAY UP, Military Recruitment is WAY DOWN, and the military is more Liberal than it has been in DECADES... YOU just DON"T WANT to see the TRUTH...

OR, YOU are just LYING about it and are HOPING that it continues !!

EVEN SO... I don't see the VAST MAJORITY of Americans NOT fighting for AMERICA should PUSH come to shove... and even a Liberal American should be able to KICK a Russians drunken ***... should it be necessary !!

ConservativeWave » 31 Aug 2023, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 12:37 pm

I provided a dozen articles showing Military Retirements is WAY UP, Military Recruitment is WAY DOWN, and the military is more Liberal than it has been in DECADES... YOU just DON"T WANT to see the TRUTH...

OR, YOU are just LYING about it and are HOPING that it continues !!

EVEN SO... I don't see the VAST MAJORITY of Americans NOT fighting for AMERICA should PUSH come to shove... and even a Liberal American should be able to KICK a Russians drunken ***... should it be necessary !!

You offer opinions as fact.  It gets old.  Military retirement has gone up primarily because of the implementation of the B.R.S ... and the fact that a lot of folks are RETIRING from the armed forces means that there are a lot of folks staying around the armed forces for at least twenty years.  

And I was always a liberal.  It did not make me any less effective as a surface warfare officer or a leader.   America has been getting more liberal for the last century, why should the military be any different?

maineman » 31 Aug 2023, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 12:47 pm

You offer opinions as fact.  It gets old.  Military retirement has gone up primarily because of the implementation of the B.R.S ... and the fact that a lot of folks are RETIRING from the armed forces means that there are a lot of folks staying around the armed forces for at least twenty years.  

And I was always a liberal.  It did not make me any less effective as a surface warfare officer or a leader.   America has been getting more liberal for the last century, why should the military be any different?
 

I offer Links to the DATA I reference...  AND... WHAT do YOU provide EXCEPT opinions ?

YOU are TYPICAL LIBERAL though... NO FACTS, NO PROOF, JUST a LIAR to the CORE !

So... HOW MANY SOURCES do you want to see... I could post them all day long... these are JUST a few... SO, YOU STILL say I offer opinions as fact?  I say YOU are a SCUMBAG and a LIAR !!

https://nypost.com/2023/07/18/woke-cult ... less-safe/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/servic ... e-military

https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-mi ... 023-8?op=1

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your ... o-recruit/

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-se ... -military/

MY conclusions... The MILITARY leadership is FIGHTING BACK against the attacks that "the military is going TOO WOKE".. BUT, all branches of the military are missing their recruiting goals, and they KNOW the cause is the perception of WOKEIZM...  YOU can TRY to LIE to the American people... but they KNOW what's happening.. and they will SHOW their concern ONEWAY or another !!  MANY JUST WILL NOT SERVE in a WOKE Democrat controlled military !!

AND... Regarding TRUMP, Republicans and the polls... For the lart 3 years, Republicans have been gaining ground, trump is becoming MORE popular, and DEMOCRATS are NOT !!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-poll ... 023-08-20/

https://news.gallup.com/poll/388781/pol ... -2021.aspx

https://news.gallup.com/poll/467897/par ... t-gop.aspx

I'm about the TRUTH... and YOUR BULL **** will NEVER sway me... Because YOU are a LIBERAL  IDIOT... and I'm NOT !!
 

maineman » 31 Aug 2023, 9:28 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 9:28 am

The fact remains, the US Military is not "woke" and never has been.

The "FACTS" seem to call YOU a LIAR !!

America and Americans KNOW:

1.  What WOKEIZM is,
2.  WHO started it, AND that
3.  THEY DON'T LIKE IT !!

YOU and YOUR Democrat friends CREATED it, PUSHED it, GLORIFIED it, and TRIED to IMPLEMENT it...

NOW, have FUN trying to RUN AWAY from it !!!
 

ConservativeWave » 01 Sep 2023, 7:01 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 7:01 am

The "FACTS" seem to call YOU a LIAR !!

America and Americans KNOW:

1.  What WOKEIZM is,
2.  WHO started it, AND that
3.  THEY DON'T LIKE IT !!

YOU and YOUR Democrat friends CREATED it, PUSHED it, GLORIFIED it, and TRIED to IMPLEMENT it...

NOW, have FUN trying to RUN AWAY from it !!!

It is all part of the magic negro's "fundamental transformation of America"!!!
 

ConservativeWave » 01 Sep 2023, 7:01 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 7:01 am

The "FACTS" seem to call YOU a LIAR !!

America and Americans KNOW:

1.  What WOKEIZM is,
2.  WHO started it, AND that
3.  THEY DON'T LIKE IT !!

YOU and YOUR Democrat friends CREATED it, PUSHED it, GLORIFIED it, and TRIED to IMPLEMENT it...

NOW, have FUN trying to RUN AWAY from it !!!

You seem to think that you are the final arbiter of truth and facts.  All you have ever posted is opinion.  I'd love to see you go up to some salty Boatswain's Mate Senior Chief and tell him his Navy is now "woke".... or better yet, some jarhead Gunny Sergeant.    

maineman » 01 Sep 2023, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 8:42 am

You seem to think that you are the final arbiter of truth and facts.  All you have ever posted is opinion.  I'd love to see you go up to some salty Boatswain's Mate Senior Chief and tell him his Navy is now "woke".... or better yet, some jarhead Gunny Sergeant.  

NOT at ALL... I'm just the THORN in the side of CORRUPT SCUMBAG Democrats... that EXPOSES the TRUTH, BACKS IT UP with links and evidence... and CONDEMNS CORRUPT Democrat for being EXACTLY WHAT they ARE !!

LYING, CORRUPT, DISHONEST, ANTI American, SCUMBAG BASTARDS...

I NEVER ask that ANYONE to believe "WHAT I SAY", JUST because I SAY it... WITHOUT any SUPPORTING EVIDENCE and FACTS...

YOU, on the other hand... DO !!

 

maineman » 01 Sep 2023, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 8:42 am

You seem to think that you are the final arbiter of truth and facts.  All you have ever posted is opinion.  I'd love to see you go up to some salty Boatswain's Mate Senior Chief and tell him his Navy is now "woke".... or better yet, some jarhead Gunny Sergeant.  

This video is NOT opinion!!!  The military is **** WOKE, you goddamn LIAR!!!

https://youtu.be/GZskbZKtI9k

The war that matters is already underway. The opponent is not Russian or Chinese. If we lose the current war against the degenerate leftist enemy within, the resulting power vacuum will make WWIII inevitable. But that will only be an epilogue, serving to put what’s left of the West out of its misery.

This is an actual army recruiting video!!!

https://youtu.be/MIYGFSONKbk

Retired Army Lt. Gen. Thomas Spoehr, director of the Heritage Foundation’s Center for National Defense, told Breitbart News in an interview in March, “There is a sense among the American public that the military is becoming increasingly political and that topics such as race and gender equity, critical race theory, and wokeism in general are commanding more attention, at the cost of readiness.”
 
 
 

Buffalo » 01 Sep 2023, 9:42 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 9:42 am

Retired Army Lt. Gen. Thomas Spoehr, director of the Heritage Foundation’s Center for National Defense, told Breitbart News in an interview in March, “There is a sense among the American public that the military is becoming increasingly political and that topics such as race and gender equity, critical race theory, and wokeism in general are commanding more attention, at the cost of readiness.”

Whether there is a sense among the American people that the military is "woke", and whether the military is, in fact, actually "woke" are two different things entirely.  This is just another wedge issue that the right can use to whip up their base.

ConservativeWave » 01 Sep 2023, 9:11 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 9:11 am

NOT at ALL... I'm just the THORN in the side of CORRUPT SCUMBAG Democrats... that EXPOSES the TRUTH, BACKS IT UP with links and evidence... and CONDEMNS CORRUPT Democrat for being EXACTLY WHAT they ARE !!

LYING, CORRUPT, DISHONEST, ANTI American, SCUMBAG BASTARDS...

I NEVER ask that ANYONE to believe "WHAT I SAY", JUST because I SAY it... WITHOUT any SUPPORTING EVIDENCE and FACTS...

YOU, on the other hand... DO !!

 

so... when you gonna go down to the nearest MCRD and tell the gunny sergeant that the Marines are nothing but a bunch of woke ***?    

 

maineman » 01 Sep 2023, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 9:54 am

Whether there is a sense among the American people that the military is "woke", and whether the military is, in fact, actually "woke" are two different things entirely.  This is just another wedge issue that the right can use to whip up their base.

GOOD!!! The "right" needs to whip up their base to whip the looney liberal base!!!

You need to get over your denial!!! The US military has gone going woke recruiting queers, *** and trannys.  I don't give a **** what you say or think, wokey, wokey!!!
 

Buffalo » 01 Sep 2023, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 10:01 am

GOOD!!! The "right" needs to whip up their base to whip the looney liberal base!!!

You need to get over your denial!!! The US military has gone going woke recruiting queers, *** and trannys.  I don't give a **** what you say or think, wokey, wokey!!!

Here is the general YOU quoted:

Go to minute 31 and listen to what HE says about the military being WOKE.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?521954-3/ ... challenges

maineman » 01 Sep 2023, 9:59 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 9:59 am

so... when you gonna go down to the nearest MCRD and tell the gunny sergeant that the Marines are nothing but a bunch of woke ***?  

I think MOST of them would tell ME that THEY are NOT FANS of Joe Biden and the ENTIRE WOKE Democrat COMMANDER & CHIEF establishment...

It doesn't take a ROCKET scientist to see that SOMETHING has changed... and NOT for the better !!

CASE IN POINT... The Afghan RETREAT FIASCO !!

ANALYSIS – Gold Star families of U.S. troops killed in the August 2021 Abbey Gate bombing at the Kabul airport in Afghanistan, are blasting Team Biden excuses over the disastrous retreat. Saturday marked the two-year anniversary of the terrorist attack during Joe Biden's chaotic withdrawal from the country.  At least 183 people were killed in the attack, including the 13 U.S. service members (12 Marines and a sailor).

GRADE:  FAILED !!

AND NOW, TWO YEARS AFTER THE AFGHAN COLLAPSE, WE STILL DON'T HAVE ANSWERS, AND NO ONE HAS BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

https://americanliberty.news/defense-ne ... o/2023/09/

                             

 
 

maineman » 01 Sep 2023, 10:14 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 10:14 am

Here is the general YOU quoted:

Go to minute 31 and listen to what HE says about the military being WOKE.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?521954-3/ ... challenges

LOL!!! The **** must be going to run for office as he speaks out of both sides of his big mouth!!!

Why does the military have recruiting videos depicting queers, *** and trannys then?  
 

Buffalo » 01 Sep 2023, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 10:42 am

LOL!!! The **** must be going to run for office as he speaks out of both sides of his big mouth!!!

Why does the military have recruiting videos depicting queers, *** and trannys then?

YOU quoted him, not me, you **** moron.  

ConservativeWave » 01 Sep 2023, 10:36 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 10:36 am

I think MOST of them would tell ME that THEY are NOT FANS of Joe Biden and the ENTIRE WOKE Democrat COMMANDER & CHIEF establishment...

It doesn't take a ROCKET scientist to see that SOMETHING has changed... and NOT for the better !!

CASE IN POINT... The Afghan RETREAT FIASCO !!

ANALYSIS – Gold Star families of U.S. troops killed in the August 2021 Abbey Gate bombing at the Kabul airport in Afghanistan, are blasting Team Biden excuses over the disastrous retreat. Saturday marked the two-year anniversary of the terrorist attack during Joe Biden's chaotic withdrawal from the country.  At least 183 people were killed in the attack, including the 13 U.S. service members (12 Marines and a sailor).

GRADE:  FAILED !!

AND NOW, TWO YEARS AFTER THE AFGHAN COLLAPSE, WE STILL DON'T HAVE ANSWERS, AND NO ONE HAS BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

https://americanliberty.news/defense-ne ... o/2023/09/

                           

You THINK????  You don't have the balls to actually go down there and tell a gunny sergeant that marines are woke.  I wonder why?

13 gold star families?  Of course they are gonna be upset.  Everyone is upset when servicemembers die in the line of duty.  

Here's what I KNOW:  the leadership of the US military HATED Donald Trump

maineman » 01 Sep 2023, 10:52 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 10:52 am

You THINK????  You don't have the balls to actually go down there and tell a gunny sergeant that marines are woke.  I wonder why?

13 gold star families?  Of course they are gonna be upset.  Everyone is upset when servicemembers die in the line of duty.  

Here's what I KNOW:  the leadership of the US military HATED Donald Trump

The military leaders that hated trump are **** ****** boi cowards.... all **** Obama dick suckers
 

Buffalo » 01 Sep 2023, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 10:42 am

LOL!!! The **** must be going to run for office as he speaks out of both sides of his big mouth!!!

Why does the military have recruiting videos depicting queers, *** and trannys then?

great article:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/04/12/bi ... -generals/

maineman » 01 Sep 2023, 10:52 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 10:52 am

You THINK????  You don't have the balls to actually go down there and tell a gunny sergeant that marines are woke.  I wonder why?

13 gold star families?  Of course they are gonna be upset.  Everyone is upset when servicemembers die in the line of duty.  

Here's what I KNOW:  the leadership of the US military HATED Donald Trump

WHAT I SAID was...  I think MOST of them would tell ME that THEY are NOT FANS of Joe Biden and the ENTIRE WOKE Democrat COMMANDER & CHIEF establishment B.S....

It doesn't take a ROCKET scientist to see that SOMETHING has changed... and NOT for the better !!

CASE IN POINT... The Afghan RETREAT FIASCO !!

ANALYSIS – Gold Star families of U.S. troops killed in the August 2021 Abbey Gate bombing at the Kabul airport in Afghanistan, are blasting Team Biden excuses over the disastrous retreat. Saturday marked the two-year anniversary of the terrorist attack during Joe Biden's chaotic withdrawal from the country.  At least 183 people were killed in the attack, including the 13 U.S. service members (12 Marines and a sailor).

GRADE:  FAILED !!

AND NOW, TWO YEARS AFTER THE AFGHAN COLLAPSE, WE STILL DON'T HAVE ANSWERS, AND NO ONE HAS BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

https://americanliberty.news/defense-ne ... o/2023/09/

 

ConservativeWave » 01 Sep 2023, 12:46 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 12:46 pm

WHAT I SAID was...  I think MOST of them would tell ME that THEY are NOT FANS of Joe Biden and the ENTIRE WOKE Democrat COMMANDER & CHIEF establishment B.S....

It doesn't take a ROCKET scientist to see that SOMETHING has changed... and NOT for the better !!

CASE IN POINT... The Afghan RETREAT FIASCO !!

ANALYSIS – Gold Star families of U.S. troops killed in the August 2021 Abbey Gate bombing at the Kabul airport in Afghanistan, are blasting Team Biden excuses over the disastrous retreat. Saturday marked the two-year anniversary of the terrorist attack during Joe Biden's chaotic withdrawal from the country.  At least 183 people were killed in the attack, including the 13 U.S. service members (12 Marines and a sailor).

GRADE:  FAILED !!

AND NOW, TWO YEARS AFTER THE AFGHAN COLLAPSE, WE STILL DON'T HAVE ANSWERS, AND NO ONE HAS BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

https://americanliberty.news/defense-ne ... o/2023/09/

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/04/12/bi ... -generals/

The military likes Biden a hell of a lot better than Trump.