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maineman » 01 Sep 2023, 10:48 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 10:48 am

YOU quoted him, not me, you **** moron.

NO, he says different things depending who he is talking to, just like a politician...IDIOT!!!

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Buffalo » 01 Sep 2023, 3:41 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 3:41 pm

NO, he says different things depending who he is talking to, just like a politician...IDIOT!!!

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So...you like what he has to say when it supports YOUR opinion, but think he's just a politician when he doesn't?

Have I got that right, cowboy?  

And actually, he didn't even support your position in the quote YOU used.  He merely said that he acknowledged that some American people THOUGHT the military was becoming woke.  He never agreed with that premise and, in the video clip I shoved up your well-traveled ***, he clearly dismisses that as being FALSE.

Don't you hate it when you get hoist with your own petard?    

maineman » 01 Sep 2023, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 1:47 pm

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/04/12/bi ... -generals/

The military likes Biden a hell of a lot better than Trump.

THEN, They ( the NEW LIBERAL Military)... must like it when a JUST ELECTED Democrat President (Joe Biden), scraps the "Pull Out" plans for Afghanistan created by Donald Trump, JUST because he hates the former President so much... ONLY to watch the entire Afghanistan withdrawal process be BOTCHED, and THIRTEEN American soldiers be KILLED... who DID NOT HAVE TO DIE !!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... -rcna73009

THIS HAS NOT been FORGOTTEN !!  INCOMPETENCE and STUPIDITY like this will NEVER be FORGOTTEN... NOT by the families of the NON Americans who supported America AND, who were BUTCHERED because of the CHAOS, NOT by the local nations who WE might need help from in the future and watched in HORROR, NOT by the MILLIONS of Americans who are STILL EMBARRASSED by the FIASCO, and NOT by the families of the soldiers who were KILLED !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWLkIr5Zptc
 
 

ConservativeWave » 01 Sep 2023, 4:19 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 4:19 pm

THEN, They ( the NEW LIBERAL Military)... must like it when a JUST ELECTED Democrat President (Joe Biden), scraps the "Pull Out" plans for Afghanistan created by Donald Trump, JUST because he hates the former President so much... ONLY to watch the entire Afghanistan withdrawal process be BOTCHED, and THIRTEEN American soldiers be KILLED... who DID NOT HAVE TO DIE !!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... -rcna73009

THIS HAS NOT been FORGOTTEN !!  INCOMPETENCE and STUPIDITY like this will NEVER be FORGOTTEN... NOT by the families of the NON Americans who supported America AND, who were BUTCHERED because of the CHAOS, NOT by the local nations who WE might need help from in the future and watched in HORROR, NOT by the MILLIONS of Americans who are STILL EMBARRASSED by the FIASCO, and NOT by the families of the soldiers who were KILLED !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWLkIr5Zptc

The entire military understands that 13 dead servicemen is no reason to blame the President... especially when he had little or nothing to do with the development of the actual withdrawal plan.  That was all on the generals and admirals.  He merely told them to get it done... they decided how to do it.

Remember... Trump was the guy who at his very first meeting with the JCS, said to that group of flag officers, "YOU'RE ALL LOSERS"  Those of us who wear or wore the uniform will never forget THAT.

maineman » 01 Sep 2023, 4:44 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 4:44 pm

The entire military understands that 13 dead servicemen is no reason to blame the President... especially when he had little or nothing to do with the development of the actual withdrawal plan.  That was all on the generals and admirals.  He merely told them to get it done... they decided how to do it.

Remember... Trump was the guy who at his very first meeting with the JCS, said to that group of flag officers, "YOU'RE ALL LOSERS"  Those of us who wear or wore the uniform will never forget THAT.
 

1)  The entire military "understands"?  ...If they DO they're IDIOTS !!

2)  Had little or nothing to do with it?   ...Donald Trump had a GREAT PLAN, theur were training to implement it... but Joe Biden TERMINATED IT !!

3)  All on the Generals and Admirals?  ...Terminating Trumps plan WAS NOT something the Generals & Admirals had the AUTHORITY to do !!

4)  Told them to get it done, then forgot about it?  ...Donald Trump worked WITH the Military to plan the withdrawl... SO, It WAS Biden's FAULT !!

5)  I don't remember Trump saying anything of the sort... "YOU'RE ALL LOSERS"...  that BUT if he did, they were probably Obama JCS holdovers, and DESERVED to be called that.. Especially if THAT was the pool that the CURRENT JCS were chosen from !!

6)  For some reason, I picture YOU in uniform,  as a LOSER... Maybe NOW I KNOW what Donald Trump was THINKING... Just because you WEAR the uniform, DOES NOT make you worthy to wear it... or SMART !!

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... -pullout-/

ConservativeWave » 01 Sep 2023, 8:54 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 8:54 pm

1)  The entire military "understands"?  ...If they DO they're IDIOTS !!

2)  Had little or nothing to do with it?   ...Donald Trump had a GREAT PLAN, theur were training to implement it... but Joe Biden TERMINATED IT !!

3)  All on the Generals and Admirals?  ...Terminating Trumps plan WAS NOT something the Generals & Admirals had the AUTHORITY to do !!

4)  Told them to get it done, then forgot about it?  ...Donald Trump worked WITH the Military to plan the withdrawl... SO, It WAS Biden's FAULT !!

5)  I don't remember Trump saying anything of the sort... "YOU'RE ALL LOSERS"...  that BUT if he did, they were probably Obama JCS holdovers, and DESERVED to be called that.. Especially if THAT was the pool that the CURRENT JCS were chosen from !!

6)  For some reason, I picture YOU in uniform,  as a LOSER... Maybe NOW I KNOW what Donald Trump was THINKING... Just because you WEAR the uniform, DOES NOT make you worthy to wear it... or SMART !!

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... -pullout-/

Donald Trump worked with the military to plan the withdrawal?    

I'd like a bowl of whatever YOU'RE smoking!

maineman » 02 Sep 2023, 7:10 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 7:10 am

Donald Trump worked with the military to plan the withdrawal?    

I'd like a bowl of whatever YOU'RE smoking!

biden and milley have blood on their hands.... milley deserves the firing squad

maineman » 02 Sep 2023, 7:10 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 7:10 am

Donald Trump worked with the military to plan the withdrawal?    

I'd like a bowl of whatever YOU'RE smoking!

You have no clue even what Trump's plan was and the stipulations that the withdrawal was based on because braindead biden, your hero, abandoned them and **** up the withdrawal getting 100s of people needlessly KILLED!!!Inside the Afghanistan debacle: Biden abandoned Trump’s pullout planFamilies hide for lives; allies blame U.S. for shameful defeat to Taliban

Afghanistan debacle: Biden Abandoned Trump pullout plan - Washington Times

Your TDS blinds you to the reality of brandead biden's continual **** UPS!!!  From the border crisis, to the Afghanistan withdrawal, to his war on fossil fuels, to his **** up of the economy for the working and middle class while his wealthy elite backers get richer.  YOU are **** up in the head!!!
 
 
 

Buffalo » 02 Sep 2023, 8:47 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 8:47 am

You have no clue even what Trump's plan was and the stipulations that the withdrawal was based on because braindead biden, your hero, abandoned them and **** up the withdrawal getting 100s of people needlessly KILLED!!!Inside the Afghanistan debacle: Biden abandoned Trump’s pullout planFamilies hide for lives; allies blame U.S. for shameful defeat to Taliban

Afghanistan debacle: Biden Abandoned Trump pullout plan - Washington Times

Your TDS blinds you to the reality of brandead biden's continual **** UPS!!!  From the border crisis, to the Afghanistan withdrawal, to his war on fossil fuels, to his **** up of the economy for the working and middle class while his wealthy elite backers get richer.  YOU are **** up in the head!!!

worth repeating:

Actually, YOU have no clue what Trump's plan was and the stipulations that the withdrawal was based on.   
 

maineman » 02 Sep 2023, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 9:03 am

worth repeating:

Actually, YOU have no clue what Trump's plan was and the stipulations that the withdrawal was based on. 

Actually YOU, with your terminal TDS havve no clue!!!

This from the CFR:What did the United States and the Taliban agree to?Following nine rounds of discussions, negotiators signed a peace agreement in February 2020 that addresses four main issues:

• Cease-fire. Negotiators agreed to a temporary reduction in violence and said that a lasting cease-fire among U.S., Taliban, and Afghan forces will be part of intra-Afghan negotiations.
• Withdrawal of foreign forces. The United States agreed to reduce its number of troops in the country from roughly 12,000 to 8,600 within 135 days. If the Taliban follows through on its commitments, all U.S. and other foreign troops will leave Afghanistan within fourteen months. Experts have cautioned that pulling troops out too quickly could be destabilizing.
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• Intra-Afghan negotiations. The Taliban agreed to start talks with the Afghan government in March 2020. Throughout the negotiating process, the Taliban had resisted direct talks with the government, calling it an American puppet. But the Taliban has more recently indicated that talks are possible, with deputy Taliban leader Sirajuddin Haqqani writing in a New York Times op-ed, “If we can reach an agreement with a foreign enemy, we must be able to resolve intra-Afghan disagreements through talks.”
• Counterterrorism assurances. The United States invaded Afghanistan following the September 11, 2001, attacks largely to eliminate the threat of terrorism, so it seeks to halt terrorist activities in the country, including by al-Qaeda and the self-proclaimed Islamic State. As part of the agreement, the Taliban guaranteed that Afghanistan will not be used by any of its members, other individuals, or terrorist groups to threaten the security of the United States and its allies.

U.S. officials have also stressed protecting women’s rights. Prior to the 2001 overthrow of the Taliban, the group shuttered girls’ schools and prevented women from working, among other abuses. This issue could be discussed during intra-Afghan talks.

U.S.-Taliban Peace Deal: What to Know | Council on Foreign Relations (cfr.org)

**** YOU!!! YOU ARE NO LONGER WORTH MY TIME WITH YOUR **** UP LIBERAL BRAINDEAD BIDEN *** KISSING AND TERMINAL TDS!!! 
 
 

maineman » 02 Sep 2023, 7:10 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 7:10 am

Donald Trump worked with the military to plan the withdrawal?    

I'd like a bowl of whatever YOU'RE smoking!

YOU need to look at the FACTS... rather than you OPINIONS, of what the TRUTH is...

What it looks like, is the TRUMP agreement was set, and would have worked... but Joe Biden was NOT the President that Donald Trump was.. and when the Taliban pushed Joe Biden... Joe Biden did NOT know how to respond.

Donald Trump FOUGHT and defeated ISIS during his term... and was therefore RESPECTED by the Taliban... THEY did NOT respect Joe Biden !  If the Taliban would have done anything provocative.. Trump would have taken action... Joe Biden however, was NOT Donald Trump... and when they (the Taliban) did provocative action... Joe Biden PANICKED... He took no DETERRENCE action , and the entire PLAN fell apart !

From the articles:Trump:  “We controlled everything. And they [the Taliban] were afraid to move. They wouldn’t have moved,” Trump told Fox News on Aug. 26. “They wouldn’t have done a thing [without] my approval. Everything they did was conditions-based, conditions-based. And the biggest condition, you can’t kill Americans.” 

Trump:  Slammed President Biden for not “following the plan” the former administration left for him regarding withdrawal from Afghanistan.    “He ran out of Afghanistan instead of following the plan our Administration left for him Pompeo:  the Trump administration had a “model of deterrence” in place to prevent a chaotic withdrawal. He said the Biden administration had been unable to execute the plan.
 Pence:  Claimed that the Biden administration had violated the Trump-Taliban agreement.


https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... e-left-on/

https://dailycaller.com/2021/09/01/dona ... joe-biden/

PROLOGUE:   it was ULTIMATELY on Joe Biden's watch, HE was President and held power when it happened (NOT Donald Trump), and HE ultimately SCREWED it up BIG TIME... IT'S NOW NO ONES responsibility... EXCEPT Joe Biden and HIS Keystone COP Generals !!

From the article:

"Biden’s judgment as commander-in-chief is being called into question since he is on record, in damning video footage, saying that the Taliban’s victory was “not inevitable.” He said there would be no Saigon-style pictures of helicopters lifting off the roof of the US embassy in Kabul. That exact scenario unfolded this weekend after the US rushed to get its people out, and the Stars and Stripes was run down the flagpole as the fundamentalist militia routed by the United States in 2001, surged back into the Afghan capital."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/16/politics ... index.html

And what's more... It's ALL TRUE !!

SO... WHAT the HELL are YOU smoking?  YOU IDIOT !!

 

Buffalo » 02 Sep 2023, 9:24 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 9:24 am

**** YOU!!! YOU ARE NO LONGER WORTH MY TIME WITH YOUR **** UP LIBERAL BRAINDEAD BIDEN *** KISSING AND TERMINAL TDS!!!

would that that were true!

But we both know you'll be humping my leg again real soon!  
 

maineman » 02 Sep 2023, 10:29 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 10:29 am

would that that were true!

But we both know you'll be humping my leg again real soon!

YOU are a MORON... a TRUE BRAINWASHED, BRAIN DEAD, LIBERAL IDIOT !!

Lets HOPE that MOST of Americas Democrats are SMARTER, than YOU are !