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An Atlanta-area grand jury returned an indictment Monday night after hearing from witnesses earlier in the day in the probe into whether former president Donald Trump and his associates broke the law when they sought to overturn Trump’s 2020 election loss in Georgia. Who has been indicted and the exact charges are not yet known.

 The high-profile investigation, led by Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis (D), is widely expected to result in multiple charges for several defendants — including Trump and several close associates.
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No jubilation here, from me.

Georgia has a grudge against Trump.

The fool almost certainly lost Georgia because he urged Republicans to not vote early.  

Then when he lost Georgia, they counted the votes three times, and he lost three times.

His call to the Georgia Secretary of State was unethical, immoral and wrong.  

But how could he corruptly influence an official when the election was long over, done, and closed?

Don’t confuse Fulton Georgia with Trump having false Georgia electors.  He’s guilty beyond doubt of that, and that’s the Washington DC federal case.
 

Bruce » 14 Aug 2023, 8:56 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 8:56 pm

An Atlanta-area grand jury returned an indictment Monday night after hearing from witnesses earlier in the day in the probe into whether former president Donald Trump and his associates broke the law when they sought to overturn Trump’s 2020 election loss in Georgia. Who has been indicted and the exact charges are not yet known.

 The high-profile investigation, led by Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis (D), is widely expected to result in multiple charges for several defendants — including Trump and several close associates.
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No jubilation here, from me.

Georgia has a grudge against Trump.

The fool almost certainly lost Georgia because he urged Republicans to not vote early.  

Then when he lost Georgia, they counted the votes three times, and he lost three times.

His call to the Georgia Secretary of State was unethical, immoral and wrong.  

But how could he corruptly influence an official when the election was long over, done, and closed?

Don’t confuse Fulton Georgia with Trump having false Georgia electors.  He’s guilty beyond doubt of that, and that’s the Washington DC federal case.

Millions & millions of No I.D. Mail-in Ballots.
Never been done before.
Is that how to turn an election to your favor ?
By cheating ??
Do Dems have 81 million registered voters ?? (no, I don't think that they do).

Taipan » 14 Aug 2023, 9:14 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 9:14 pm

Millions & millions of No I.D. Mail-in Ballots.
Never been done before.
Is that how to turn an election to your favor ?
By cheating ??
Do Dems have 81 million registered voters ?? (no, I don't think that they do).

The issue is should one prosecutor in one county in Georgia have the power to put a former President in a Georgia prison for the rest of his life when he made a phone call from Washington DC.

Yes, the Georgia Secretary of State was in Atalanta, on the phone.

Taipan » 14 Aug 2023, 9:14 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 9:14 pm

Millions & millions of No I.D. Mail-in Ballots.
Never been done before.
Is that how to turn an election to your favor ?
By cheating ??
Do Dems have 81 million registered voters ?? (no, I don't think that they do).

And ballot harvesting...  not to mention, the tracking of people leaving Stacy Abrams offices and going directly to drop boxes, over and over. 
What were THEY doing?
 

golfboy » 14 Aug 2023, 9:40 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 9:40 pm

And ballot harvesting...  not to mention, the tracking of people leaving Stacy Abrams offices and going directly to drop boxes, over and over. 
What were THEY doing?

Georgia is one of the three states whose governor does not have the authority to grant clemency, although the governor retains indirect influence by virtue of his power to appoint board members.

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If convicted Trump must serve his sentence in Georgia.
 
Five years of good conduct after his release, Trump can petition the Georgia Board of Pardons for a pardon.

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To qualify for a Pardon for offenses other than sex offenses which require you to be listed on Georgia's Sex Offender Registry: You must have completed all sentence(s) at least five (5) years prior to applying. You must have lived a law-abiding life during the five (5) years prior to applying.
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Geezus.

I’m not a Trump fan, but he should now seek a deal in all four cases.

Otherwise he will die in a Georgia prison.

Bruce » 14 Aug 2023, 9:51 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 9:51 pm

Georgia is one of the three states whose governor does not have the authority to grant clemency, although the governor retains indirect influence by virtue of his power to appoint board members.

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If convicted Trump must serve his sentence in Georgia.
 
Five years of good conduct after his release, Trump can petition the Georgia Board of Pardons for a pardon.

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To qualify for a Pardon for offenses other than sex offenses which require you to be listed on Georgia's Sex Offender Registry: You must have completed all sentence(s) at least five (5) years prior to applying. You must have lived a law-abiding life during the five (5) years prior to applying.
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Geezus.

I’m not a Trump fan, but he should now seek a deal in all four cases.

Otherwise he will die in a Georgia prison.

 

The board of Pardons could be a good thing, because Kemp wouldn't have any say.

 

golfboy » 14 Aug 2023, 10:00 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 10:00 pm

The board of Pardons could be a good thing, because Kemp wouldn't have any say.

Five years after he serves all his sentence.
 
The President of the USA cannot pardon him for Georgia crimes.

No stay of office applies.

The GOP has to make Trump ineligible  now to be nominated.  

He’s been indicted with 18 others in a 41 count indictment that includes forgery of electoral votes, which he undoubtedly did, no question.

What a sloppy *** process.

Warcok » 14 Aug 2023, 10:08 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 10:08 pm

What a sloppy *** process.

The darkies do seem to have boxed him in.

The 18 others will all make deals.  

They can’t be pardoned, even if Trump wins.

They’ll have to serve every day of their sentence in Georgia.

Sing one Hank Jr!

https://youtu.be/W91RCYt94wI

Bruce » 14 Aug 2023, 10:13 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 10:13 pm

The darkies do seem to have boxed him in.

The 18 others will all make deals.  

They can’t be pardoned, even if Trump wins.

They’ll have to serve every day of their sentence in Georgia.

Sing one Hank Jr!

https://youtu.be/W91RCYt94wI

Georgia Supreme Court is 100% patriotic appointed conservatives
 

Warcok » 14 Aug 2023, 10:19 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 10:19 pm

Georgia Supreme Court is 100% patriotic appointed conservatives

That will 100% uphold the law.

Georgia counted the votes three times for Trump.

He is ****.

No way the Georgia Supreme Court rules a valid Georgia election was actually fraudulent 

The gang of 19

All must appear before noon Friday, or be arrested.

Donald Trump

Rudy Guiliani

John Eastman

Mark Meadows

Kenneth Chesebro

Jeffrey Clark

Jenna Ellis

Ray Smith III

Robert Cheeley

Michael Roman

David Shafer

Shawn Still

Stephen Lee

Harrison Floyd

Trevian Kutti

Sidney Powell

Cathy Latham

Scott Hall

Misty Hampton
 

It's okay by me to hold all accountable no matter what................... no white collar preferential garbage allowed

All 19 will need a lot of money to secure representation ......... 
 

razoo » 14 Aug 2023, 10:59 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 10:59 pm

It's okay by me to hold all accountable no matter what................... no white collar preferential garbage allowed

All 19 will need a lot of money to secure representation .........

This is a RICO charge, kind of like felony murder.

First, the state proves two or more crimes acts.

Trump and his crackpot lawyers did dozens, hundreds.  

But two are enough.


Then prove 19 people were in on the team, knew they were part of a gang.  Hell, Trump probably had a hundred.  They chose 18 of the worst of the worst of the worst.

Now, all 19 are responsible for 1 crime any of them did.

****.

There are minimum mandatory sentences for Georgia RICO.

There are intelligent people not so drunk with Trump on the RNC that are going to start calling for a rule change.

No candidate can face more than three pending indictments and be nominated.
 

Trump created a campaign to keep money coming in to pay legal counsel and to " use campaign" dates as a means to keep lying last but not least those pardons that his soldiers are waiting for........

"President" is for his arrogant ego = he's not worth a ****. AND he may take his children down with him and his BOEING jet.
 

Now we wait for the Jan 6th Insider Terrorist Attack on capitol hill to come.........

Bannon
Roger Dodger
Manafort 
Flynn
Mark Meadows
Kevin McCarthy
Greene
Jordan
Rudy
Boebert
 and more sure to come .........................

 

razoo » 15 Aug 2023, 12:41 am » wrote: ↑

15 Aug 2023, 12:41 am

Now we wait for the Jan 6th Insider Terrorist Attack on capitol hill to come.........

I’ve been reading Fox tonight.

Their main defense is an early release of the indictment.

They do live in a bubble they create, but tomorrow some sane lawyer at Fox will read it and say

Fuuuwwwwkk!

There’s no stay if Trump wins in 2024

No way to be pardoned in Georgia 

No way the Georgia Supreme Court will stop a RICO trial

The jury will be nearly all black Democrats.

Trump and the 18 others did every thing charged beyond doubt, they bragged they did it

The Fox News business plan must consider the Donald is going to die in a Georgia prison.

Like the gangster he is.
 

Bruce » 14 Aug 2023, 10:06 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2023, 10:06 pm

Five years after he serves all his sentence.
 
The President of the USA cannot pardon him for Georgia crimes.

No stay of office applies.

The GOP has to make Trump ineligible  now to be nominated.  

He’s been indicted with 18 others in a 41 count indictment that includes forgery of electoral votes, which he undoubtedly did, no question.

if trump  gets  a guilty verdict he can't get security clearance and and cannot have classified documents.

Bruce » 15 Aug 2023, 12:51 am » wrote: ↑

15 Aug 2023, 12:51 am

Trump and the 18 others did every thing charged beyond doubt, they bragged they did it

The Fox News business plan must consider the Donald is going to die in a Georgia prison.

Like the gangster he is.

yep
 

if you are a registered democrat, it is you duty to turn your neighbors and family members in, who broke any usa empire law. gossip is more than enough evidence to have them locked up.