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Beekeeper » 17 Aug 2023, 5:52 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 5:52 am

2Timothy 4:3

3 The time will come when people will not listen to the truth. They will look for teachers who will tell them only what they want to hear. 4 They will not listen to the truth. Instead, they will listen to stories made up by men.

You do know who Timothy was?

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Timothy was from the Lycaonian city of Lystra[10] or of Derbe[2][3] in Asia Minor, born of a Jewish mother who had become a Christian believer, and a Greek father. The Apostle Paul met him during his second missionary journey and he became Paul's companion and missionary partner along with Silas.[11] 

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Today we’d call Timothy one of the young Greek boys who Paul travelled around with, while Paul was explaining to churches that Paul had no lust for women.

This is why my father would never allow the preacher to quote Paul or all those Greek boys he travelled with to the the congregation where little boys were present.  Only adults could read anything  Paul and his Greek boys said in the adult classes.

But the Greek boy Timothy was right.

People will lie their asses off, won’t they?
 
 

Bruce » 17 Aug 2023, 6:03 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 6:03 am

You do know who Timothy was?

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Timothy was from the Lycaonian city of Lystra[10] or of Derbe[2][3] in Asia Minor, born of a Jewish mother who had become a Christian believer, and a Greek father. The Apostle Paul met him during his second missionary journey and he became Paul's companion and missionary partner along with Silas.[11] 

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Today we’d call Timothy one of the young Greek boys who Paul travelled around with, while Paul was explaining to churches that Paul had no lust for women.

This is why my father would never allow the preacher to quote Paul or all those Greek boys he travelled with to the the congregation where little boys were present.  Only adults could read anything  Paul and his Greek boys said in the adult classes.

But the Greek boy Timothy was right.

People will lie their asses off, won’t they?

So what you are saying is that YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE THE TRUTH and instead subscribe to the "lie" that Paul warned would be believed in 2Timothy 4:3,4 .

Which fully explains your diatribe about what Paul and Timothy "might have been" rather than accepting TRUTH in any form you see.

It must REALLY SUCK being you, seeing how you are the **** we all see.

Beekeeper » 17 Aug 2023, 5:52 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 5:52 am

2Timothy 4:3

3 The time will come when people will not listen to the truth. They will look for teachers who will tell them only what they want to hear. 4 They will not listen to the truth. Instead, they will listen to stories made up by men.

Almost like they were foretelling the Democrat story.

Squatchman » 17 Aug 2023, 3:33 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 3:33 am

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
. You poor,poor rube.
  What matters is what he says on the witness stand in trump's trial.
Under oath.

IN A CRIMINAL LEFTIST JUDICIAL SYSTEM

POOR SQUIRTBOY - DEFENDER OF *** AND STREET THUGS
 
 

Bruce » 16 Aug 2023, 7:02 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 7:02 pm

Truth:

https://youtu.be/cHZd34refwI

That's not truth that's Pence fighting for his political life while simultaneously destroying it .....

How can you take pleasure in that statement that this is the best money we ever spent killing Russians. This is not defense. These are the words of a psychopath in my mind. . . . They are not about to accept anybody who is going to be against war. The neocons are in full control of the government—period. We are living in the time of a coup. The United States is not the free country you thought it was. . . .”

Armstrong also predicts that the neocons will rig the 2024 election so Biden (or some other neocon) gets a second term. Is there any way to stop this election rigging and fraud in 2024? Armstrong says, “I don’t believe so. Our computers show that holy hell breaks loose starting in 2025. I think the problem will be the cheating will be in everybody’s face this time.”

https://usawatchdog.com/living-in-a-cou ... armstrong/

Beekeeper » 17 Aug 2023, 6:14 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 6:14 am

So what you are saying is that YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE THE TRUTH and instead subscribe to the "lie" that Paul warned would be believed in 2Timothy 4:3,4 .

Which fully explains your diatribe about what Paul and Timothy "might have been" rather than accepting TRUTH in any form you see.

It must REALLY SUCK being you, seeing how you are the **** we all see.

Paul was a middle aged man who used to be named Saul, when he persecuted Christians.  Then Paul started writing letters to a group of Greek boys he travelled around with, most of them young enough to be his children.  What do you tell an intelligent eight year about Paul’s famous advice it’s better to marry than to burn?  Our church encouraged marriage between men and women.  All the men in there liked women, unlike Paul, who said he had no desire for women.

That’s why the Christian Church only discusses Paul and his Greek boys in the adult classes.

But Paul gave Timothy good advice, men don’t seek truth today.

Do men seek truth in Wikipedia?

Certificate of Ascertainment

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certifi ... ertainment


In the United States, a certificate of ascertainment is an official document that identifies a state's appointed electors for U.S. President and Vice President, and the final vote count for each candidate that received popular votes.[1]

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Trump asked Mike Pence to not count seven official Certificates  of Ascertainment from seven states including  Georgia who voted them for Biden.

Instead, dozens of conspirators in seven states had made up false certificates of ascertainment (which Georgia has state laws calling them forgeries) and Trump wanted Pence to declare Trump the winner.

 Mike Pence was raised up Catholic. He can read the constitution.  Pence has a wife he loves very much, and children. He wanted to go back to Mother in Indiana and not to prison. 

So Mike told Trump to go **** himself, in nicer words.


 

But...but...but you are spreading the Great Lie! 

You ever notice that the left media overdoes their narrative when it comes to the 2020 election fraud. They go out of their way to scream that it is a lie. To the point that they look suspicious about it. 

Bruce » 17 Aug 2023, 9:12 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 9:12 am

Paul was a middle aged man who used to be named Saul, when he persecuted Christians.  Then Paul started writing letters to a group of Greek boys he travelled around with, most of them young enough to be his children.  What do you tell an intelligent eight year about Paul’s famous advice it’s better to marry than to burn?  Our church encouraged marriage between men and women.  All the men in there liked women, unlike Paul, who said he had no desire for women.

That’s why the Christian Church only discusses Paul and his Greek boys in the adult classes.

But Paul gave Timothy good advice, men don’t seek truth today.

Do men seek truth in Wikipedia?

Certificate of Ascertainment

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certifi ... ertainment

In the United States, a certificate of ascertainment is an official document that identifies a state's appointed electors for U.S. President and Vice President, and the final vote count for each candidate that received popular votes.[1]

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Trump asked Mike Pence to not count seven official Certificates  of Ascertainment from seven states including  Georgia who voted them for Biden.

Instead, dozens of conspirators in seven states had made up false certificates of ascertainment (which Georgia has state laws calling them forgeries) and Trump wanted Pence to declare Trump the winner.

 Mike Pence was raised up Catholic. He can read the constitution.  Pence has a wife he loves very much, and children. He wanted to go back to Mother in Indiana and not to prison. 

So Mike told Trump to go **** himself, in nicer words.

Truth!

Vegas » 17 Aug 2023, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 9:15 am

But...but...but you are spreading the Great Lie! 

You ever notice that the left media overdoes their narrative when it comes to the 2020 election fraud. They go out of their way to scream that it is a lie. To the point that they look suspicious about it.

Suspicious?  Only to koolaid soaked MAGAts who still believe it.  

From my perspective, there is nothing suspicious about calling what happened on January 6th a failed insurrection and, if I were the AG, I'd have thrown the whole lot of them in jail and would have executed the treasonous ringleaders months ago.

Bob » 17 Aug 2023, 8:03 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 8:03 am

How can you take pleasure in that statement that this is the best money we ever spent killing Russians. This is not defense. These are the words of a psychopath in my mind. . . . They are not about to accept anybody who is going to be against war. The neocons are in full control of the government—period. We are living in the time of a coup. The United States is not the free country you thought it was. . . .”

Armstrong also predicts that the neocons will rig the 2024 election so Biden (or some other neocon) gets a second term. Is there any way to stop this election rigging and fraud in 2024? Armstrong says, “I don’t believe so. Our computers show that holy hell breaks loose starting in 2025. I think the problem will be the cheating will be in everybody’s face this time.”

https://usawatchdog.com/living-in-a-cou ... armstrong/

War is very not Christian. Christ was a pacifist, who advised turning the other cheek and walking the extra mile.

So the Christians in the USA are never going to invade Russia and start raping and plundering like the Russians invaded Ukraine last year.

But even Mike Pence supports Ukraine

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"I know there was a little bit of fake news parsing on the internet on that debate Friday, but it fortunately got cleaned up," Pence said the Monday after the event on Larry Kudlow's FOX Business show. "My focus is on this country and my call to support the Ukrainian military, to let them make the fight. I don't want to see the day that our men and women in uniform have to go fight that Russian army because they crossed the wrong border."

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Sing one for Mike Pence and our boys on the Polish border, Charlie and Ira !

https://youtu.be/hgOvZ-yhtzM

maineman » 17 Aug 2023, 9:25 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 9:25 am

Suspicious?  Only to koolaid soaked MAGAts who still believe it.  

From my perspective, there is nothing suspicious about calling what happened on January 6th a failed insurrection and, if I were the AG, I'd have thrown the whole lot of them in jail and would have executed the treasonous ringleaders months ago.

So you are going to deflect to Jan 6th. When you feel like addressing my point, come get me. 

Vegas » 17 Aug 2023, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 9:15 am

But...but...but you are spreading the Great Lie! 

You ever notice that the left media overdoes their narrative when it comes to the 2020 election fraud. They go out of their way to scream that it is a lie. To the point that they look suspicious about it.

Suspicious enough for you to research it like you do the moon landing?

Trump is out there today, claiming he was justified having seven false Certificates of Ascertainment forged by unauthorized electors in seven states.

Trump calls those Certificates of Ascertainment “alternate electors”.

But a prosecutor in Atlanta Georgia has them, or will have them, and under Georgia law there’s one real one for Biden and Trump’s is called a felony forgery.

 Would you say Trump told a Big Lie?

 
 

A vice president does not have that authority .......................

Vegas » 17 Aug 2023, 9:29 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 9:29 am

So you are going to deflect to Jan 6th. When you feel like addressing my point, come get me.

January 6th happened because a whole **** load of folks believed the big lie that the democrats somehow stole the election.  And a whole **** load of THOSE folks still DO believe it, although not as many today as then.

maineman » 17 Aug 2023, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 9:50 am

January 6th happened because a whole **** load of folks believed the big lie that the democrats somehow stole the election.  And a whole **** load of THOSE folks still DO believe it, although not as many today as then.

that **** pig cop that shot an unarmed woman needs to go to jail

maineman » 17 Aug 2023, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 9:50 am

January 6th happened because a whole **** load of folks believed the big lie that the democrats somehow stole the election.  And a whole **** load of THOSE folks still DO believe it, although not as many today as then.

Let’s also agree that in a few years the only ones that will believe the big lie about the 2020 election will be those who will still believe the earth is flat and the Protocols of the  Elders of Zion are real.

—-The Protocols of the Elders of Zion(Протоколы сионских мудрецов) or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion is an antisemitic forgery purporting to detail a Jewish plot for global domination. Largely plagiarized from several earlier sources, it was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. It played a key part in popularizing belief in an international Jewish conspiracy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pro ... rs_of_Zion

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My mother must have taught me the world is round and Jew hating is evil before I can remember her doing it.

I’m sure and certain every Christian mother today teaches her children the truth about Trump before they start kindergarten and get exposed to other children who don’t know what truth is.

Bruce » 17 Aug 2023, 9:59 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 9:59 am

Let’s also agree that in a few years the only ones that will believe the big lie about the 2020 election will be those who will still believe the earth is flat and the Protocols of the  Elders of Zion are real.

—-The Protocols of the Elders of Zion(Протоколы сионских мудрецов) or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion is an antisemitic forgery purporting to detail a Jewish plot for global domination. Largely plagiarized from several earlier sources, it was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. It played a key part in popularizing belief in an international Jewish conspiracy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pro ... rs_of_Zion

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My mother must have taught me the world is round and Jew hating is evil before I can remember her doing it.

I’m sure and certain every Christian mother today teaches her children the truth about Trump before they start kindergarten and get exposed to other children who don’t know what truth is.

Bruce aka willfranklin

FJB » 17 Aug 2023, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 9:55 am

that **** pig cop that shot an unarmed woman needs to go to jail

 WASHINGTON (AP) — The first time Celeste Norris laid eyes on Ashli Babbitt, the future insurrectionist had just rammed her vehicle three times with an SUV and was pounding on the window, challenging her to a fight.Norris says the bad blood between them began in 2015, when Babbitt engaged in a monthslong extramarital affair with Norris' longtime live-in boyfriend. When she learned of the relationship, Norris called Babbitt's husband and told him she was cheating.

 "She pulls up yelling and screaming," Norris said in an exclusive interview with The Associated Press, recounting the July 29, 2016, road-rage incident in Prince Frederick, Maryland. "It took me a good 30 seconds to figure out who she was. … Just all sorts of expletives, telling me to get out of the car, that she was going to beat my ***." Babbitt was later charged with numerous misdemeanors.

 The attack on Norris is an example of erratic and sometimes threatening behavior by Babbitt, who was shot by a police officer while at the vanguard of the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol. Former President Donald Trump and his supporters have sought to portray her as a righteous martyr who was unjustly killed. The officer who shot her was cleared of any wrongdoing by two federal investigations.

 But the life of the Air Force veteran from California who died while wearing a Trump campaign flag wrapped around her shoulders like a cape, was far more complicated than the heroic portrait presented by Trump and his allies.

 In the months before her death, Babbitt had become consumed by pro-Trump conspiracy theories and posted angry screeds on social media. She also had a history of making violent threats.

 Babbitt, 35, was fatally shot while attempting to climb through the broken window of a barricaded door leading to the Speaker's Lobby inside the Capitol, where police officers were evacuating members of Congress from the mob supporting Trump's false claim that the 2020 presidential election was stolen.
 
 
 

maineman » 17 Aug 2023, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 9:50 am

January 6th happened because a whole **** load of folks believed the big lie that the democrats somehow stole the election.  And a whole **** load of THOSE folks still DO believe it, although not as many today as then.

Jan 6th is looking more and more like a set up from you morons.