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PENCE ADMITS VOTER CORRUPTION AND COULD HAVE REJECTED THE 2020 ELECTORS
PENCE ADMITS VOTER CORRUPTION AND COULD HAVE REJECTED THE 2020 ELECTORS
By righteous
16 Aug 2023 6:53 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
17 Aug 2023 10:20 am
Bruce » 17 Aug 2023, 9:40 am » wrote: ↑ Suspicious enough for you to research it like you do the moon landing?
Trump is out there today, claiming he was justified having seven false Certificates of Ascertainment forged by unauthorized electors in seven states.
Trump calls those Certificates of Ascertainment “alternate electors”.
But a prosecutor in Atlanta Georgia has them, or will have them, and under Georgia law there’s one real one for Biden and Trump’s is called a felony forgery.
Would you say Trump told a Big Lie?
Interesting analogy. People who believe the moon landing is fake are screaming about it? They don't. In contrast, you all go out of your way to scream "lie lie lie!"
17 Aug 2023 10:25 am
It was a good shoot.FJB » 17 Aug 2023, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑ that **** pig cop that shot an unarmed woman needs to go to jail
.And the 40 s&w 180gr.jhp out of that G22 worked flawlessly.
Some people call it .40 slow and weak.
Ashli Babbit was absolutely speechless after her introduction to the caliber.
17 Aug 2023 10:29 am
Squatchman » 17 Aug 2023, 10:25 am » wrote: ↑ It was a good shoot.
.And the 40 s&w 180gr.jhp out of that G22 worked flawlessly.
Some people call it .40 slow and weak.
Ashli Babbit was absolutely speechless after her introduction to the caliber.
as will byrd someday
17 Aug 2023 10:30 am
Bruce » 17 Aug 2023, 10:05 am » wrote: ↑ WASHINGTON (AP) — The first time Celeste Norris laid eyes on Ashli Babbitt, the future insurrectionist had just rammed her vehicle three times with an SUV and was pounding on the window, challenging her to a fight.Norris says the bad blood between them began in 2015, when Babbitt engaged in a monthslong extramarital affair with Norris' longtime live-in boyfriend. When she learned of the relationship, Norris called Babbitt's husband and told him she was cheating.
"She pulls up yelling and screaming," Norris said in an exclusive interview with The Associated Press, recounting the July 29, 2016, road-rage incident in Prince Frederick, Maryland. "It took me a good 30 seconds to figure out who she was. … Just all sorts of expletives, telling me to get out of the car, that she was going to beat my ***." Babbitt was later charged with numerous misdemeanors.
The attack on Norris is an example of erratic and sometimes threatening behavior by Babbitt, who was shot by a police officer while at the vanguard of the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol. Former President Donald Trump and his supporters have sought to portray her as a righteous martyr who was unjustly killed. The officer who shot her was cleared of any wrongdoing by two federal investigations.
But the life of the Air Force veteran from California who died while wearing a Trump campaign flag wrapped around her shoulders like a cape, was far more complicated than the heroic portrait presented by Trump and his allies.
In the months before her death, Babbitt had become consumed by pro-Trump conspiracy theories and posted angry screeds on social media. She also had a history of making violent threats.
Babbitt, 35, was fatally shot while attempting to climb through the broken window of a barricaded door leading to the Speaker's Lobby inside the Capitol, where police officers were evacuating members of Congress from the mob supporting Trump's false claim that the 2020 presidential election was stolen.
another lying **** **** bitch Norris is
17 Aug 2023 10:41 am
Dream the big dream scooter!
17 Aug 2023 10:41 am
he is already in hell
17 Aug 2023 10:42 am
To the truly delusional and koolaid soaked folks like you, I can well imagine it might.Vegas » 17 Aug 2023, 10:16 am » wrote: ↑ Jan 6th is looking more and more like a set up from you morons.
Me? I saw what I saw. I saw barricades being broken down and windows being smashed and LEO's being beaten with pikes. I watched a lynch mob try to stop the peaceful transfer of power, and if Mike Pence had acquiesced, they very well may have succeeded in toppling our glorious experiment in self-governance.
17 Aug 2023 10:44 am
maineman » 17 Aug 2023, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑ To the truly delusional and koolaid soaked folks like you, I can well imagine it might.
Me? I saw what I saw. I saw barricades being broken down and windows being smashed and LEO's being beaten with pikes. I watched a lynch mob try to stop the peaceful transfer of power, and if Mike Pence had acquiesced, they very well may have succeeded in toppling our glorious experiment in self-governance.
MM and his daughter are soros supporters
17 Aug 2023 10:45 am
maineman » 17 Aug 2023, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑ To the truly delusional and koolaid soaked folks like you, I can well imagine it might.
Me? I saw what I saw. I saw barricades being broken down and windows being smashed and LEO's being beaten with pikes. I watched a lynch mob try to stop the peaceful transfer of power, and if Mike Pence had acquiesced, they very well may have succeeded in toppling our glorious experiment in self-governance.
Yeah, so do I and everybody else. We also saw security guards and police politely escorting some of them in, joking and laughing with each other. They even escorted them into offices. Yeah, but you don't want to talk about that.
17 Aug 2023 11:04 am
The fact that some members of the crowd were relatively peaceful does not change the fact that violence happened, especially in the time surrounding the initial breach. Once the vanguard had broken through and was filling the halls of the capitol building, and once it became clear that LEO's were totally outnumbered, continuing to attempt to restrict entry by the large crowd was futile. The fact that some people strolled on in at the tail end just to sightsee does not minimize the violence and carnage that preceded them. The fact that they did so after members of Congress had been shuttled away from danger and the building was empty does not mean that there were moments earlier in that terrible day when angry crowds were using fire extinguishers to smash down the doors to the House chamber where congressmen and women cowered in fear. The fact that some folks at the end were able to peacefully interact with LEO's on the scene did not change the fact that earlier in the day, "Hang Mike Pence!" was being screamed in unison by a very angry and purposeful mob of insurrectionists.Vegas » 17 Aug 2023, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑ Yeah, so do I and everybody else. We also saw security guards and police politely escorting some of them in, joking and laughing with each other. They even escorted them into offices. Yeah, but you don't want to talk about that.
Your argument is similar to saying that, on November 22nd, 1963, because Dealy Plaza in Dallas was filled with a crowd that was overwhelmingly happy and peaceful people, therefore NOTHING violent could have happened there that day.
17 Aug 2023 11:08 am
maineman » 17 Aug 2023, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑ The fact that some members of the crowd were relatively peaceful does not change the fact that violence happened, especially in the time surrounding the initial breach. Once the vanguard had broken through and was filling the halls of the capitol building, and once it became clear that LEO's were totally outnumbered, continuing to attempt to restrict entry by the large crowd was futile. The fact that some people strolled on in at the tail end just to sightsee does not minimize the violence and carnage that preceded them. The fact that they did so after members of Congress had been shuttled away from danger and the building was empty does not mean that there were moments earlier in that terrible day when angry crowds were using fire extinguishers to smash down the doors to the House chamber where congressmen and women cowered in fear. The fact that some folks at the end were able to peacefully interact with LEO's on the scene did not change the fact that earlier in the day, "Hang Mike Pence!" was being screamed in unison by a very angry and purposeful mob of insurrectionists.
Your argument is similar to saying that, on November 22nd, 1963, because Dealy Plaza in Dallas was filled with a crowd that was overwhelmingly happy and peaceful people, therefore NOTHING violent could have happened there that day.
keep spreading those **** lies you chink **** POS spy
17 Aug 2023 11:12 am
Seriously, @Vegas ... toward the end of the January 6th event, what reason did any of the crowd have to continue their violence? That had succeeded in postponing the official proceeding, they had driven all the senators and congressmen and the Vice President out of the building.
It was like the rear echelon of Santa Ana's army wandering around an empty Alamo. Why NOT walk around and take selfies... why not grab a lock of Davy Crockett's hair? Why not try and walk off with Pelosi's podium??
It was like the rear echelon of Santa Ana's army wandering around an empty Alamo. Why NOT walk around and take selfies... why not grab a lock of Davy Crockett's hair? Why not try and walk off with Pelosi's podium??
17 Aug 2023 11:13 am
maineman » 17 Aug 2023, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑ Seriously, @Vegas ... toward the end of the January 6th event, what reason did any of the crowd have to continue their violence? That had succeeded in postponing the official proceeding, they had driven all the senators and congressmen and the Vice President out of the building.
It was like the rear echelon of Santa Ana's army wandering around an empty Alamo. Why NOT walk around and take selfies... why not grab a lock of Davy Crockett's hair? Why not try and walk off with Pelosi's podium??
all fbi actors
17 Aug 2023 11:14 am
maineman » 17 Aug 2023, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑ The fact that some members of the crowd were relatively peaceful does not change the fact that violence happened, especially in the time surrounding the initial breach. Once the vanguard had broken through and was filling the halls of the capitol building, and once it became clear that LEO's were totally outnumbered, continuing to attempt to restrict entry by the large crowd was futile. The fact that some people strolled on in at the tail end just to sightsee does not minimize the violence and carnage that preceded them. The fact that they did so after members of Congress had been shuttled away from danger and the building was empty does not mean that there were moments earlier in that terrible day when angry crowds were using fire extinguishers to smash down the doors to the House chamber where congressmen and women cowered in fear. The fact that some folks at the end were able to peacefully interact with LEO's on the scene did not change the fact that earlier in the day, "Hang Mike Pence!" was being screamed in unison by a very angry and purposeful mob of insurrectionists.
Your argument is similar to saying that, on November 22nd, 1963, because Dealy Plaza in Dallas was filled with a crowd that was overwhelmingly happy and peaceful people, therefore NOTHING violent could have happened there that day.
Being peaceful has nothing to do with it. They were being escorted in by the authorities, meaning it was preplanned and setup. They were being directed and shown where to go.
17 Aug 2023 11:16 am
maineman » 17 Aug 2023, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑ Seriously, @Vegas ... toward the end of the January 6th event, what reason did any of the crowd have to continue their violence? That had succeeded in postponing the official proceeding, they had driven all the senators and congressmen and the Vice President out of the building.
It was like the rear echelon of Santa Ana's army wandering around an empty Alamo. Why NOT walk around and take selfies... why not grab a lock of Davy Crockett's hair? Why not try and walk off with Pelosi's podium??
It's violence. It's what happens. Violence just doesn't stop at will.
17 Aug 2023 11:19 am
They were being escorted by LEO's in the aftermath. After the perimeter is breached, there is no reason to be confrontational. The proceedings were on hold and the congressmen/senators/Pence had all been removed from danger. Walking around with peaceful sightseers in the aftermath of the violent break-in was not "pre-planned" and it was not "set up".Vegas » 17 Aug 2023, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑ Being peaceful has nothing to do with it. They were being escorted in by the authorities, meaning it was preplanned and setup. They were being directed and shown where to go.
17 Aug 2023 11:21 am
Doesn't pay, doesn't choose gas grade.
What a fraud - just like 90% of DC ***.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1689449079418327040
What a fraud - just like 90% of DC ***.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1689449079418327040
17 Aug 2023 11:22 am
January 6th was violent. The waning moments of it were not. The less-than-violent aftermath was not pre-planned nor was it set up.Vegas » 17 Aug 2023, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑ It's violence. It's what happens. Violence just doesn't stop at will.
17 Aug 2023 11:22 am
maineman » 17 Aug 2023, 11:19 am » wrote: ↑ They were being escorted by LEO's in the aftermath. After the perimeter is breached, there is no reason to be confrontational. The proceedings were on hold and the congressmen/senators/Pence had all been removed from danger. Walking around with peaceful sightseers in the aftermath of the violent break-in was not "pre-planned" and it was not "set up".
In the heat of it all, with the adrenaline running, and no one person in charge, why would you expect them to turn it off?
17 Aug 2023 11:28 am
I don't think that the entire crowd of folks that gathered at the ellipse to listen to the speeches by Trump and others were ALL intent on insurrection. I think that a good number of them took their time and meandered down to Capitol Hill and probably stood at a distance as the wave of serious insurrectionists broke the perimeter. Clearly, people were sightseeing toward the rear of the pack and, by that time, there was nothing left for the LEO's to prevent.Vegas » 17 Aug 2023, 11:22 am » wrote: ↑ In the heat of it all, with the adrenaline running, and no one person in charge, why would you expect them to turn it off?
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