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Jack Smith could be Indicted
Jack Smith could be Indicted
By roadkill
18 Aug 2023 6:08 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
18 Aug 2023 5:22 pm
anything to take the blame from trump
18 Aug 2023 5:24 pm
sure he said so he could out of being responsible for all the violence he knew they would do.
18 Aug 2023 5:25 pm
jerrab » 18 Aug 2023, 5:24 pm » wrote: ↑ surenhensaid so he could out of being responsible forma ll the violence he knew they would do,
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
18 Aug 2023 5:26 pm
too much truth for you
18 Aug 2023 5:44 pm
Not enough truth out of you.
18 Aug 2023 6:45 pm
I try to be in the middle of an argument and see both sides.
But that is a 45 page document charging crimes.
The defendant should bring up any defenses, at trial.
Trump’s speech was not recited in full.
But enough was cited to convince me, that Trump was either a desperate liar, or had completely deluded himself seven states wanted to change their votes when none did, or could possibly alter the finished vote count.
If a sane person reads the document in full, either Trump is guilty or not guilty by reason of insanity.
No matter what words he said about peaceful protests, he was trying to obstruct a lawful proceeding.
The crowd delayed the count by several hours, when only a minute was a crime.
18 Aug 2023 6:46 pm
they were not afraid of being arrested and they thought trump would pardon them but he sure fooled them.
18 Aug 2023 6:51 pm
Trump didn’t tell the national guard to stand down. Who was that…?jerrab » 18 Aug 2023, 9:47 am » wrote: ↑ no your thread is laughable. trump is being charged for inaction, not doing his duty not stopping the insurrection and for inciting the rioters even more by tweeting that pence will not overturn the election during the insurrection which enraged the insurrectionists even more.
18 Aug 2023 6:52 pm
Bruce » 18 Aug 2023, 6:45 pm » wrote: ↑ I try to be in the middle of an argument and see both sides.
But that is a 45 page document charging crimes.
The defendant should bring up any defenses, at trial.
Trump’s speech was not recited in full.
But enough was cited to convince me, that Trump was either a desperate liar, or had completely deluded himself seven states wanted to change their votes when none did, or could possibly alter the finished vote count.
If a sane person reads the document in full, either Trump is guilty or not guilty by reason of insanity.
No matter what words he said about peaceful protests, he was trying to obstruct a lawful proceeding.
The crowd delayed the count by several hours, when only a minute was a crime.
You keep trying to resuscitate Biden with oral sex.......nothing you can say would make him look better than Trump.
What did you do for a living?
18 Aug 2023 7:01 pm
You read about this in history, but this was the same sort of mob that stormed the Bastille, or overthrew Kaiser Bill or Czar Nicholas.jerrab » 18 Aug 2023, 6:46 pm » wrote: ↑ they were not afraid of being arrested and they thought trump would pardon them but he sure fooled them.
Trump had convinced them seven states were waiting to reverse their votes.
In a perfect world the Secret Service would have shot him dead, to end it. Failing that Pence should have invoked the 25th and Barr had him arrested and held without bail, that day.
This was an attempted coup, plain and simple.
18 Aug 2023 7:18 pm
You do realize that Smith is cherry picking segments of Trump's speech that make Trump look the worst right, and omitting any parts that exonerate him right?Bruce » 18 Aug 2023, 6:45 pm » wrote: ↑ I try to be in the middle of an argument and see both sides.
But that is a 45 page document charging crimes.
The defendant should bring up any defenses, at trial.
Trump’s speech was not recited in full.
But enough was cited to convince me, that Trump was either a desperate liar, or had completely deluded himself seven states wanted to change their votes when none did, or could possibly alter the finished vote count.
If a sane person reads the document in full, either Trump is guilty or not guilty by reason of insanity.
No matter what words he said about peaceful protests, he was trying to obstruct a lawful proceeding.
The crowd delayed the count by several hours, when only a minute was a crime.
Your statements can only lead to two conclusions...
1) You are completely aware of what Smith is doing and approve of the deceitful practice because it supports your political ideology.
or...
2) You're too stupid to see what he's doing and you are just blindly nodding along because bad orange man is bad.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
18 Aug 2023 7:53 pm
I’ve read the entire 45 pages in full, in context.RedheadedStranger » 18 Aug 2023, 7:18 pm » wrote: ↑ You do realize that Smith is cherry picking segments of Trump's speech that make Trump look the worst right, and omitting any parts that exonerate him right?
Your statements can only lead to two conclusions...
1) You are completely aware of what Smith is doing and approve of the deceitful practice because it supports your political ideology.
or...
2) You're too stupid to see what he's doing and you are just blindly nodding along because bad orange man is bad.
Trump is not being charged with filing at least 65 frivolous lawsuits, none which had even a tiny bit of truth or merit, and for which every lawyer that filed one should be disbarred.
He’s not being charged with demanding endless recounts. Georgia gave him three.
He’s not even being charged with harboring delusions, or maybe he was just lying, there was massive election fraud and he’d won every one of seven states he’d lost by 100,000 votes.
And he is not charged with lying to the people, either.
In fact, without doubt, Trump conspired to substitute seven slates of electors from seven states who had already closed their votes, and have Mike Pence gavel him in as the duly elected President.
In every other nation on earth the military would shoot him that day, to prevent a coup.
Clear your mind and read it all.
A child would agree with me.
18 Aug 2023 8:05 pm
neueregel » 18 Aug 2023, 6:51 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump didn’t tell the national guard to stand down. Who was that…?
trump told the national guard to protect trump supporters, the insurrectionists from the capitol police.
18 Aug 2023 8:08 pm
------------------------------------------------neueregel » 18 Aug 2023, 6:51 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump didn’t tell the national guard to stand down. Who was that…?
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/1 ... ump-524133
Mark Meadows indicated in a Jan. 5 email that the National Guard was on standby to “protect pro Trump people,” according to documents obtained by the House committee investigating the Capitol riot, which the panel described in a public filing Sunday night.The context for the message is unclear, but it comes amid intense scrutiny of the Guard’s slow response to violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6 and conflicting timelines about their efforts from the Pentagon and National Guard leadership
18 Aug 2023 8:14 pm
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------neueregel » 18 Aug 2023, 6:51 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump didn’t tell the national guard to stand down. Who was that…?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... tol-jan-6/
Interestingly, a report by the congressional committee examining Jan. 6 events says that Meadows “sent an email to an individual about the events on January 6 and said that the National Guard would be present to ‘'protect pro Trump people’ and that many more would be available on standby.” The committee, in citing Meadows for contempt for refusing to cooperate, is seeking more information about this issue.
18 Aug 2023 8:18 pm
-------------------------------------------------------------------neueregel » 18 Aug 2023, 6:51 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump didn’t tell the national guard to stand down. Who was that…?
https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-me ... ot-2021-12
Mark Meadows said in an email on January 5, while serving as White House chief of staff, that the National Guard was on standby to "protect pro Trump people," according to the House select committee investigating the Capitol riot.The email was described in a document released by the January 6 committee on Sunday recommending that Meadows be held in contempt of Congress after he stopped cooperating with the committee's investigation. The full House is expected to vote this week on holding Meadows in contempt.Before Meadows stopped cooperating, he shared some documents with the committee. The document released Sunday describes some of the documents and exchanges Meadows provided, including the one about the National Guard."Mr. Meadows sent an email to an individual about the events on January 6 and said that the National Guard would be present to 'protect pro Trump people' and that many more would be available on standby," the document said.
18 Aug 2023 8:23 pm
https://youtu.be/W9R9oysRLK4jerrab » 18 Aug 2023, 8:08 pm » wrote: ↑ ------------------------------------------------
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/1 ... ump-524133
Mark Meadows indicated in a Jan. 5 email that the National Guard was on standby to “protect pro Trump people,” according to documents obtained by the House committee investigating the Capitol riot, which the panel described in a public filing Sunday night.The context for the message is unclear, but it comes amid intense scrutiny of the Guard’s slow response to violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6 and conflicting timelines about their efforts from the Pentagon and National Guard leadership
Watching the first 20 minutes should suffice. No offense to politico but I don’t need to hear their take on events when I can hear it from the man in charge.
18 Aug 2023 8:27 pm
I’ve re read the indictment looking for any possible reason for what is beyond a doubt a coup attempt.
Let’s say in Trump’s mind he really beloved his ravings to the crowd that seven states were wanting to set aside their closed, constitutionally appointed electors.
That makes him a madman. All of those states had closed their books. None would have or could opened them back up.
And the rioters almost got Mike Pence’s backup football.
—-
“The risk associated with the insurrectionists getting their hands on Pence’s football wasn’t that they could have initiated an unauthorized launch. But had they stolen the football and acquired its contents, which include pre-planned nuclear strike options, they could have shared the contents with the world,” Kingston Reif, an expert on nuclear weapons policy at the nonpartisan Arms Control Association, told CNN.
——
The football carriers can deal with suddenly insane Presidents and Vice Presidents but not with mobs.
The Secret Service did prevent Trump from going to the Capitol and kept him confined to the White House.
The protocols need to be revised so that each President and Vice President from now till eternity know, that if they call to a mob for insurrection they die right on the spot.
Or someday this will happen again,
Let’s say in Trump’s mind he really beloved his ravings to the crowd that seven states were wanting to set aside their closed, constitutionally appointed electors.
That makes him a madman. All of those states had closed their books. None would have or could opened them back up.
And the rioters almost got Mike Pence’s backup football.
—-
“The risk associated with the insurrectionists getting their hands on Pence’s football wasn’t that they could have initiated an unauthorized launch. But had they stolen the football and acquired its contents, which include pre-planned nuclear strike options, they could have shared the contents with the world,” Kingston Reif, an expert on nuclear weapons policy at the nonpartisan Arms Control Association, told CNN.
——
The football carriers can deal with suddenly insane Presidents and Vice Presidents but not with mobs.
The Secret Service did prevent Trump from going to the Capitol and kept him confined to the White House.
The protocols need to be revised so that each President and Vice President from now till eternity know, that if they call to a mob for insurrection they die right on the spot.
Or someday this will happen again,
18 Aug 2023 10:03 pm
Keep flip flopping buddy.Bruce » 18 Aug 2023, 7:53 pm » wrote: ↑ I’ve read the entire 45 pages in full, in context.
Trump is not being charged with filing at least 65 frivolous lawsuits, none which had even a tiny bit of truth or merit, and for which every lawyer that filed one should be disbarred.
He’s not being charged with demanding endless recounts. Georgia gave him three.
He’s not even being charged with harboring delusions, or maybe he was just lying, there was massive election fraud and he’d won every one of seven states he’d lost by 100,000 votes.
And he is not charged with lying to the people, either.
In fact, without doubt, Trump conspired to substitute seven slates of electors from seven states who had already closed their votes, and have Mike Pence gavel him in as the duly elected President.
In every other nation on earth the military would shoot him that day, to prevent a coup.
Clear your mind and read it all.
A child would agree with me.
It's obviously your strongest point.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
18 Aug 2023 10:31 pm
https://youtu.be/dNuYYHOvmd4neueregel » 18 Aug 2023, 8:23 pm » wrote: ↑ https://youtu.be/W9R9oysRLK4
Watching the first 20 minutes should suffice. No offense to politico but I don’t need to hear their take on events when I can hear it from the man in charge.
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