… even though prosecutors bear the burden of proving the case beyond a reasonable doubt before there can be a conviction, we can easily understand why the defendants have been charged. If they are charged with conspiracy, the indictment will clearly state the crime they allegedly agreed to commit — e.g., drug trafficking, bank robbery, murder, extortion. Whatever the objective crime may be, we understand that the prosecutors, the police, and the grand jury have established to the court’s satisfaction that there is enough evidence to establish probable cause that the alleged conspirators agreed to commit a crime.
That is what’s so strange about DA Willis’s indictment. She alleges that the 19 people named in her indictment are guilty of conspiracy because they agreed to try to keep Donald Trump in power as president — specifically, to “change the outcome of the election in favor of Trump.” Maybe they shared such an aim, maybe their 19 minds met regarding that objective, but in and of itself, trying to reverse the result of an election is not a crime. You may have noticed that neither Al Gore nor Stacey Abrams was ever led away in handcuffs.
Squirtboy- zero intellectSquatchman » 20 Aug 2023, 6:42 am » wrote: ↑ Coming from a guy that thinks there is such a thing as bomb powder.
Poor Max.
His idiocy follows him every where he goes.
He doesn't know about RICO either.
But if asked he's a climatologist,attorney,gun expert and a constitutional scholar.
When in all reality he's just another low wit trump supporter with 3 teeth and a warts wife.
**** like @Squatchman are soooo easy to spot. She's also talking to some "Max" something that doesn't even reside here.righteous » 20 Aug 2023, 6:56 am » wrote: ↑ Squirtboy- zero intellect
Diarrhea of the mouth and anus
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RICO? In order to have a RICO charge, you need an UNDERLYING CRIME. A "conspiracy" claim REQUIRES a crime to be CONSPIRED TO COMMIT too!!Squatchman » 20 Aug 2023, 6:42 am » wrote: ↑ Coming from a guy that thinks there is such a thing as bomb powder.
Poor Max.
His idiocy follows him every where he goes.
He doesn't know about RICO either.
But if asked he's a climatologist,attorney,gun expert and a constitutional scholar.
When in all reality he's just another low wit trump supporter with 3 teeth and a warts wife.
InterestingBeekeeper » 20 Aug 2023, 6:26 am » wrote: ↑ So, Fani is going to get her FANNY (***) KICKED ON THIS ONE!! And probably will see the CHARGES DISMISSED TOTALLY AGAINST ALL INVOLVED since she states a "Conspiracy" with NO UNDERLINE CRIME THEY WERE CONSPIRING TO COMMIT!!
Trying to change an election result IS NOT A CRIME AT THE STATE OR FEDERAL LEVEL, ****!!!
Andrew McCarthy Former US Prosecturor) writes:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.Beekeeper » 20 Aug 2023, 7:07 am » wrote: ↑ RICO? In order to have a RICO charge, you need an UNDERLYING CRIME. A "conspiracy" claim REQUIRES a crime to be CONSPIRED TO COMMIT too!!
So tell us, ****, what is the UNDERLYING CRIME that has been committed?? AND if you make a claim, you need to ALSO PROVIDE THE STATUTE that makes your claim a CRIME!!
GO, **** GAYBOI!!
Nothing but pure unadulterated BS coming from the fake Republican Right Wing Conspiracy Fascist brainSquatchman » 20 Aug 2023, 6:42 am » wrote: ↑ Coming from a guy that thinks there is such a thing as bomb powder.
Poor Max.
His idiocy follows him every where he goes.
He doesn't know about RICO either.
But if asked he's a climatologist,attorney,gun expert and a constitutional scholar.
When in all reality he's just another low wit trump supporter with 3 teeth and a warts wife.
So, in other words you are just another factually unarmed leftist ****......huh?
Your DEFEAT AND ADMISSION OF HAVING NO CRIME YOU CAN CITE is ACCEPTED!!
Yeah, you **** POS always have that to say since the the FACTS kick you in the imaginary NUTS you claim you have!!
Neither You or Squatchboi has it right .....razoo » 20 Aug 2023, 9:01 am » wrote: ↑ Nothing but pure unadulterated BS coming from the fake Republican Right Wing Conspiracy Fascist brain
dead movement ................... all living in a paranoid shizoid bubble. Just think all of these anti americans on this
board could give up their USA citizenships and move to Russia, China, North Korea or Saudi Arabaia. Move
you ALEC fascist America hating clones......
Squatchman has it right ......
So precious:Squatchman » 20 Aug 2023, 6:42 am » wrote: ↑ Coming from a guy that thinks there is such a thing as bomb powder.
Poor Max.
His idiocy follows him every where he goes.
He doesn't know about RICO either.
But if asked he's a climatologist,attorney,gun expert and a constitutional scholar.
When in all reality he's just another low wit trump supporter with 3 teeth and a warts wife.
It's ALL BULL **** !! They are trying to indict Donald Trump for encouraging his supporters to "Find HIM a few more votes"... in a State where it was ADMITTED that VARIOUS if types of Voter Fraud HAD been committed...Squatchman » 20 Aug 2023, 6:42 am » wrote: ↑ Coming from a guy that thinks there is such a thing as bomb powder.
Poor Max.
His idiocy follows him every where he goes.
He doesn't know about RICO either.
But if asked he's a climatologist,attorney,gun expert and a constitutional scholar.
When in all reality he's just another low wit trump supporter with 3 teeth and a warts wife.
Whoa a minute. We aren’t talking about voter fraud.ConservativeWave » 20 Aug 2023, 12:41 pm » wrote: ↑ It's ALL BULL **** !! They are trying to indict Donald Trump for encouraging his supporters to "Find HIM a few more votes"... in a State there it was ADMITTED that VARIOUS if types of Voter Fraud HAD been committed...
1) Ballots that had NO signature verification,
2) OTHER Ballots that COULD NOT be verified as REAL (ballot box stuffing),
3) Voting by NON Citizens,
4) DUPLICATE Votes,
5) Ballot HARVESTING DAYS after the election... and the list goes on !
ANY of those could be cause for REASONABLE Doubt that "trump KNEW he had lost" !
THEN... If THIS was illegal.. then WHY wasn't Hillary Clintons efforts to RE COUNT the entire 2016 election JUST as ILLEGAL ?
https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton- ... 24551.html
It's ALL POLITICAL BULL ****, and UN EQUAL Justice... under a CORRUPT Federal Government bureaucracy and Deep State !!!
Pence was asked not to certify until a formal federal investigation occured ......Bruce » 20 Aug 2023, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑ Whoa a minute. We aren’t talking about voter fraud.
The OP is:
ATTEMPTING TO CHANGE ELECTION RESULTS IS NOT A CRIME
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So, is conspiracy to change the results of an election legal?
If so, I wonder if Joe Biden can conspire to play a Kamala Harris card on January 6, 2025?
I’m afraid if Joe asked me to help I’d not participate and I’d record me saying
NOT NO, **** NO!.
No he was not. Pence was supposed to substitute Trump’s “alternate electors” for 7 states of genuine electors and declare Trump re-elected.Majik » 20 Aug 2023, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑ Pence was asked not to certify until a formal federal investigation occured ......
where is the conspiracy in that ? Huh?
Quit lying and using the Jan.6th commitee script of falsehoods.....they have no currency here....Bruce » 20 Aug 2023, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑ No he was not. Pence was supposed to substitute Trump’s “alternate electors” for 7 states of genuine electors and declare Trump re-elected.
That describes the “Pence Card”.
If Trump can do that then Joe Biden can do that, too.
The one, and the only reason any Republican doesn’t want Trump punished for trying to play the Pence Card is ignorance.
They would ****, fall over backwards and die, before they’d defend Biden trying to play a Harris Card.