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MackTheFinger » 09 Sep 2023, 10:10 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2023, 10:10 pm

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It proves their phone was there.

And their phone called a cab and arrived at congress all by itself.  Those phones weren't in people's pockets.  The phones were roaming around all by themselves.  

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jerrab » 25 Aug 2023, 11:08 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2023, 11:08 pm

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https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL2N2XJ0OQ

GEOTRACKINGMultiple concerns were raised by experts speaking to Reuters about the “geotracking” portion of the documentary. It was unclear whether the same test was applied anywhere other than the swing states in question (to prove a unique phenomenon had happened), along with data validity, accuracy, and discussion about other possibilities that could explain the findings.“The entirety of the claim rests on cell phone location data, which doesn’t remotely show that people were actually using the drop boxes (it doesn’t have the granularity to show that, as opposed to just walking or even driving by),” said Kenneth R Mayer, Professor of Political Science at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, who spoke to Reuters via email.

Your other's vadge has granularity, fruitcake. 

If you pay people to keep you stupid, they'll happily do so. 

All vermin want is plausible deniability. But it's only plausible to vermin, vermin. 
 

maineman » 26 Aug 2023, 7:23 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2023, 7:23 am

Watch 2000 Mules? For free? I could also spend an hour and a half watching infomercials about Ginsu knives, but both would be equally worthless ways to spend my time regardless of the admission price.

We all know you're gonna be looking at your child porn collection, groomer. 
 

Majik » 26 Aug 2023, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2023, 10:24 am

They mean Partisan detractors. ......
Kenneth R Mayer is a political scientist and more importantly a rabid Democrat ......
and has no expertise in Geo-tracking.....
in other words .....
Reuters is trying to invalidate 2000 mules and fool the readers with the use of a supposed expert that is not an expert ....
and sheep like you keep falling for it .....

They WANT to fall for it. 
 

Let's recap.
Still no evidence of election fraud.
2,000 mules is a fictional B movie.
Trump is still a fat bitch.
And golfboy eats dick hair.

 

OdeToJoy » 09 Sep 2023, 12:18 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2023, 12:18 pm

They claim that they tracked cellphone pings near the boxes, and showed that this was proof that there were all these people dropping off fraudulent votes.

Our local Dropbox was situated about 10 feet in front of the front door of our City Hall/Courthouse.  Every employee, vendor, people coming in for a birth certificate, anybody who had a court date, local politicians, police and sheriffs arriving for court, lawyers, judges, or anybody that had legal business would have cellphone pings.  I saw kids skateboarding past the entrance.

The other Dropboxes were also situated in front of other city/county offices, like the police and sheriff's departments.  

Most of the towns in the same area placed the Drop boxes in front of local or county offices. 

And I am in one of swing states that Trump claims he won.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/06/evide ... 000-mules/

​​​​​​The film, which the makers say has been viewed by millions, comes at the issue of voter fraud from a unique angle. The conservative group True the Vote paid $2 million for geotracking data of cell phones used in targeted areas of five swing states in the weeks leading up to the presidential election. The group says it identified some 2,000 cell phone users who were geolocated in the immediate vicinity of 10 or more ballot drop boxes and five or more liberal nonprofits.

 The film argues there can be no other reasonable explanation for that other than that the cell phone users were acting as “mules” in a massive, nationwide scheme in which they were paid to illegally “traffic” fraudulent ballots. And the producer of the film, conservative activist Dinesh D’Souza, says if the group’s calculations are correct, it was done in large enough numbers to have swung the election in Biden’s favor.

 Some experts in geotracking data analysis told us the technology is only precise enough to place a cell phone user in the vicinity of a drop box, not necessarily at it, and there may be many good reasons why people might have been “pinged” in the area of multiple drop boxes.

Yet, there were THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF VIDEO that showed people DUMPING HUNDREDS OF BALLOTS AT A TIME at the same identical time these cell tower pings were occurring. Coincidence?? WE THINK NOT!! Which is where your **** DIATRIBE falls apart.

Beekeeper » 10 Sep 2023, 5:46 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 5:46 am

Yet, there were THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF VIDEO that showed people DUMPING HUNDREDS OF BALLOTS AT A TIME at the same identical time these cell tower pings were occurring. Coincidence?? WE THINK NOT!! Which is where your **** DIATRIBE falls apart.

  When trump loses again are you going to squeal about election fraud again?
I hope so.
It's quite entertaining watching you mid wits trying to prove it over and over.
Space lasers.
Bamboo paper.
The Kraken.
2,000 mules.
The pillow guy.
Gateway Pundit, Fox and all the other "news" outlets.
  I find it entertaining the depths of lunacy you simpletons fall into to prove something that never happened.
 

Squatchman » 10 Sep 2023, 7:43 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 7:43 am

  When trump loses again are you going to squeal about election fraud again?
I hope so.
It's quite entertaining watching you mid wits trying to prove it over and over.
Space lasers.
Bamboo paper.
The Kraken.
2,000 mules.
The pillow guy.
Gateway Pundit, Fox and all the other "news" outlets.
  I find it entertaining the depths of lunacy you simpletons fall into to prove something that never happened.

SQUATCH STILLS WANTS TO SUCK TRUMP DICK

Squatchman » 10 Sep 2023, 7:43 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 7:43 am

  When trump loses again are you going to squeal about election fraud again?
I hope so.
It's quite entertaining watching you mid wits trying to prove it over and over.
Space lasers.
Bamboo paper.
The Kraken.
2,000 mules.
The pillow guy.
Gateway Pundit, Fox and all the other "news" outlets.
  I find it entertaining the depths of lunacy you simpletons fall into to prove something that never happened.

After BIDEN LOSES in 2024, are YOU GOING TO DO YOUR USUAL DUMBASSERY **** POSTS about how the REPUBLICAN WINNER is an "illegitimate President"??

Try harder ****, you are playing mental gymnastics with your DEFECTIVE 2 brain cells and you're LOSING BADLY and too **** MORONIC to understand that simple FACT!!

Run along boy, before you get that HEAD BASHED IN, AGAIN, and you have to go whining to mommy about how bad you got that *** KICKED- - - - AGAIN!!

 

Beekeeper » 10 Sep 2023, 5:46 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 5:46 am

Yet, there were THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF VIDEO that showed people DUMPING HUNDREDS OF BALLOTS AT A TIME at the same identical time these cell tower pings were occurring. Coincidence?? WE THINK NOT!! Which is where your **** DIATRIBE falls apart.

All of that was thoroughly investigated and debunked.  All of that "evidence" was shown to judges (some of them appointed by Trump), and it was laughed out of court.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL2N2XJ0OQ

The documentary shows several surveillance clips said to reveal “mules” stuffing fake ballots in the drop boxes.

In one clip, a couple of ballots appear to drop to the floor as one man goes to post; the documentary makers suggest this is suspicious, as well as the man allegedly posting the ballots late at night.

In another, a woman wearing a face mask and gloves is seen posting a ballot before turning to place her gloves in a nearby bin. It is claimed in the documentary that she is a “mule” because she was wearing gloves (to hide her fingerprints) and did not look at the bin, so must have had prior knowledge of it being there. The documentary makers did not appear to consider the possibility that the woman was wearing gloves, along with her face mask, as a personal protective measure against COVID-19.The unidentified woman was also said to have visited “dozens and dozens” of drop boxes; however, no other clips of her, nor any further evidence, were shown.

Two other clips show men in separate locations taking photos of themselves posting their ballot, which the documentary makers allege was to provide evidence of the job done so the “mules” can get paid.

In a Fox News interview, Engelbrecht claimed the average number of visits by a "mule" to a drop box was 38. Yet none of the surveillance videos showed the same person more than once.

 BALLOT HARVESTING VS FRAUDULENT BALLOTS

Some of the people in Georgia who were presented in surveillance footage as so-called “mules” were seen posting more than one ballot at once, which the documentary makers suggested was proof of voter fraud.

But this doesn’t necessarily constitute fraud. Ballot harvesting, the posting of completed ballots on behalf of a third party, is legal in several states, including Georgia.

“Some of the so-called “mules” might have been legitimate family members putting in ballots in Georgia,” said Theodore Allen, Associate Professor at Ohio State University, specializing in the administering of elections.

“Many people need encouragement to vote and offering to collect and bring to ballot boxes is, in many states, a legal and legitimate way to increase voter participation which is often low.

”Reuters also spoke to M.V. (Trey) Hood III, Professor in the Department of Political Science at the University of Georgia, to understand the legality around dropping off multiple ballots. He said that issues of ballot harvesting and fraud have been conflated, and there are protections in place in Georgia to prevent the posting of fraudulent ballots.
 
 
 

Beekeeper » 10 Sep 2023, 5:46 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 5:46 am

Yet, there were THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF VIDEO that showed people DUMPING HUNDREDS OF BALLOTS AT A TIME at the same identical time these cell tower pings were occurring. Coincidence?? WE THINK NOT!! Which is where your **** DIATRIBE falls apart.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL2N2XJ0OQ

Reuters looked into a video posted in May claiming to show one such “mule”. Pennsylvania county authorities debunked the “evidence” by confirming it showed a designated agent dropping ballots off on behalf of individuals who are unable to (here).

 Ultimately, ‘2000 Mules’ speculates that the so-called ballot-traffickers were dropping off fraudulent ballots – but the film does not prove this. The ‘faked’ ballots were never opened and inspected, nor were the suspected “mules” on surveillance questioned, aside from one anonymous “informant” who says she never saw inside the supposed fraudulent ballots.
 

Cannonpointer » 10 Sep 2023, 12:23 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 12:23 am

We all know you're gonna be looking at your child porn collection, groomer.

You really have become a predictable one-trick-pony.  Projection is really your only schtick anymore. I must tell you it is concomitantly boring and revealing.

Beekeeper » 10 Sep 2023, 5:46 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 5:46 am

Yet, there were THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF VIDEO that showed people DUMPING HUNDREDS OF BALLOTS AT A TIME at the same identical time these cell tower pings were occurring. Coincidence?? WE THINK NOT!! Which is where your **** DIATRIBE falls apart.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL2N2XB15A

The letter explains that, after review, the person in the video was revealed to have placed ballots with a completed designated agent form in line with Pennsylvania law. “Each form properly identified the individual voter and designated the individual in the video as the person permitted to act as an agent on the voter’s behalf,” the letter said. “The County maintains each of these Designated Agent forms in its possession.”

 More information about the designated agent form for Pennsylvania can be seen (here). The forms allow someone with a disability to designate a person to obtain and return mail-in or absentee ballots on their behalf. "This individual did nothing wrong,” the letter said. “In fact, the video shows this voter taking the proper steps to enfranchise residents of a local rehabilitation and long-term care facility so that their votes were legally cast.”
 

Squatchman » 10 Sep 2023, 2:36 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 2:36 am

Let's recap.
Still no evidence of election fraud.
2,000 mules is a fictional B movie.
Trump is still a fat bitch.
And golfboy eats dick hair.

yahtzee!  

OdeToJoy » 10 Sep 2023, 8:02 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 8:02 am

https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL2N2XB15A

The letter explains that, after review, the person in the video was revealed to have placed ballots with a completed designated agent form in line with Pennsylvania law. “Each form properly identified the individual voter and designated the individual in the video as the person permitted to act as an agent on the voter’s behalf,” the letter said. “The County maintains each of these Designated Agent forms in its possession.”

 More information about the designated agent form for Pennsylvania can be seen (here). The forms allow someone with a disability to designate a person to obtain and return mail-in or absentee ballots on their behalf. "This individual did nothing wrong,” the letter said. “In fact, the video shows this voter taking the proper steps to enfranchise residents of a local rehabilitation and long-term care facility so that their votes were legally cast.”

Don't expect honeypot to accept reality.  The koolaid concentration is just too strong in that one. 

OdeToJoy » 10 Sep 2023, 8:02 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 8:02 am

https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL2N2XB15A

The letter explains that, after review, the person in the video was revealed to have placed ballots with a completed designated agent form in line with Pennsylvania law. “Each form properly identified the individual voter and designated the individual in the video as the person permitted to act as an agent on the voter’s behalf,” the letter said. “The County maintains each of these Designated Agent forms in its possession.”

 More information about the designated agent form for Pennsylvania can be seen (here). The forms allow someone with a disability to designate a person to obtain and return mail-in or absentee ballots on their behalf. "This individual did nothing wrong,” the letter said. “In fact, the video shows this voter taking the proper steps to enfranchise residents of a local rehabilitation and long-term care facility so that their votes were legally cast.”

Laughing my *** off. A "Reuters Fact Check" that STATES PLAINLY that they could NOT VERIFY THE VIDEO???

While Reuters could not independently verify the video ....

You are so **** GULLIBLE and a PROVEN IDIOT for even thinking about posting this ****!!!

So where is the EVIDENCE that this PERSON, who can't be identified PRECISELY due to a MASK, is the APPOINTED AGENT of the person she hauled ballots for??? Oh, that's right, Reuters couldn't VERIFY THAT PART EITHER, ****!!

So what you have is some more of the same LWNJ **** you **** IDIOTS take for face value when it's all invented so you will be COMPLIANT AND OBEDIENT TO YOUR MASTERS!!
 

maineman » 10 Sep 2023, 8:05 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 8:05 am

yahtzee!

  They are an entertaining bunch of butthurt,delusional bitches.
What with all of their excuses why trump lost except for the real reason. America hates him.
They're talk of a civil war that they would lose in less than a day.
How the seditionists are just peaceful protesters.
That trump can singlehandedly save the "American culture."
Abortion is murder except for when one of their daughters gets pregnant from them or a black man.
Guns and God will save them.

   There are some real **** up people in the Republican party. 
 

Beekeeper » 10 Sep 2023, 8:10 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 8:10 am

Laughing my *** off. A "Reuters Fact Check" that STATES PLAINLY that they could NOT VERIFY THE VIDEO???

You are so **** GULLIBLE and a PROVEN IDIOT for even thinking about posting this ****!!!

So where is the EVIDENCE that this PERSON, who can't be identified PRECISELY due to a MASK, is the APPOINTED AGENT of the person she hauled ballots for??? Oh, that's right, Reuters couldn't VERIFY THAT PART EITHER, ****!!

So what you have is some more of the same LWNJ **** you **** IDIOTS take for face value when it's all invented so you will be COMPLIANT AND OBEDIENT TO YOUR MASTERS!!

And yet you can't post ONE TIME that this hasn't been laughed out of court by Trump appointed conservative judges.


In a Fox News interview, Engelbrecht claimed the average number of visits by a "mule" to a drop box was 38. Yet none of the surveillance videos showed the same person more than once.

Squatchman » 10 Sep 2023, 8:17 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 8:17 am

  They are an entertaining bunch of butthurt,delusional bitches.
What with all of their excuses why trump lost except for the real reason. America hates him.
They're talk of a civil war that they would lose in less than a day.
How the seditionists are just peaceful protesters.
That trump can singlehandedly save the "American culture."
Abortion is murder except for when one of their daughters gets pregnant from them or a black man.
Guns and God will save them.

   There are some real **** up people in the Republican party.

I read an article the other day that chronicled the shift in political allegiances and self-identifications.    It basically came down to the fact that uneducated white people used to be Democrats, and rich, affluent, well-educated folks used to be Republicans, and now, that has basically shifted.  The article went on to say that the attitudes on both sides about the opposition have become more strident and negative.   It bodes ill for ever being able to recapture the sense of shared commitment and compromise that characterized American politics for the fact majority of our history.  

I can look at a whole string of events and remember how each one tended to push us further into our corners:  The Vietnam War, Watergate, Newt's Contract on America, the Clinton impeachment, WMD's and the Iraq War, Katrina, Obama and his horrid tan suit, 2016, Hillary, Mueller, impeachments, COVID, 2020 election, January 6th Insurrection, Hunter's laptop, Ukraine.  EDIT:  I forgot to mention Reagan's blatant dog-whistle racism in Philadelphia, MS, his disregard of AIDS which  was infinitely worse that Trump's disregard of COVID, Iran-Contra... it's just been a **** show ever since I was in high school.

I honestly think that much like 1992 was a generational shift election where a Vietnam-era draft dodger beat a WWII Navy Pilot, 2028 will give both parties an opportunity to offer up a new young face as their candidate to lead this next generation well into the 21st century.  Boomers need to sit down and stand back and we all need to dial down the heated rhetoric for the good of our republic.

 
 

OdeToJoy » 10 Sep 2023, 8:29 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2023, 8:29 am

And yet you can't post ONE TIME that this hasn't been laughed out of court by Trump appointed conservative judges.

In a Fox News interview, Engelbrecht claimed the average number of visits by a "mule" to a drop box was 38. Yet none of the surveillance videos showed the same person more than once.

Oh, so it was "Laughed out of court", huh?

So you can POST LINKS to those RULINGS of LAUGHTER AND SILLYNESS, right, PIGSQUAT??

No?? Then move along with your **** and more **** with a ton of **** tossed in for effect.