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Buffalo » 29 Aug 2023, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Aug 2023, 1:06 pm

I would stay the **** out of it!!!

If you want to educate yourself on how US foreign policy is conducted, read John Perkins "Confessions of an Economic Hitman".
 

Foriegn policy is ONE thing... but Russia INVADING Ukraine and NATO doing NOTHING ABOUT IT ( as you would propose) ?  Would a COLOSSAL mistake... Poland, Romania, the Blatic States, Sweden and Finlands DEFINITELY KNOW IT... and WHY?  BECAUSE:

1)  IF they (Russia and China) are going to play the Imperialism card (which they now have)... THEN we are going to have to fight BOTH of them at some point... IT is STILL their goal to CONQUER the world... and you should see it with China's "string of pearls" effort, and their intentions regarding Taiwan !

2)  IF we can fight and DESTROY Russia NOW, by just sending them bunch of 20 year old equipment, and have the Ukrainians actually do the fighting ?  IT is CHEAP... at TWICE the price !  BECAUSE...

3)  IF we dont.... a shooting war with a fully supplied Russia and/or China is MUCH more likely... AND, there are going to be TENS of THOUSANDS of Families with DEAD loved ones who will CURSE YOUR NAMES... because you did NOTHING... when you COULD HAVE, and didn't !!

Imperialism is the cause of this war. WASH DC's imperialism.

NATO in Ukraine training their military.

Helping them build war trenches/bunkers since 2015.

50 miles from Russia.

Now that's imperialism.
 

ConservativeWave » 30 Aug 2023, 4:24 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2023, 4:24 pm

Foriegn policy is ONE thing... but Russia INVADING Ukraine and NATO doing NOTHING ABOUT IT ( as you would propose) ?  Would a COLOSSAL mistake... Poland, Romania, the Blatic States, Sweden and Finlands DEFINITELY KNOW IT... and WHY?  BECAUSE:

1)  IF they (Russia and China) are going to play the Imperialism card (which they now have)... THEN we are going to have to fight BOTH of them at some point... IT is STILL their goal to CONQUER the world... and you should see it with China's "string of pearls" effort, and their intentions regarding Taiwan !

2)  IF we can fight and DESTROY Russia NOW, by just sending them bunch of 20 year old equipment, and have the Ukrainians actually do the fighting ?  IT is CHEAP... at TWICE the price !  BECAUSE...

3)  IF we dont.... a shooting war with a fully supplied Russia and/or China is MUCH more likely... AND, there are going to be TENS of THOUSANDS of Families with DEAD loved ones who will CURSE YOUR NAMES... because you did NOTHING... when you COULD HAVE, and didn't !!

we are going to go to war with Russia and China, Iran, Saudi Arabia and a few others 

or we are going to quit **** around

kinda the whole point

Mrkelly » 30 Aug 2023, 4:56 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2023, 4:56 pm

we are going to go to war with Russia and China, Iran, Saudi Arabia and a few others 

or we are going to quit **** around

kinda the whole point

Apologies for being repetitive...

""All empires go insane when they begin to crumble""

---Chris Hedges
 

Sad, broken Uke soldiers

tell the truth....
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1696926985379889573
 

Sumela » 30 Aug 2023, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2023, 4:42 pm

Imperialism is the cause of this war. WASH DC's imperialism.

NATO in Ukraine training their military.

Helping them build war trenches/bunkers since 2015.

50 miles from Russia.

Now that's imperialism.

A COUPLE things for IDIOTS (like YOU) to think about:

1)  Imperialism is what RUSSIA is doing... Invading neiboring countries !

2)  Fighting for Freedom and NATIONAL Sovereignty... THAT is what Ukraine is doing ! ...and

3)  Being a good neiegbor and HELPING Ukraine FIGHT for their NATIONAL Sovereignty and Freedom... THAT is what America is doing !!

SO, the only ones being IMPERIALIST here... IS RUSSIA !

YOU IDIOT Piece Of **** !!

Mrkelly » 30 Aug 2023, 4:56 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2023, 4:56 pm

we are going to go to war with Russia and China, Iran, Saudi Arabia and a few others 

or we are going to quit **** around

kinda the whole point

1)  We can go to WAR and have OUR kids DIE in a Russian war of Imperialism... OR

2)  We can supply the Ukrainians with some 20-30 year old equipment and weapons... and let THEM FIGHT (and die for their OWN freedom)... which they are DOING, and GRATEFUL for our help !!

SO... WHAT does EVERYONE KNOW Already?:

   A)  Russia KNOWS they are NOT as strong as they THOUGHT they were !

   B)  WE KNOW Russia is NOT as strong as they THOUGHT they were ! and

   C)  The WORLD KNOWS Russia is NOT as strong as they THOUGHT they were !

Seems to ME like... WE are ALREADY "NOT **** around"... AND, WE have not lost ONE AMERICAN life doing it... AND, the question is... why can't IDIOT Americans see that ?

ARE they REALLY Americans... AT ALL?... The WORLD WONDERS !!

Sumela » 30 Aug 2023, 7:58 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2023, 7:58 pm

Apologies for being repetitive...

""All empires go insane when they begin to crumble""

---Chris Hedges

COMPLETE BULL **** !!

Imperialism is - Murica Inc...Its called EMPIRE...The Mafia Empire:

--sanctioning over 40 countries

--illegally in Syria stealing their oil

--destroying Iraq - killing millions - stealing their oil

--destroying Libya - killing 100s of 1000s - stealing their oil

--Regime coups all over the world

--Using ISIS as a proxy army in Syria

--Bombing Serbia and Yugoslavia - "bringing dumbocracy"






 

See, the proof of a *** Neocon Globalist is


they tell the world...


""you cannot do as we have done....you must do as we command you to do"""


""only we can bomb, plunder, destroy, murder cuz we are the empire...."""


"""God made us special...and jizzrael....nobody else is special.  We have impunity to rape and steal"""





 

ConservativeWave » 31 Aug 2023, 12:43 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 12:43 am

1)  We can go to WAR and have OUR kids DIE in a Russian war of Imperialism... OR

2)  We can supply the Ukrainians with some 20-30 year old equipment and weapons... and let THEM FIGHT (and die for their OWN freedom)... which they are DOING, and GRATEFUL for our help !!

SO... WHAT does EVERYONE KNOW Already?:

   A)  Russia KNOWS they are NOT as strong as they THOUGHT they were !

   B)  WE KNOW Russia is NOT as strong as they THOUGHT they were ! and

   C)  The WORLD KNOWS Russia is NOT as strong as they THOUGHT they were !

Seems to ME like... WE are ALREADY "NOT **** around"... AND, WE have not lost ONE AMERICAN life doing it... AND, the question is... why can't IDIOT Americans see that ?

ARE they REALLY Americans... AT ALL?... The WORLD WONDERS !!

UKRAINIANS ARE NOT DYING FOR THEIR FREEDOM. THEY'RE DYING TO LINE THE POCKETS OF ZELENSKY, HIS OLIGARCHS, BIDEN AND THE MIC. AND THERE IS PROOF WITH EVIDENCE 

Fake News....has cucked all the cuckies again...silly ***.
""""Ukes almost to Crimea!!!!"""
--------------------------------------------------------

-- GEROMAN -- time will tell
@GeromanAT
·
2h
Ukrainan forces breeched NOTHING and could not even secure Robotyne
They are now running down a valley secured by RF held high grounds and will suffer even more casualties.
Don't be fooled by Ukro shills.
 

Rybar Force
@rybar_force1h
Orikhiv sector. August 31, 2023

AFU still failed to capture Rabotino

and break through the first defense line of the RF Armed Forces.
 

Sumela » 30 Aug 2023, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2023, 4:42 pm

Imperialism is the cause of this war. WASH DC's imperialism.

NATO in Ukraine training their military.

Helping them build war trenches/bunkers since 2015.

50 miles from Russia.

Now that's imperialism.

No, sir.
You are mistaken.
That is NATO Defense against the evilness of Communist Aggression.   
NATO is stronger today than it ever has been.

Thank you, Mr. Putin !!               

righteous » 31 Aug 2023, 8:35 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 8:35 am

UKRAINIANS ARE NOT DYING FOR THEIR FREEDOM. THEY'RE DYING TO LINE THE POCKETS OF ZELENSKY, HIS OLIGARCHS, BIDEN AND THE MIC. AND THERE IS PROOF WITH EVIDENCE

Ukrainians are looking across the border to Poland... Poland was a BROKEN, BANKRUPT, and DESTITUTE country when they separated from Russia... TODAY, they and their economy rival Germany, and put Russia to SHAME !!

Ukrainians are looking to LIVE FREE and successful like Poland does... NOT be PUPPET of Vladimir Putin and his TOTALITARIAN Basket case nation !!

Sumela » 31 Aug 2023, 10:20 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 10:20 am

Fake News....has cucked all the cuckies again...silly ***.
""""Ukes almost to Crimea!!!!"""
--------------------------------------------------------

-- GEROMAN -- time will tell
@GeromanAT
·
2h
Ukrainan forces breeched NOTHING and could not even secure Robotyne
They are now running down a valley secured by RF held high grounds and will suffer even more casualties.
Don't be fooled by Ukro shills.

Good news.
The Russian Volunteer Corps. had a success drone attack this week against
the Russian invaders.   RVC is a Pro-Ukraine Russian Guerrilla Force.
They do not want to murder their Christian brothers in Ukraine who speak
Russian.    They are like the French Resistance who fought against
Nazi Germany.      Maybe with their help we can bring peace to the entire region.            

sad sad days in Ukraine...

Running out of men

https://twitter.com/i/status/1697292279457681495

righteous » 31 Aug 2023, 8:35 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 8:35 am

UKRAINIANS ARE NOT DYING FOR THEIR FREEDOM. THEY'RE DYING TO LINE THE POCKETS OF ZELENSKY, HIS OLIGARCHS, BIDEN AND THE MIC. AND THERE IS PROOF WITH EVIDENCE

Looks like Mr. Putin bit-off more than he can chew.
Ukraine does not belong to Russia.....& that's a fact, Jack.
The Russian Invasion was.......unnecessary.
50,000 dead Russians + 150,000 wounded  = 200,000 casualties.

"Don't start no ****......and there won't be none".                                                 

Rybar Force
@rybar_force1h
Orikhiv sector. August 31, 2023

AFU still failed to capture Rabotino

and break through the first defense line of the RF Armed Forces.

   
 

Sumela » 31 Aug 2023, 8:29 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 8:29 am

Imperialism is - Murica Inc...Its called EMPIRE...The Mafia Empire:

--sanctioning over 40 countries (THAT was "Peaceful Persuasion"... "Sanctions" as America imposed them... were punishment, not conquest)

--illegally in Syria stealing their oil (RUSSIA is PERMANENTLY in Syria, US went in BRIEFLY to DESTROY ISIS, and is "stealing" NOTHING ! )

--destroying Iraq - killing millions - stealing their oil (America deposed Sadam Hussain, killed a bunch os ISIS NUT JOBS... and THEN...gave Iraq BACK to the Iraqi's... THAT is NOT Imperialistic... we STOLE NOTHING ! )

--destroying Libya - killing 100s of 1000s - stealing their oil (Libia & Muhmar Kydaffi was involved in killing American soldiers... Ronald Reagan went in and put the FEAR OF ALLAH into Kidaffi... and we STOLE NOTHING ! )

--Regime coups all over the world (PEACE KEEPER, and IMPERIALISM KILLER all over the world... THAT is why Russia & China HATE us... **** THEM !! )

--Using ISIS as a proxy army in Syria (YOU are **** CRAZY... and STUPID tom BOOT !!)

--Bombing Serbia and Yugoslavia - "bringing dumbocracy"  (WHEN did America EVER bomb EITHER Serbia or Yugoslavia... Links and FACTS... of GET **** LOST !)
 

Let me give you a little lesson in CIVICS... THIS must be why Democrats don't want civics taught in our public schools any longer... FORTUNATELY, I went to school BEFORE the Democrats eliminated it from the High School curriculum... and AFTER Donald Trump is re-elected... I hope ONE of the FIRST things he does... is PUT IT THE HELL BACK !!

IMPERIALISM...  is state policy, practice, or advocacy of extending power and dominion, especially by direct territorial acquisition or by gaining political and economic control of other areas. Because it always involves the use of power, whether military or economic or some subtler form, imperialism has often been considered morally reprehensible, and the term is frequently employed in international propaganda to denounce and discredit an opponent’s foreign policy.

In TODAYS WORLD... The above sounds a LOT more like Russia than it does America... and regarding YOUR above examples... my comments are in RED !!