Liberal Forum

RedheadedStranger » 01 Sep 2023, 5:57 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 5:57 am

I was going to say... I had those two stacks in the picture delivered for $100 each but I had to stack em, which was no biggie since it was dropped right beside where I stacked them.

The restaurants he sells too pay $150 a row, but he stacks theirs for them, and rotates if necessary.

I considered just throwing the wood in a pile in my woodshed.
It just takes up more room and it's slightly harder to pick pieces out to bring in.
So, better to stack it. It ain't that hard.  

I should get the flue cleaned too. Maybe next spring.
Can't ever tell if it really needs it though.
 

DeezerShoove » 01 Sep 2023, 6:55 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 6:55 am

I considered just throwing the wood in a pile in my woodshed.
It just takes up more room and it's slightly harder to pick pieces out to bring in.
So, better to stack it. It ain't that hard.  

I should get the flue cleaned too. Maybe next spring.
Can't ever tell if it really needs it though.

I'm not a neat freak by any stretch, but an unkempt pile of wood would drive me nuts.

I have read that with the style of stove I have with the new EPA regulated secondary burn system, that as long as I'm burning good clean seasoned hardwoods and keeping the burn tubes glowing most of the time that the creosote wont be a big problem.

The secondary burn system burns most of it up in the top of the box before it ever makes it to the flue, so there is nothing to build up. I intentionally built the stack at the lower end of the height requirements so it wouldn't get too cool before reaching the top too, which is where your biggest build up occurs. This set up drafts great, and start pulling almost immediately even when starting in a cold box.

From what I've read, with these new EPA regulated set ups and good wood, you only need to clean the very top of the stack most of the time, and very rarely at that. Inspection every season would still be advisable though for sure. 

I'm kinda hoping we get a couple of feet of the white stuff here this year, just because!
 
 
 

RedheadedStranger » 01 Sep 2023, 8:49 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 8:49 am

I'm not a neat freak by any stretch, but an unkempt pile of wood would drive me nuts.

I have read that with the style of stove I have with the new EPA regulated secondary burn system, that as long as I'm burning good clean seasoned hardwoods and keeping the burn tubes glowing most of the time that the creosote wont be a big problem.

The secondary burn system burns most of it up in the top of the box before it ever makes it to the flue, so there is nothing to build up. I intentionally built the stack at the lower end of the height requirements so it wouldn't get too cool before reaching the top too, which is where your biggest build up occurs. This set up drafts great, and start pulling almost immediately even when starting in a cold box.

From what I've read, with these new EPA regulated set ups and good wood, you only need to clean the very top of the stack most of the time, and very rarely at that. Inspection every season would still be advisable though for sure. 

I'm kinda hoping we get a couple of feet of the white stuff here this year, just because!

     We always rotated the wood stacks on our Property.... It was a good practice, as it greatly reduced Bees, Ants, Mice & Snakes making a home in them... Dad had Tarps he'd cover them with as well, because we got tons of rain in CT, and the split wood could mould or rot... 

Kobia2 » 01 Sep 2023, 3:19 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 3:19 pm

     We always rotated the wood stacks on our Property.... It was a good practice, as it greatly reduced Bees, Ants, Mice & Snakes making a home in them... Dad had Tarps he'd cover them with as well, because we got tons of rain in CT, and the split wood could mould or rot... 

Ahh yes... the cover verses don't cover the firewood debate. This is an old an argument as asking whether you smoke a pork butt with the fat cap up, or down. 

I typically only cover what I don't expect to burn through in a season, and then usually only through the colder months. Where I am is so humid in the summer that a cover will actually encourage mold growth on the splits of its under a tarp like cover.

I've just always tried to keepy stacks where they get at least a few hours of sun, and can catch a good breeze tho keep everything dry.

I r always tried to burn at least of what I have on hand so that I can keep it rotated easier as well.


 

Well.. this weekend we saw the first snow fall of autumn in the Sierras. Was only a dusting but hopefully this means another greater than average snowfall year.

impartialobserver » 05 Sep 2023, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 11:42 am

Well.. this weekend we saw the first snow fall of autumn in the Sierras. Was only a dusting but hopefully this means another greater than average snowfall year.

Holy cow! That's worse then us. We get our first  serious snow- usually on thanksgiving!
Some times a few inches at the start of deer season. by Nov 10- i need my wood done!
 

sootedupCyndi » 05 Sep 2023, 11:57 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 11:57 am

Holy cow! That's worse then us. We get our first  serious snow- usually on thanksgiving!
Some times a few inches at the start of deer season. by Nov 10- i need my wood done!

It has been an odd year out here. From Dec. 1, 2022 to mid April 2023.. it was mostly overcast, rainy, and cool (highs of 45 at the most). And then got some serious rain in May, June, and August. Those months are bone dry, wide open sunshine, and highs of 95 to 100. Even in the winter..it will snow and then wide open sunshine and blue skies with a high of 45 so the snow melts by lunchtime. 

impartialobserver » 05 Sep 2023, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 12:02 pm

It has been an odd year out here. From Dec. 1, 2022 to mid April 2023.. it was mostly overcast, rainy, and cool (highs of 45 at the most). And then got some serious rain in May, June, and August. Those months are bone dry, wide open sunshine, and highs of 95 to 100. Even in the winter..it will snow and then wide open sunshine and blue skies with a high of 45 so the snow melts by lunchtime.

We had an entire month of June- rain. Which is odd.

We tell winters by these creepy caterpillars that build webs in the trees... like spider webs.
When they build them low- not so much snow.
up high in the trees... big snowfall winter.
I've watched it- it really is kind of true. creepy things.
 

sootedupCyndi » 05 Sep 2023, 12:08 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 12:08 pm

We had an entire month of June- rain. Which is odd.

We tell winters by these creepy caterpillars that build webs in the trees... like spider webs.
When they build them low- not so much snow.
up high in the trees... big snowfall winter.
I've watched it- it really is kind of true. creepy things.

I do worry that more above-average precip years is going to lead to even more outsiders coming in. Specifically..It will lead the wide open high desert spaces to the north and east being populated. Currently, these places which are mostly playa (ultra fine, alkaline rich, sandy soil, with a layer of mud underneath) are simply too undesirable. However, a few years of 15+ inches of precip will change that. 

impartialobserver » 05 Sep 2023, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 1:20 pm

I do worry that more above-average precip years is going to lead to even more outsiders coming in. Specifically..It will lead the wide open high desert spaces to the north and east being populated. Currently, these places which are mostly playa (ultra fine, alkaline rich, sandy soil, with a layer of mud underneath) are simply too undesirable. However, a few years of 15+ inches of precip will change that.

I don't worry about it either... because some years-
  some- it's huge snow- some its freezing rain- other winters they call open- no snow.
we try to deal what comes our way?
better then waking up in florida- an entire house gone