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jerra b » 01 Sep 2023, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 9:49 am

the only one you support for free speech is trump. so you are against the constitution too. 

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 700521001/

Someone, please find Donald Trump a copy of the Constitution — preferably a simplified version with pictures and charts.  Once he absorbs what it says, perhaps he will stop trying to tear it apart.Trump is angry at athletes for exercising their right to speech; but his anger did not begin there. Last February, at a campaign rally in Texas, Donald Trump spoke of "open(ing) up libel laws." He never explained exactly what he meant but clearly is fed up with the First Amendment, which prohibits denying freedom of speech and the pres
 

I have lived long enough to figure out what separates dictatorship bullying from democratic bullying by a mob mentality of we say so by popular elected people serving a specific contextual possibility used ancestrally. leaderships and fellowships combined into organized ideologies imagining life isn't self evident.

Start with basics that time effects everything universally here same way differently as uniquely displaced as the cycle they were since arrival until departure both specific events spontaneously to occur simultaneously as all others have, doing, arrive to replace previous generation gaps next in the usual one at a time arrive processing.

Intellectual minds control behavior of results sharing time occupying space here affects each separately at the same time, do I really have to continue explaining how humanity corrupted every generation gap alive adapting in space here?

Every brain navigates by a sense of proportionately here nd every social character knows what they don't want discussed from family, friends, their side, allies, enemies combined.

Protect the faith and die defending people believing now isn't eternity and remove anyone saying it always has been. What I posted here fit the scenario that Biblically took place 101 generation gaps ago? 20 year average between conceived and becoming a parent or not. is the product of 2,020 revolutions this planet achieved between past and current population never duplicated an individual live time twice since inception of the species nor dawn of civilization.

Pastafarian » 01 Sep 2023, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 11:10 am

^^^^Defending incestuous tendencies. 

Cultists got to cult. 
 

Living simply happens with genetics eternally separating each ancestor occupying time here now since specifically conceived until specifically dead sharing space evolving forward at the same time now. Is that 100% accurate or not?

Yes or no answer. No exceptions or exemptions due to what a species invented to believe possible instead. See I understand what the original sin was and it has not a damn thing to do with God, Satan, eternal intellectual life after death without a form or function to be one's own time here now.

Zeets2 » 01 Sep 2023, 11:08 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 11:08 am

Sorry dickhead, but your repeated lies prove nothing.
Show where I have EVER in my thousands of posts failed to support freedom of speech?

I'll wait...

the only freedom of speech you support is for trump.

freedom of speech only for a few, that is not what is meant by freedom of speech.
 
 

jerrab » 01 Sep 2023, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 11:28 am

the only freedom of speech you support is for trump.

freedom of speech only for a few, that is not what is meant by freedom of speech.

So why can't you find any of my posts that's stated your idiotic claim is truthful?
 

Bruce » 31 Aug 2023, 12:43 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 12:43 am

• A federal judge issued a default judgment against former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani in a civil conspiracy lawsuit filed by two Georgia election workers.
• Judge Beryl Howell also ordered the former New York mayor to pay nearly $133,000 in sanctions for attorneys' fees for the plaintiffs, Ruby Freeman and Wandrea' ArShaye Moss.
• Giuliani is being sued over his claims the woman mishandled ballots in the 2020 presidential contest.
• He was indicted this month with Donald Trump and 17 others by an Atlanta grand jury that accused them of conspiring to illegally reverse Trump's loss to President Joe Biden in Georgia in 2020.

 A federal judge on Wednesday issued a default judgment against former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani and ordered him to pay sanctions of nearly $133,000 in a defamation and civil conspiracy lawsuit by two Georgia election workers whom he claimed mishandled ballots in the 2020 presidential contest.Judge Beryl Howell imposed the default judgment and monetary punishment because Giuliani repeatedly failed to comply with her orders to turn over electronically stored documents and other evidence sought by lawyers for the election workers, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/08/30/jud ... wsuit.html

This shuts off all Rudy’s money.

Ruby Freemen will get a lien on everything Rudy owns.

Rudy cannot raise money like Trump can, and Trump can’t afford to bail Rudy out financially.

Gulliani is going to flip on Trump and testify for Jani Willis.

They knew the election was not stolen.

Trump is going to prison in Georgia.

Yeah, BITCH, he's broke.

In 2023, Rudy Giuliani’s net worth is a topic of interest for many. With multiple sources stating varying figures, the consensus is that the former mayor of New York City, renowned lawyer, and businessman holds a fortune estimated between $40 million and $45 million. Over the years, Giuliani has capitalized on his position, earning lucratively from consultancies, public speaking, and his legal pursuits.

Chump change, **** and he can stroke a check in 20 seconds.

Zeets2 » 01 Sep 2023, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 11:39 am

So why can't you find any of my posts that's stated your idiotic claim is truthful?
 

Describing results isn't defining the method used. Define tomorrow doesn't mean time exceeds life limited to only evolving as displaced now a body never stays total sum achieved adapting in sequence of occupying space here since conceived and death reverses the evolving process that began a sole's journey at conception to death as a re[production changing current population here.

Just because intellectual mankind cannot invent perpetual motion doesn't mean it isn't already working.

Zeets2 » 01 Sep 2023, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 11:39 am

So why can't you find any of my posts that's stated your idiotic claim is truthful?

nothing abour the footballers having the right to kneel

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your  post------------------ ****!  The president has no authority to fire employees of a privately run company and therefore cannot "demand" anything of them!  
All Trump did was to state HIS opinion of what should be done with them, and possibly how HE would have reacted to an employee of HIS who showed such disrespect to the country.

So who is it that wants to take away the right of the president to voice his opinion?
Me or you?

jerrab » 01 Sep 2023, 12:08 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 12:08 pm

nothing abour the footballers having the right to kneel

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your  post------------------ ****!  The president has no authority to fire employees of a privately run company and therefore cannot "demand" anything of them!  
All Trump did was to state HIS opinion of what should be done with them, and possibly how HE would have reacted to an employee of HIS who showed such disrespect to the country.

So who is it that wants to take away the right of the president to voice his opinion?
Me or you?

So you're saying that Trump is not allowed to state an opinion on the subject according to YOUR satisfaction?
Who really gives a **** if you're content with his response or not?
Did Trump or I EVER say that they didn't have the RIGHT to kneel?
And do their employers not have the RIGHT to fire them if they breech their code of conduct while in their employ?

You could certainly use a course in understanding the Constitution, because you know NOTHING about what it restricts government from doing.
 

Zeets2 » 01 Sep 2023, 12:21 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 12:21 pm

So you're saying that Trump is not allowed to state an opinion on the subject according to YOUR satisfaction?
Who really gives a **** if you're content with his response or not?
Did Trump or I EVER say that they didn't have the RIGHT to kneel?
And do their employers not have the RIGHT to fire them if they breech their code of conduct while in their employ?

You could certainly use a course in understanding the Constitution, because you know NOTHING about what it restricts government from doing.

trump said it was disgraceful. and their employers are the ones to make the decision,

trump never ever ever said they had the right.

Meanwhile

Bidens America

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BgDs2Dgf ... ture=share

Zeets2 » 31 Aug 2023, 1:24 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 1:24 pm

Am I?  Or are you just annoyed that you have no one to blame for Biden's corruption and incompetence and the cause of:

Record high inflation?
Highest gas prices in decades?
An open border with Mexico?
Crime out of control?
Leaving hundreds of Americans and allies behind in Afghanistan?
Giving up our energy independence?
Throwing trillions of taxpayer dollars at the hoax of man-made climate change?
Becoming the laughing stock of every gathering of world leaders?
Lying repeatedly about his knowledge of Hunter's illegal foreign deals?
Selling off our Strategic Oil Reserves to China?
Rampant fentanyl and other drugs flooding the country through his open border?

Go ahead and try to defend both his stupidity for that and your own for continuing to support such a **** clown!

the good old biden defense.  whatever trump does is permittable with the biden defense.

jerrab » 01 Sep 2023, 1:24 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 1:24 pm

the good old biden defense.  whatever trump does is permittable with the biden defense.

Apparently, you're completely unable to defend ANY of those Biden policies I listed, ALL of which were in direct contrast to what Trump had done that had given us our booming economy compared to what your idiot has done.

So let's see you defend his lies and failed policies, according to a staunch (but ignorant) supporter of Biden's!
 

jerrab » 01 Sep 2023, 1:19 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 1:19 pm

trump said it was disgraceful. and their employers are the ones to make the decision,

trump never ever ever said they had the right.

Why should he need to?  Since when do you believe he should be taking orders from the likes of you, and according to what YOU want him to do?

If those players didn't have the right to kneel and Trump was his employer, he would have been completely within his right to fire them if he wanted to WITHOUT infringing on their right to free speech.  But he DOESN'T have that power, never stated that he did, and has no need or reason whatsoever to affirm their right to do so!

And you're an idiot for thinking that he does! 
 

Zeets2 » 01 Sep 2023, 1:52 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 1:52 pm

Why should he need to?  Since when do you believe he should be taking orders from the likes of you, and according to what YOU want him to do?

If those players didn't have the right to kneel and Trump was his employer, he would have been completely within his right to fire them if he wanted to WITHOUT infringing on their right to free speech.  But he DOESN'T have that power, never stated that he did, and has no need or reason whatsoever to affirm their right to do so!

And you're an idiot for thinking that he does!

you  are an idiot to say  that trump believes in free speech.

Sumela » 01 Sep 2023, 1:22 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 1:22 pm

Meanwhile

Bidens America

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BgDs2Dgf ... ture=share

Liberty of promises followed and secrets kept on the need to know basis.

Bruce » 31 Aug 2023, 1:12 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 1:12 am

With this Rudy can’t deny he told lies about Freeman.

This is a very unexpected gift to Fani Willis.

Rudy has lost his case, before trial, and only damages are going to be determined, likely in the millions.

But all Rudy’s credit cards will shut off, today.

Freeman has a lien on his bank accounts and his house and even his car.

Damn.

His lawyers will quit.

Hell get a free lawyer in Georgia, and the first thing he’ll do is work a deal to save Rudy.

Trump is ****. Rudy has evidence he won’t turn over and the judge in the libel case busted him.

https://www.georgiarecord.com/elections ... g-scandal/

He didn't actually tell any lies. Freedman herself has perjured herself. As for the default judgement that is one of the if not the easiest of appeals. Dream on as far as not turning over evidence against Trump, Trump did nothing wrong.

jerrab » 01 Sep 2023, 2:49 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 2:49 pm

you  are an idiot to say  that trump believes in free speech.

You are the epitome of idiocy if you think Biden or his FBI believe in free speech.

jerrab » 01 Sep 2023, 1:24 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 1:24 pm

the good old biden defense.  whatever trump does is permittable with the biden defense.

The Biden defense? You mean that he sold US policy for cash, treason? Or that he has refused to protect the sovereignty of the US? If we were to use that as a defense do you suppose all this lawfare against Trump would end? It would not you moron because Biden is not running the country. ****.

FredH » 01 Sep 2023, 3:36 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 3:36 pm

The Biden defense? You mean that he sold US policy for cash, treason? Or that he has refused to protect the sovereignty of the US? If we were to use that as a defense do you suppose all this lawfare against Trump would end? It would not you moron because Biden is not running the country. ****.

what ever trump does is always look at what biden does. what if Jesus was president? how would you defend trump then?

jerrab » 01 Sep 2023, 2:49 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 2:49 pm

you  are an idiot to say  that trump believes in free speech.

You're the idiot who can't point to a single instance where Trump has said anything to indicate he doesn't believe in free speech!
If you've got a shred of evidence of something that stupid, post it!
Yet here is evidence where Trump has SPECIFICALLY indicated he's for freedom of speech:

Trump says he’ll sign executive order for free speech on college campuses
BY TAL AXELROD - 03/02/19 

Trump announced Saturday he intends to sign an executive order mandating colleges and universities take steps to guarantee free speech to attain federal research grants. “We reject oppressive speech codes, censorship, political correctness and every other attempt by the hard left to stop people from challenging ridiculous and dangerous ideas.” Trump said. “Instead we believe in free speech, including online and including on campus.”

Here's another promoting free speech:

Trump's new social media company says users won't be censored — unless they disrespect the site
The terms of service for Truth Social state that users cannot "disparage, tarnish, or otherwise harm, in our opinion, us and/or the Site."
10/20/21  NBC News By Allan Smith

Former President Donald Trump pitched his new social media platform, Truth Social, as a haven for free speech and a counterweight to the big tech giants that have in recent years put a greater emphasis on moderating content users post to their sites.

And if you STILL choose to remain ignorant in denial, here's a 3rd one showing his support:

Trump vows ‘free speech’ reform of government, universities, media, tech firms if elected in 2024
CNBC  12/15/22

• Donald Trump on Thursday announced an aggressive and ambitious plan to undo what he characterized as the suppression of free speech in the US if he is elected president in 2024.
• Trump promised to target government agencies and employees, universities and tech companies with executive orders and policies aimed at their purported censorship of speech and ideas.
• “The censorship cartel must be dismantled and destroyed and it must happen immediately,” said the Republican

Now, look at the idiot that dopes like YOU helped to elect:

Biden administration threatens free speech with Title IX gender identity rule
BY  BLEVINS & SOMIN 09/12/22

American campuses, which should be havens for free speech, have become infested with puritanical zealotry that does not abide dissent, especially on controversial topics such as race and gender identity. Unfortunately, free speech on campus soon may face another setback. The Dept. of Education has proposed a rule that would hand campus crusaders a torch and pitchfork. 

The rule would expand Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972. Title IX was enacted to prevent discrimination and harassment on college campuses, a noble goal. But the Biden administration wants to weaponize the rule to smother dissent against the sacrosanct gender theory sweeping American schools.

 

Joe Biden transition official wrote op-ed advocating free speech restrictions
NY Post By Steven Nelson  11/13/20

President-elect Joe Biden’s transition team leader for US-owned media outlets wants to redefine freedom of speech and make “hate speech” a crime.

What do you have to say now, nimrod?