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Zeets2 » 01 Sep 2023, 5:55 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 5:55 pm

You're the idiot who can't point to a single instance where Trump has said anything to indicate he doesn't believe in free speech!
If you've got a shred of evidence of something that stupid, post it!
Yet here is evidence where Trump has SPECIFICALLY indicated he's for freedom of speech:

Here's another promoting free speech:

And if you STILL choose to remain ignorant in denial, here's a 3rd one showing his support:

Now, look at the idiot that dopes like YOU helped to elect:

What do you have to say now, nimrod?

you are an idiot.

WHEN THEY KNEELED THEY WERE USING THEIR RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. TRUMP CALLED THEM DISGRACEFUL AND DEMANDED THEY BE FIRED. WHERE  IN THE **** HELL  DOES HE SAY HE BELIEVES IN  FREE SPEECH FOR ANYONE BUT HIM??

jerrab » 01 Sep 2023, 6:02 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 6:02 pm

you are an idiot.

WHEN THEY KNEELED THEY WERE USING THEIR RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. TRUMP CALLED THEM DISGRACEFUL AND DEMANDED THEY BE FIRED. WHERE  IN THE **** HELL  DOES HE SAY HE BELIEVES IN  FREE SPEECH FOR ANYONE BUT HIM??

What is it?  In your feeble mind you can't be exercising your free speech right AND ALSO be doing something disgraceful?
Since when are they mutually exclusive?

If you watched as some homeless drug addict took a **** on the American flag and then wiped his *** with it, wouldn't YOU say his actions were disgraceful, while also recognizing his 1st Amendment right to do so?

Get your head out of your *** and accept the fact that Trump HAS THE RIGHT TO CALL SOMETHING DISGRACEFUL, DESPITE the fact that it may be protected by the 1st Amendment!  Are you so dumb that you don't think Trump has the SAME FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT to call out ANY action or speech he disagrees with?

Wise up, you **** moron!
 

Zeets2 » 01 Sep 2023, 6:48 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 6:48 pm

What is it?  In your feeble mind you can't be exercising your free speech right AND ALSO be doing something disgraceful?
Since when are they mutually exclusive?

If you watched as some homeless drug addict took a **** on the American flag and then wiped his *** with it, wouldn't YOU say his actions were disgraceful, while also recognizing his 1st Amendment right to do so?

Get your head out of your *** and accept the fact that Trump HAS THE RIGHT TO CALL SOMETHING DISGRACEFUL, DESPITE the fact that it may be protected by the 1st Amendment!  Are you so dumb that you don't think Trump has the SAME FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT to call out ANY action or speech he disagrees with?

Wise up, you **** moron!

the only persons you care to have the freedom of speech is yourself and trump. the football players were not **** on the flag. 

Zeets2 » 01 Sep 2023, 6:48 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 6:48 pm

What is it?  In your feeble mind you can't be exercising your free speech right AND ALSO be doing something disgraceful?
Since when are they mutually exclusive?

If you watched as some homeless drug addict took a **** on the American flag and then wiped his *** with it, wouldn't YOU say his actions were disgraceful, while also recognizing his 1st Amendment right to do so?

Get your head out of your *** and accept the fact that Trump HAS THE RIGHT TO CALL SOMETHING DISGRACEFUL, DESPITE the fact that it may be protected by the 1st Amendment!  Are you so dumb that you don't think Trump has the SAME FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT to call out ANY action or speech he disagrees with?

Wise up, you **** moron!

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 700521001/

Someone, please find Donald Trump a copy of the Constitution — preferably a simplified version with pictures and charts.  Once he absorbs what it says, perhaps he will stop trying to tear it apart.Trump is angry at athletes for exercising their right to speech; but his anger did not begin there. Last February, at a campaign rally in Texas, Donald Trump spoke of "open(ing) up libel laws." He never explained exactly what he meant but clearly is fed up with the First Amendment, which prohibits denying freedom of speech and the press.
 

Zeets2 » 01 Sep 2023, 6:48 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 6:48 pm

What is it?  In your feeble mind you can't be exercising your free speech right AND ALSO be doing something disgraceful?
Since when are they mutually exclusive?

If you watched as some homeless drug addict took a **** on the American flag and then wiped his *** with it, wouldn't YOU say his actions were disgraceful, while also recognizing his 1st Amendment right to do so?

Get your head out of your *** and accept the fact that Trump HAS THE RIGHT TO CALL SOMETHING DISGRACEFUL, DESPITE the fact that it may be protected by the 1st Amendment!  Are you so dumb that you don't think Trump has the SAME FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT to call out ANY action or speech he disagrees with?

Wise up, you **** moron!

 

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ent-215650


 When Trump speaks, it is as if the government were speaking. He can ordinarily say what he wishes. He can whip up frenzied opposition to Obamacare or NFL players. Yet there may nevertheless be judicially enforceable limitations.If the president’s words are designed to trigger the legal suppression of citizen speech, he may likely be violating the First Amendment.
 

A Goldilocks August jobs report today means that interest rates have peaked, and the risk of recession is shrinking to where it’s no longer expected, and after Labor Day the price of gasoline will begin its annual decline, as Ukraine steadily advances to close the land bridge Putin uses to supply Crimea.

Meanwhile in Atlanta Trump’s co defendants are not getting their attorney fees paid.

CNN) — Some of Donald Trump’s co-defendants in the sprawling election subversion case in Georgia are trying all sorts of ways to fund their mounting legal bills – yet the costs of the 2020 election fallout may quickly exceed their abilities to pay.

At least four have turned to crowdfunding online, raising hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay for defense lawyers. One now has a political action committee to help with legal fees. Another has an ally in Congress vowing to support his legal defense. While another ended up spending nearly a week in jail because he initially couldn’t afford to hire an attorney.

Trump has covered the legal bills of aides, advisers and employees during the House select committee’s probe into January 6, 2021, and federal investigations, including his two co-defendants in the classified documents case, Walt Nauta and Carlos De Oliveira, both of whom work for the former president.

But there is no sign yet that Trump intends to do so for any of his co-defendants in the Georgia case, which alleges that he and others engaged in a criminal conspiracy to subvert the state’s 2020 election results. In fact, Trump has publicly distanced himself from them, telling Newsmax he doesn’t know “a lot of these people.”

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Like the Bismarck, Trump is circling in the water, leaking oil from hits, and he looks pretty formidable out there from a long distance.

But his time will come.

https://youtu.be/M1Ufc2hI4FM?si=8HfBe7_AkZ_t_EDA

Bruce » 31 Aug 2023, 12:43 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2023, 12:43 am

• A federal judge issued a default judgment against former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani in a civil conspiracy lawsuit filed by two Georgia election workers.
• Judge Beryl Howell also ordered the former New York mayor to pay nearly $133,000 in sanctions for attorneys' fees for the plaintiffs, Ruby Freeman and Wandrea' ArShaye Moss.
• Giuliani is being sued over his claims the woman mishandled ballots in the 2020 presidential contest.
• He was indicted this month with Donald Trump and 17 others by an Atlanta grand jury that accused them of conspiring to illegally reverse Trump's loss to President Joe Biden in Georgia in 2020.

 A federal judge on Wednesday issued a default judgment against former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani and ordered him to pay sanctions of nearly $133,000 in a defamation and civil conspiracy lawsuit by two Georgia election workers whom he claimed mishandled ballots in the 2020 presidential contest.Judge Beryl Howell imposed the default judgment and monetary punishment because Giuliani repeatedly failed to comply with her orders to turn over electronically stored documents and other evidence sought by lawyers for the election workers, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/08/30/jud ... wsuit.html

This shuts off all Rudy’s money.

Ruby Freemen will get a lien on everything Rudy owns.

Rudy cannot raise money like Trump can, and Trump can’t afford to bail Rudy out financially.

Gulliani is going to flip on Trump and testify for Jani Willis.

They knew the election was not stolen.

Trump is going to prison in Georgia.

BRUCIE IS NOT EXTINCT       

 

jerra b » 01 Sep 2023, 4:16 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 4:16 pm

what ever trump does is always look at what biden does. what if Jesus was president? how would you defend trump then?

Not defending Trump, explaining how he is a lesser of two evils live. Devil in details lived by my ancestry ignoring the one universal constant that changes everything currently evolving forward now.

the whole is equal to total sum of what is remaining here now. I am just a replacement to those came before my conception as proportionately here. Simple compounding chromosomes never staying same form arrived a fertilized cell between universal locations eroding and which ancestors are still occupying time now.

jerrab » 01 Sep 2023, 8:03 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 8:03 pm

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ent-215650

 When Trump speaks, it is as if the government were speaking. He can ordinarily say what he wishes. He can whip up frenzied opposition to Obamacare or NFL players. Yet there may nevertheless be judicially enforceable limitations.If the president’s words are designed to trigger the legal suppression of citizen speech, he may likely be violating the First Amendment.

OK, so what was the Trump quote that you claim was "designed to trigger the legal suppression of citizen speech"? 
Once again, either substantiate what you think Trump said that stopped anyone from kneeling during the National Anthem?
Isn't it obvious to even a low-brow liberal that NOTHING stopped the protesters from doing so, since they did it repeatedly at several venues across the country without any ramifications or reprisals for their actions, other than the booing they received from the crowd?  Trump expressed HIS OPINION of their actions, as is permitted by HIS 1st Amendment right, which is NOT lost when a person becomes president, much to your chagrin!
 

Nostradamus'omh » 02 Sep 2023, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 8:56 am

Not defending Trump, explaining how he is a lesser of two evils live. Devil in details lived by my ancestry ignoring the one universal constant that changes everything currently evolving forward now.

the whole is equal to total sum of what is remaining here now. I am just a replacement to those came before my conception as proportionately here. Simple compounding chromosomes never staying same form arrived a fertilized cell between universal locations eroding and which ancestors are still occupying time now.

trump with his arrogant ways and his insolent words would eventually get us into ww3 with russia. 

Zeets2 » 02 Sep 2023, 12:04 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 12:04 pm

OK, so what was the Trump quote that you claim was "designed to trigger the legal suppression of citizen speech"? 
Once again, either substantiate what you think Trump said that stopped anyone from kneeling during the National Anthem?
Isn't it obvious to even a low-brow liberal that NOTHING stopped the protesters from doing so, since they did it repeatedly at several venues across the country without any ramifications or reprisals for their actions, other than the booing they received from the crowd?  Trump expressed HIS OPINION of their actions, as is permitted by HIS 1st Amendment right, which is NOT lost when a person becomes president, much to your chagrin!

idiot. they stopped. 

jerrab » 01 Sep 2023, 6:02 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 6:02 pm

you are an idiot.

WHEN THEY KNEELED THEY WERE USING THEIR RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. TRUMP CALLED THEM DISGRACEFUL AND DEMANDED THEY BE FIRED. WHERE  IN THE **** HELL  DOES HE SAY HE BELIEVES IN  FREE SPEECH FOR ANYONE BUT HIM??

Yeah, you've become the mind reader that knows what Trump believes, huh?
YOU DON'T GET TO TAKE AWAY TRUMP'S FREEDOM OF SPEECH BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAPPEN TO LIKE IT!
And since those players WERE NOT FIRED because of Trump's statement, his words had exactly ZERO EFFECT on the players or on the ownership of the team!  NOBODY interfered with their freedom of speech to kneel, DID THEY?

Fools like you are so blinded by your hatred for Trump that you don't give a **** how dumb an accusation you make is, as long as it's aimed at Trump!  Well, too bad dickhead!  Trump has the same rights as you and I, whether you like it or not!


 

Zeets2 » 02 Sep 2023, 12:14 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 12:14 pm

Yeah, you've become the mind reader that knows what Trump believes, huh?
YOU DON'T GET TO TAKE AWAY TRUMP'S FREEDOM OF SPEECH BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAPPEN TO LIKE IT!
And since those players WERE NOT FIRED because of Trump's statement, his words had exactly ZERO EFFECT on the players or on the ownership of the team!  NOBODY interfered with their freedom of speech to kneel, DID THEY?

Fools like you are so blinded by your hatred for Trump that you don't give a **** how dumb an accusation you make is, as long as it's aimed at Trump!  Well, too bad dickhead!  Trump has the same rights as you and I, whether you like it or not!

the only person you say who should have freedom of speech is trump. 

jerrab » 02 Sep 2023, 12:06 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 12:06 pm

idiot. they stopped.

They stopped, NOT because of anything that Trump said or did!  They were stopped by the teams ownership who heard of the backlash from the fans, who are their customers!  And THEY have the right to inflict any morals clause they want on their employees!  Other team owners chose to keep their players in the locker room while the National Anthem was played to avoid the problem altogether.
 

Zeets2 » 02 Sep 2023, 12:04 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 12:04 pm

OK, so what was the Trump quote that you claim was "designed to trigger the legal suppression of citizen speech"? 
Once again, either substantiate what you think Trump said that stopped anyone from kneeling during the National Anthem?
Isn't it obvious to even a low-brow liberal that NOTHING stopped the protesters from doing so, since they did it repeatedly at several venues across the country without any ramifications or reprisals for their actions, other than the booing they received from the crowd?  Trump expressed HIS OPINION of their actions, as is permitted by HIS 1st Amendment right, which is NOT lost when a person becomes president, much to your chagrin!

https://www.axios.com/2018/06/05/the-nf ... 1528232927

Zeets2 » 02 Sep 2023, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 12:37 pm

They stopped, NOT because of anything that Trump said or did!  They were stopped by the teams ownership who heard of the backlash from the fans, who are their customers!  And THEY have the right to inflict any morals clause they want on their employees!  Other team owners chose to keep their players in the locker room while the National Anthem was played to avoid the problem altogether.

nothing about fans. but trump used his position to turn his supporters against the kneelers.

-------------------------------------------------------------------The tale of the tape:

• September 2017: Trump seizes on kneeling as a political issue during the Alabama special Senate election. "Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a b*tch off the field right now. Out. He's fired. He's fired!'"
• October 2017: NFL owners sense they're on the losing side of the equation, and urge each other and players in a secret meeting to crack down on the kneelers.
• May 2018: The NFL caves to Trump, announcing penalties for any team whose players kneel or protest on the field during the National Anthem.
• Yesterday: Trump turns his ire on the Eagles. "They disagree with their President because he insists that they proudly stand for the National Anthem, hand on heart," he said in a statement.

jerrab » 02 Sep 2023, 12:20 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 12:20 pm

the only person you say who should have freedom of speech is trump.

****!  All you lying liberal scumbags attempt to do is to wrongly accuse Trump of doing something that the idiot that YOU elected HAS ACTUALLY DONE with his interference with social media WHICH STOPPED the publishing of ANY OPINIONS THEY DIDN'T LIKE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, and THAT'S A FACT!  You're not fooling anyone with your self-righteous ****!  If Trump actually did what Biden did, your asshole Democrats would have tried to impeach him a third time!

Why don't you try to deny how Biden, the FBI and the DNC colluded with Twitter and Facebook among others to stifle the speech of ANYONE who opposed him or his policies?

And here's the proof of that, as if you didn't already know it in your feeble attempt to shift blame away from your diaper boy!:

Biden DOJ to fight court order that blocked feds from colluding with Big Tech to censor speech
A federal judge found that the Biden administration 'likely violated the First Amendment'
By Brianna Herlihy Fox News August 10, 2023

 

Judge praised for 'stunning' July 4 rebuke of Biden admin on Big Tech censorship: 'Finally'
Federal judge says White House likely violated First Amendment during COVID-19 pandemic 

By Madeline Coggins Fox News
Published July 5, 2023

So now we know precisely WHOSE party acted illegally by censoring free speech, AS AJUDICATED BY THE COURTS! 
And you phony lying libs can't stand it! 

So when you get a judge to support your idiotic claim as they did against Biden, be sure to get back to me, OK?
 

Zeets2 » 02 Sep 2023, 12:57 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 12:57 pm

****!  All you lying liberal scumbags attempt to do is to wrongly accuse Trump of doing something that the idiot that YOU elected HAS ACTUALLY DONE with his interference with social media WHICH STOPPED the publishing of ANY OPINIONS THEY DIDN'T LIKE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, and THAT'S A FACT!  You're not fooling anyone with your self-righteous ****!  If Trump actually did what Biden did, your asshole Democrats would have tried to impeach him a third time!

Why don't you try to deny how Biden, the FBI and the DNC colluded with Twitter and Facebook among others to stifle the speech of ANYONE who opposed him or his policies?

And here's the proof of that, as if you didn't already know it in your feeble attempt to shift blame away from your diaper boy!:

So now we know precisely WHOSE party acted illegally by censoring free speech, AS AJUDICATED BY THE COURTS! 
And you phony lying libs can't stand it! 

So when you get a judge to support your idiotic claim as they did against Biden, be sure to get back to me, OK?

big tech is not private citizens but again the biden defense. now how would you defend trump if Jesus was president? and I want to answer this question, HOW WOULD YOU DEFEND TRUMP IF JESUS WAS PRESIDENT?

trump took an oath to to defend the constitution  and guarantee free speech and I guess free speech  was just for him.

Zeets2 » 02 Sep 2023, 12:57 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 12:57 pm

****!  All you lying liberal scumbags attempt to do is to wrongly accuse Trump of doing something that the idiot that YOU elected HAS ACTUALLY DONE with his interference with social media WHICH STOPPED the publishing of ANY OPINIONS THEY DIDN'T LIKE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, and THAT'S A FACT!  You're not fooling anyone with your self-righteous ****!  If Trump actually did what Biden did, your asshole Democrats would have tried to impeach him a third time!

Why don't you try to deny how Biden, the FBI and the DNC colluded with Twitter and Facebook among others to stifle the speech of ANYONE who opposed him or his policies?

And here's the proof of that, as if you didn't already know it in your feeble attempt to shift blame away from your diaper boy!:

So now we know precisely WHOSE party acted illegally by censoring free speech, AS AJUDICATED BY THE COURTS! 
And you phony lying libs can't stand it! 

So when you get a judge to support your idiotic claim as they did against Biden, be sure to get back to me, OK?

^^^ One triggered bitch!^^^^^^^
 
 

jerra b » 02 Sep 2023, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Sep 2023, 12:05 pm

trump with his arrogant ways and his insolent words would eventually get us into ww3 with russia. 

You never see yourself as part of one species always defending the stereotype physical features ancestors have replacing their previous generation gaps forward now in plain sight and personal time adapting to the moment here equally present ignoring the basics of living never exceeds adapting to the moment now.

Trump isn't the only contextual soul that gave away their sole time being alive here. I am witnessing 8 billion ancestors doing it outside my skin with a body never same results twice.


I am one male replacement to specific 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great grandparents, 16 great great grandparents born a century prior to my arrival.
Where is it you do not see genetics is the source of eternal separation of lifetimes here now? Choices followed, promises made, secrets kept to achieve rank gets privileges in any reality today.