Geezus this is bad for Trump

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31 Aug 2023 12:43 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Zeets2
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jerrab » 02 Sep 2023, 1:11 pm » wrote: big tech is not private citizens but again the biden defense. now how would you defend trump if Jesus was president? and I want to answer this question, HOW WOULD YOU DEFEND TRUMP IF JESUS WAS PRESIDENT?

trump took an oath to to defend the constitution  and guarantee free speech and I guess free speech  was just for him.
Jesus would NEVER have brought charges against Trump for such **** as Biden has done!

And Trump HAS defended the Constitution AND guaranteed free speech as I proved to you with his actions while in office!  
It's dopes like YOU that want to take HIS free speech away, all while you ignorantly ignore how Obama, Biden, and the FBI actually DID take away Trump's and other conservatives and Republican's 1st Amendment rights by colluding with social media to shut down Trump's Twitter account just prior to the election, just as they did with dozens of other conservatives simply because Biden can't tolerate ANY opposition to his corrupt administration.  

Liberals will ALWAYS accuse the other side of doing what they HAVE ALREADY DONE, despite not having a shred of evidence for their own absurd claim!  

So why can't you deny how YOUR diaper-boy took away Trump's right to free speech and weaponized the DOJ and the FBI to do his dirty work for him AS WELL AS interfering with the 2020 election by colluding to get 51 left-wing former intelligence agents to sign a petition that the Hunter laptop was "Russian disinformation", DESPITE THE FBI KNOWING FULL WELL THAT IT WAS AUTHENTIC AT THAT TIME!

There WILL be penalties for their actions as soon as your corrupt AG is thrown out of office next year and an honest Attorney General is appointed by Trump when he wins the election.

Best prepare yourself for the inevitable, you lying scumbag!
 
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jerra b
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Zeets2 » 03 Sep 2023, 8:46 am » wrote: Jesus would NEVER have brought charges against Trump for such **** as Biden has done!

And Trump HAS defended the Constitution AND guaranteed free speech as I proved to you with his actions while in office!  
It's dopes like YOU that want to take HIS free speech away, all while you ignorantly ignore how Obama, Biden, and the FBI actually DID take away Trump's and other conservatives and Republican's 1st Amendment rights by colluding with social media to shut down Trump's Twitter account just prior to the election, just as they did with dozens of other conservatives simply because Biden can't tolerate ANY opposition to his corrupt administration.  

Liberals will ALWAYS accuse the other side of doing what they HAVE ALREADY DONE, despite not having a shred of evidence for their own absurd claim!  

So why can't you deny how YOUR diaper-boy took away Trump's right to free speech and weaponized the DOJ and the FBI to do his dirty work for him AS WELL AS interfering with the 2020 election by colluding to get 51 left-wing former intelligence agents to sign a petition that the Hunter laptop was "Russian disinformation", DESPITE THE FBI KNOWING FULL WELL THAT IT WAS AUTHENTIC AT THAT TIME!

There WILL be penalties for their actions as soon as your corrupt AG is thrown out of office next year and an honest Attorney General is appointed by Trump when he wins the election.

Best prepare yourself for the inevitable, you lying scumbag!

trump stomped all over free speech. 
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3 Sep 2023 10:19 am
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jerrab » 03 Sep 2023, 8:49 am » wrote: trump stomped all over free speech.
You can't lie like that when you know damn well that Biden took specific actions to weaponize the FBI and the DOJ with the SPECIFIC INTENT to take away the free speech rights of Trump and DOZENS of other conservatives and keep them from posting on social media, while Trump did NONE OF THAT! 
That's the undeniable FACT!

So why can't you defend Biden's actions by claiming he had 51 former intelligence agents that all swore the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation, WHEN THE FBI HAD ALREADY CONFIRMED THE LAPTOP WAS AUTHENTIC?

Go ahead and keep trying to equate Biden's election interference and his destruction of the 1st Amendment rights of the dozens of people who he had silenced on social media for the terrible crime of daring to speak out in opposition to Biden's corrupt policies!

You can't defend them, we all KNOW you can't defend them, and you know damn well that's the only reason Biden's corrupt DOJ suddenly decided to indict Trump on phony **** charges in trials early next year so that Trump would be held in court and wouldn't be able to campaign.  THAT'S the actions of a desperate man who knows he doesn't belong in the White House, and unless you're a total imbecile, you too know he's too incompetent to lead this country!
 
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Zeets2 » 03 Sep 2023, 10:19 am » wrote: You can't lie like that when you know damn well that Biden took specific actions to weaponize the FBI and the DOJ with the SPECIFIC INTENT to take away the free speech rights of Trump and DOZENS of other conservatives and keep them from posting on social media, while Trump did NONE OF THAT! 
That's the undeniable FACT!

So why can't you defend Biden's actions by claiming he had 51 former intelligence agents that all swore the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation, WHEN THE FBI HAD ALREADY CONFIRMED THE LAPTOP WAS AUTHENTIC?

Go ahead and keep trying to equate Biden's election interference and his destruction of the 1st Amendment rights of the dozens of people who he had silenced on social media for the terrible crime of daring to speak out in opposition to Biden's corrupt policies!

You can't defend them, we all KNOW you can't defend them, and you know damn well that's the only reason Biden's corrupt DOJ suddenly decided to indict Trump on phony **** charges in trials early next year so that Trump would be held in court and wouldn't be able to campaign.  THAT'S the actions of a desperate man who knows he doesn't belong in the White House, and unless you're a total imbecile, you too know he's too incompetent to lead this country!

did trump have  fake electors?

yes or no?
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Zeets2 » 03 Sep 2023, 10:19 am » wrote: You can't lie like that when you know damn well that Biden took specific actions to weaponize the FBI and the DOJ with the SPECIFIC INTENT to take away the free speech rights of Trump and DOZENS of other conservatives and keep them from posting on social media, while Trump did NONE OF THAT! 
That's the undeniable FACT!

So why can't you defend Biden's actions by claiming he had 51 former intelligence agents that all swore the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation, WHEN THE FBI HAD ALREADY CONFIRMED THE LAPTOP WAS AUTHENTIC?

Go ahead and keep trying to equate Biden's election interference and his destruction of the 1st Amendment rights of the dozens of people who he had silenced on social media for the terrible crime of daring to speak out in opposition to Biden's corrupt policies!

You can't defend them, we all KNOW you can't defend them, and you know damn well that's the only reason Biden's corrupt DOJ suddenly decided to indict Trump on phony **** charges in trials early next year so that Trump would be held in court and wouldn't be able to campaign.  THAT'S the actions of a desperate man who knows he doesn't belong in the White House, and unless you're a total imbecile, you too know he's too incompetent to lead this country!
it seems to me trump brought all this on his own. trump breaks the law and cries persecution? give me a break

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Georgia Election Interference CaseGeorgia state courtTrump’s efforts to overturn his loss in the 2020 election were perhaps most aggressive in the state of Georgia. Multiple recounts confirmed that President Joe Biden narrowly prevailed in the race for the state’s 16 electoral votes. But Trump and his allies spread lies about voter fraud, urged Georgia officials and state lawmakers to reverse Biden’s win and plotted to send fake electors to Washington. On Jan. 2, 2021, Trump called Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, and urged him to “find” 11,780 votes — the number needed to overcome Biden’s victory. Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis charged Trump and 18 of his allies for these efforts, alleging a wide-ranging criminal enterprise.StatusInvestigation
Indictment
Trial
Verdict
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DroppedWillis opened the criminal investigation in February 2021. She summoned many of Trump’s top allies before a so-called special grand jury, which had the power to investigate crimes but not to approve criminal charges. In the summer of 2023, Willis presented her evidence to a regular grand jury, which approved a 98-page indictment on Aug. 14, 2023.
 
 
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The Classified Documents Case
U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida


Federal prosecutors, led by special counsel Jack Smith, have accused Trump of taking highly sensitive national security documents when he left the White House in January 2021. He stashed those documents haphazardly throughout his Mar-a-Lago resort and obstructed the government’s repeated attempts to retrieve them, prosecutors allege. On at least two occasions, Trump showed classified documents to individuals who were not authorized to view them, prosecutors say. During one of those episodes — which was audio-recorded — Trump allegedly displayed a top-secret military plan of attack while telling visitors, “As president I could have declassified it” but “now I can’t,” adding that the document he was showing them was “still a secret.”
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Charges
The Espionage Act makes it a crime to retain records containing sensitive national security information.
The first 32 counts against Trump arise from 32 specific documents that he allegedly hoarded at Mar-a-Lago and refused to give back, even though he was no longer entitled to possess them after his presidency. Of the 32 documents, 31 were marked classified, and many concerned foreign military capabilities, military activities or nuclear weapons, according to the indictment. The remaining eight felony counts arise from Trump’s alleged efforts to stymie the investigation, including directing Nauta to move boxes in the hope that neither Trump’s own lawyer nor the FBI would discover some of the classified documents.

32 felony counts of willful retention of national defense information in violation of the Espionage Act | 6 felony counts of obstruction-related crimes under 18 U.S.C. § 1512 and 18 U.S.C. § 1519 | 2 felony counts of false statements under 18 U.S.C. § 1001
 
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3 Sep 2023 11:16 am
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jerrab » 03 Sep 2023, 8:49 am » wrote: trump stomped all over free speech.
Instead of just blurting out the first stupid idea  that pops into your little monkey skull...provide us with some examples that will back up your claim.... :idea:  
 
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GHETTOBLASTER » 03 Sep 2023, 11:16 am » wrote: Instead of just blurting out the first stupid idea  that pops into your little monkey skull...provide us with some examples that will back up your claim.... Image
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... m-protests
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Educate yourself ****. 
Your ridiculous  example does not prove that Trump ever "STOMPED ALL OVER FREE SPEECH" as you claimed.

Freedom of Speech in the Workplace: Can Employees Really Say Anything They Want? | HRdirect
"Many people wrongly assume the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution entitles them to express their views whenever and wherever they want. However, regarding freedom of speech in the workplace, this protection extends only to public sector (i.e., government) employees. With few exceptions, private employers aren’t required to let free speech reign throughout the workplace."

What is the NFL’s national anthem protest policy? Here are the rules for kneeling in 2020 | Sporting News
Yes, the NFL technically still has a national anthem policy that prohibits players from kneeling during the singing or playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner" before games. 
TRUMP HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NFL'S PRE-EXISTING POLICY YOU STUPID PIECE OF **** LIBTARD.... Image  
STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO PROVE THAT TRUMP "STOMPED ALL OVER FREE SPEECH" YOU  PIECE OF **** LIAR
 
 
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jerra b
3 Sep 2023 12:01 pm
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GHETTOBLASTER » 03 Sep 2023, 11:53 am » wrote: Educate yourself ****. 
Your ridiculous  example does not prove that Trump ever "STOMPED ALL OVER FREE SPEECH" as you claimed.

Freedom of Speech in the Workplace: Can Employees Really Say Anything They Want? | HRdirect
"Many people wrongly assume the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution entitles them to express their views whenever and wherever they want. However, regarding freedom of speech in the workplace, this protection extends only to public sector (i.e., government) employees. With few exceptions, private employers aren’t required to let free speech reign throughout the workplace."

What is the NFL’s national anthem protest policy? Here are the rules for kneeling in 2020 | Sporting News
Yes, the NFL technically still has a national anthem policy that prohibits players from kneeling during the singing or playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner" before games. 
TRUMP HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NFL'S PRE-EXISTING POLICY YOU STUPID PIECE OF **** LIBTARD.... Image  
STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO PROVE THAT TRUMP "STOMPED ALL OVER FREE SPEECH" YOU  PIECE OF **** LIAR
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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ent-215650


When Trump speaks, it is as if the government were speaking. He can ordinarily say what he wishes. He can whip up frenzied opposition to Obamacare or NFL players. Yet there may nevertheless be judicially enforceable limitations.If the president’s words are designed to trigger the legal suppression of citizen speech, he may likely be violating the First Amendment. 
 
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jerra b
3 Sep 2023 12:02 pm
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GHETTOBLASTER » 03 Sep 2023, 11:53 am » wrote: Educate yourself ****. 
Your ridiculous  example does not prove that Trump ever "STOMPED ALL OVER FREE SPEECH" as you claimed.

Freedom of Speech in the Workplace: Can Employees Really Say Anything They Want? | HRdirect
"Many people wrongly assume the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution entitles them to express their views whenever and wherever they want. However, regarding freedom of speech in the workplace, this protection extends only to public sector (i.e., government) employees. With few exceptions, private employers aren’t required to let free speech reign throughout the workplace."

What is the NFL’s national anthem protest policy? Here are the rules for kneeling in 2020 | Sporting News
Yes, the NFL technically still has a national anthem policy that prohibits players from kneeling during the singing or playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner" before games. 
TRUMP HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NFL'S PRE-EXISTING POLICY YOU STUPID PIECE OF **** LIBTARD.... Image  
STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO PROVE THAT TRUMP "STOMPED ALL OVER FREE SPEECH" YOU  PIECE OF **** LIAR

it is up to the nfl and the owners to say anything, not trump.
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3 Sep 2023 12:27 pm
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jerrab » 03 Sep 2023, 12:02 pm » wrote: it is up to the nfl and the owners to say anything, not trump.

So here you are trying to STOMP ALL OVER TRUMP'S RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH...!!!!
Don't you realize how **** stupid you make yourself look day in and day out...?
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jerrab » 03 Sep 2023, 10:35 am » wrote: did trump have  fake electors?

yes or no?
There's nothing illegal about having alternate electors.
And no, they can't be called "fake".
 
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jerrab » 03 Sep 2023, 12:01 pm » wrote: --------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ent-215650

When Trump speaks, it is as if the government were speaking. He can ordinarily say what he wishes. He can whip up frenzied opposition to Obamacare or NFL players. Yet there may nevertheless be judicially enforceable limitations.If the president’s words are designed to trigger the legal suppression of citizen speech, he may likely be violating the First Amendment.

THE NFL HAD A POLICY THAT PROHIBITS POLITICAL STATEMENTS OF ANY KIND. THE PLAYERS HAVE TO "SIGN OFF" ON THIS POLICY ..JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE WHO IS SEEKING EMPLOYMENT.
SO WHAT YOU SHOW HERE IS "WHAT-ABOUTISM" AT IT'S FINEST
STILL WAITING TO SEE YOU SHOW PROOF THAT "TRUMP STOMPED ALL OVER FREE SPEECH"
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3 Sep 2023 12:34 pm
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GHETTOBLASTER » 03 Sep 2023, 12:27 pm » wrote: So here you are trying to STOMP ALL OVER TRUMP'S RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH...!!!!
Don't you realize how **** stupid you make yourself look day in and day out...?
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you are as a big a fraud as your mustard colored messiah. only trump has the right to free speech. what a pos.
 
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GHETTOBLASTER » 03 Sep 2023, 12:32 pm » wrote: THE NFL HAD A POLICY THAT PROHIBITS POLITICAL STATEMENTS OF ANY KIND. THE PLAYERS HAVE TO "SIGN OFF" ON THIS POLICY ..JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE WHO IS SEEKING EMPLOYMENT.
SO WHAT YOU SHOW HERE IS "WHAT-ABOUTISM" AT IT'S FINEST
STILL WAITING TO SEE YOU SHOW PROOF THAT "TRUMP STOMPED ALL OVER FREE SPEECH"

it is up to the owners to say anything, not trump.
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3 Sep 2023 12:37 pm
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jerrab » 03 Sep 2023, 10:48 am » wrote: it seems to me trump brought all this on his own. trump breaks the law and cries persecution? give me a break

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https://politico.com/interactives/2023/ ... cker-list/

Georgia Election Interference CaseGeorgia state courtTrump’s efforts to overturn his loss in the 2020 election were perhaps most aggressive in the state of Georgia. Multiple recounts confirmed that President Joe Biden narrowly prevailed in the race for the state’s 16 electoral votes. But Trump and his allies spread lies about voter fraud, urged Georgia officials and state lawmakers to reverse Biden’s win and plotted to send fake electors to Washington. On Jan. 2, 2021, Trump called Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, and urged him to “find” 11,780 votes — the number needed to overcome Biden’s victory. Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis charged Trump and 18 of his allies for these efforts, alleging a wide-ranging criminal enterprise.StatusInvestigation
Indictment
Trial
Verdict
Appeal
DroppedWillis opened the criminal investigation in February 2021. She summoned many of Trump’s top allies before a so-called special grand jury, which had the power to investigate crimes but not to approve criminal charges. In the summer of 2023, Willis presented her evidence to a regular grand jury, which approved a 98-page indictment on Aug. 14, 2023.
Unlike Biden, Trump broke NO LAWS!
And that's what the court will find, either in the first trial or when an actual non-partisan jury hears the evidence in a court of appeals.

Now, why do you still refuse to admit how Biden has illegally interfered with the election, and explain how you stupid liberals think it was perfectly legal to get the FBI to claim the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation when they had already established the fact that it was authentic?  Then explain how Biden DID NOT take away the freedom of speech of each conservative the FBI ordered Twitter and Facebook to de-platform or suspend their accounts for voicing an opinion they didn't like?

Looks like you think you can continue to ignore those facts and stupidly think those crimes won't be charged once the corrupt Biden administration is removed from office!
 
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jerrab » 03 Sep 2023, 12:35 pm » wrote: it is up to the owners to say anything, not trump.
Can you show me any law that prevents the POTUS from voicing his opinion about current events that are of a political nature...?
Where were your protests when Obama spoke out in defense of Trayvon Martin and when Biden openly hoped that Rittenhouse was found guilty...?
So yeah....keep digging that "great big hole full of stupid" for yourself....it's great fun to watch... :clap:  
 
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jerrab » 03 Sep 2023, 12:35 pm » wrote: it is up to the owners to say anything, not trump.
So once again, YOU believe Trump is not entitled to the same freedom of speech that everyone else has, and that's what makes you such a phony who thinks that freedom only applies to those who speak what you LIKE to hear!

You'd make a terrific Nazi!
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