17 years is better than life

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By Bruce
31 Aug 2023 1:55 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Beekeeper » 01 Sep 2023, 8:23 am » wrote: So, KNEEGROW ****, what CRIME were they conspiring to commit?? And how does FREE SPEECH not apply when "conspiring" to commit LEGAL ACTS and means NO law(s) were broken???
Why do judges give almost 20 years to the Proud Boys who flew to Washington D C not to protest but to incite others to go inside the Capitol and terrorize Mike Pence into accepting seven false certificates of Trump electors, and stealing an election, and igniting another civil war?

He will do 85% of 17 years.

And hopefully in about ten years these Putin loving piece of **** Fox News blinded Trumpies won’t be such a threat to the constitution and a President can commute the sentence for those that repent.

Blood almost ran deep in the streets.

99% of Trumpies are ignorant old men who watch Fox News.

1% are Proud Boys.

The Proud Boys is an exclusively male North American far-right neo-fascist militant organization that promotes and engages in political violence.[1][10][11] The group's leaders have been convicted of violently opposing the US government, including the constitutionally prescribed transfer of presidential power.[12] It has been called a street gang[13][14] and was designated as a terrorist group in Canada[15][16] and New Zealand.[9] The Proud Boys are known for their opposition to left-wing and progressivegroups and for their support for former U.S. President Donald Trump.[1][11]

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Bruce » 01 Sep 2023, 9:05 am » wrote: Why do judges give almost 20 years to the Proud Boys who flew to Washington D C not to protest but to incite others to go inside the Capitol and terrorize Mike Pence into accepting seven false certificates of Trump electors, and stealing an election, and igniting another civil war?

He will do 85% of 17 years.

And hopefully in about ten years these Putin loving piece of **** Fox News blinded Trumpies won’t be such a threat to the constitution and a President can commute the sentence for those that repent.

Blood almost ran deep in the streets.

99% of Trumpies are ignorant old men who watch Fox News.

1% are Proud Boys.

The Proud Boys is an exclusively male North American far-right neo-fascist militant organization that promotes and engages in political violence.[1][10][11] The group's leaders have been convicted of violently opposing the US government, including the constitutionally prescribed transfer of presidential power.[12] It has been called a street gang[13][14] and was designated as a terrorist group in Canada[15][16] and New Zealand.[9] The Proud Boys are known for their opposition to left-wing and progressivegroups and for their support for former U.S. President Donald Trump.[1][11]

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You seem to forget that APPEALS are in the works and judgements and SENTENCES will be OVERTURNED!!

And Wikipedia is NO SOURCE, ****, but a "hand written, anyone can edit and write it" DUMP of **** and lies!! You should learn that SIMPLE FACT, ****.
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Beekeeper » 01 Sep 2023, 10:49 am » wrote: You seem to forget that APPEALS are in the works and judgements and SENTENCES will be OVERTURNED!!

And Wikipedia is NO SOURCE, ****, but a "hand written, anyone can edit and write it" DUMP of **** and lies!! You should learn that SIMPLE FACT, ****.
You seem to believe appeals will go in Trump’s favor?

Thats some high level cultist ****, Culty. 
 
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Pastafarian » 01 Sep 2023, 10:53 am » wrote: You seem to believe appeals will go in Trump’s favor?

Thats some high level cultist ****, Culty.
There's NO DOUBT that appeals will go in favor of ALL the PERSECUTED defendants. Seeing how it was ALL POLITICAL PERSECUTION and only to make a STATEMENT that "we won't tolerate anyone going against our agenda" PERSECUTIONS!!

What's so funny KNEEGROW, is that when WE TAKE CONTROL AND DO THE SAME THINGS, you will be **** YOURSELF to condemn it!!

 
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nefarious101 » 01 Sep 2023, 8:27 am » wrote: This place is just a lot of people screaming at each other because each one thinks that only they have the answers

The only real sport here is determining which of these morons yells the loudest when you poke them with the "reality stick"
Truthat...
 
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show a picture to a chain of command? Bet it is guilt like a pyramid with one person at the top, 2 below them, 4 below them, 8 below the 7 added arrived before the 7 were conceived as they became existing.

16 prior to the 8, 32 prior to 16.Law of averages there is a point the numbers level off and reduce back into the original arrivals.

There is no such thing as missing links to compounding results present. Just the binary code of continuation did or didn't exist before, currently here as past ends now and total sum left keeps changing forward when specifically here.
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razoo » 01 Sep 2023, 4:38 am » wrote: Why do you support fascism?  What good is it?
I hate Democrats because:
  • I support the 2nd Amendment and gun ownership
  • I support Freedom
  • I support self-reliance, self-determination and individual responsibility
  • I am an advocate for 1st Amendment Rights
  • I believe in the Constitution as a governing instrument
  • I hate the Deep State
  • I hate 95% of all government agencies, and the waste that goes with them.
  • I hate crooks like Joe Biden, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Chuck Schumer, Bernie Sanders, the Kennedys, the Clintons, Al Gore and ever Democrat in Congress
  • If you consider the 2nd Amendment, 1st Amendment, freedom, self reliance, self-determination, individual responsibility and the Constitution "Fascism", then I am an avowed fascist, or whatever other label you would like to give me.
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Pastafarian » 31 Aug 2023, 3:06 pm » wrote: Trump will lose. He has too much baggage and $3.1 billion of foreign baggage.
In light of of a person with presidential back ground who just keeps breaking laws over and above those producing indictments is it possible to consider "bundling" some similar casesin an effort to prevent this apparent criminal not getting prosecuted for each broken law? Wealthy law breakers must be taught money cannot buy criminal behavior. 


Breaking laws over and above those producing indictments is unusual behavior to say the least. Shouldn't this behavior be met with unusual force to prevent such actions in the future? It appears to me that the former president does not give a damn and continues to interfere with prosecution and the investigation anyway possible.


This is not a precedent we want on the books. The former president and his many cohorts in crime and  must be dealt some serious responses from the courts !!!!!
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They are so predictable.....you know how they will react even before they do themselves.


 
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Skans » 01 Sep 2023, 12:27 pm » wrote: I hate Democrats because:
  • I support the 2nd Amendment and gun ownership
  • I support Freedom
  • I support self-reliance, self-determination and individual responsibility
  • I am an advocate for 1st Amendment Rights
  • I believe in the Constitution as a governing instrument
  • I hate the Deep State
  • I hate 95% of all government agencies, and the waste that goes with them.
  • I hate crooks like Joe Biden, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Chuck Schumer, Bernie Sanders, the Kennedys, the Clintons, Al Gore and ever Democrat in Congress
  • If you consider the 2nd Amendment, 1st Amendment, freedom, self reliance, self-determination, individual responsibility and the Constitution "Fascism", then I am an avowed fascist, or whatever other label you would like to give me.
Whine whine whine and blah blah blah !!!!!! You are pushing Fascism behind closed doors just like ALEC ........

Why are you in love with Fascism?
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Nostradamus'omh » 01 Sep 2023, 11:37 am » wrote: .
16 prior to the 8, 32 prior to 16.Law of averages there is a point the numbers level off and reduce back into the original arrivals.

 
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In the grand scheme of things numbers mean nothing but marking time until we die.   Our ancestor have given us thier DNA and that is thier only duty to us and life.  We are on own so to speak when it down to DNA and over population with to much DNA in our population world wife will cause the collapse if mankind.
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I'm a-goin' back out 'fore the rain starts a-fallin'
I'll walk to the depths of the deepest dark forest
Where the people are many and their hands are all empty
Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters
Where their home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison
And the executioner's face is always well-hidden

Where hunger is ugly, where the souls are forgotten
Where black is the colour, where none is the number
And I'll tell it and speak it, and think it and breathe it
And reflect from the mountains, so all souls can see it
And I'll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin'
But I'll know my song well before I start singing
ultraliberals are not happy unless they are obsessing about something.
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Bruce » 01 Sep 2023, 9:05 am » wrote: Why do judges give almost 20 years to the Proud Boys who flew to Washington D C not to protest but to incite others to go inside the Capitol and terrorize Mike Pence into accepting seven false certificates of Trump electors, and stealing an election, and igniting another civil war?

He will do 85% of 17 years.


 
Do you think that Ray Epps should get the same punishment?

he is on tape “inciting others to go inside the capitol”

 
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nefarious101 » 01 Sep 2023, 1:17 pm » wrote: They are so predictable.....you know how they will react even before they do themselves.
Better than they do...
 
 
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Political prisoners will be pardoned.
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MackTheFinger » 01 Sep 2023, 4:41 pm » wrote: .
In the grand scheme of things numbers mean nothing but marking time until we die.   Our ancestor have given us thier DNA and that is thier only duty to us and life.  We are on own so to speak when it down to DNA and over population with to much DNA in our population world wife will cause the collapse if mankind.
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I'm a-goin' back out 'fore the rain starts a-fallin'
I'll walk to the depths of the deepest dark forest
Where the people are many and their hands are all empty
Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters
Where their home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison
And the executioner's face is always well-hidden

Where hunger is ugly, where the souls are forgotten
Where black is the colour, where none is the number
And I'll tell it and speak it, and think it and breathe it
And reflect from the mountains, so all souls can see it
And I'll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin'
But I'll know my song well before I start singing
Grand scheme is avoiding life in real time. What humanity was designed to do by malcontents in charge of defining tomorrows artificially in context over content evolving here now.
Motives, means, methods by rule of law ordering last generation to obey previous 4.

Eternal conflict of interests adapting in space one at a time occupying space as specifically here conceived to decomposed now. Self evident by nature of behavior or natural time displaced. You really are that over confident nobody is smart enough to think inside their own skin as a sole result of their one time ancestral displacement navigating pace mutually here, be by self or within 8 billion others equally adapting to the moment.

things in common since conceived.

I like my common since better than your historical sense of common situation ethics. You are absolutely dishonest and willing to corrupt everyone you come in contact with for your career character role playing contextual soul reciting hyperbole historically so far.

You rather corrupt every addition to the species than correct what your ancestry believed to date.

Doesn't make a tomorrow better than genetics delivers today. What you do isn't my fault but every decision you keep doing over and over expecting better tomorrows next generation gap following what you believe true.

mind over matter created fiction and fantasies as all anyone needs to know forward.
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Neo » 01 Sep 2023, 5:35 pm » wrote: Political prisoners will be pardoned.
Stop making things a political theater of mind debating alternate realities and parallel universe issues. Crimes against ancestries equally occupying time since conceived will keep them locked up. Crimes against humanity sparks martyrdom, divide and conquer ideologies never allowing anyone time to equally comprehend their proportionate sole needs to know mutually evolving spontaneously alive simultaneously here

Perpetual balancing isn't fair, it just provides equal opportunities for each ancestor and generation gap since inception to pull their own weight or become extinct. Genetics sustains eternal separation of numbers present combining chromosomes to never duplicate a reproduction left living forward now to a food chain native to their atmosphere universally present one at a time.
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Bruce » 01 Sep 2023, 9:05 am » wrote: Why do judges give almost 20 years to the Proud Boys who flew to Washington D C not to protest but to incite others to go inside the Capitol and terrorize Mike Pence into accepting seven false certificates of Trump electors, and stealing an election, and igniting another civil war?

He will do 85% of 17 years.

And hopefully in about ten years these Putin loving piece of **** Fox News blinded Trumpies won’t be such a threat to the constitution and a President can commute the sentence for those that repent.

Blood almost ran deep in the streets.

99% of Trumpies are ignorant old men who watch Fox News.

1% are Proud Boys.



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Your ideology gets dumber and dumber the more you openly reject how genetics operates eternal separation of living reproductions occupying time here now.
I at least explain how it happened and keeps happening, nobody else tries and everyone ridicules me for trying what nobody else is willing to do.

Series parallel occupying space specifically existing in separate forms biologically delivered as ancestrally present one at a time is self evidently showing each ancestor the specificity of why, how, where, when, which, whom, they been since conceived as combined DNA of their previous generation gaps living sine their conception.

Series parallel energy flows produce self evident events mutually timed apart creating the history being recorded when it occurs and rationalized to keep "people of chosen character role playing careers cradle to grave, ignoring their means, motives, methods, rule of law ordering last generation arrivals to repeat previous 5 generation gap behaviors expecting better days tomorrow when evolving never exceeds adapting to the moment here individually time dpaart now.

You ever recognize the original you try to disguise 24/7 working the final conflict cradle to grave thinking you outsmarted everyone around you like nobody knew what you navigate personally aware of your own unique time displaced.

Your nurtured after birth behavior has been developed over last 7,000 years since mankind master the art of self deception.
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razoo » 01 Sep 2023, 1:19 pm » wrote: Whine whine whine and blah blah blah !!!!!! You are pushing Fascism behind closed doors just like ALEC ........

Why are you in love with Fascism?
because:
  • I support the 2nd Amendment and gun ownership
  • I support Freedom
  • I support self-reliance, self-determination and individual responsibility
  • I am an advocate for 1st Amendment Rights
  • I believe in the Constitution as a governing instrument
  • I hate the Deep State
  • I hate 95% of all government agencies, and the waste that goes with them.
  • I hate crooks like Joe Biden, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Chuck Schumer, Bernie Sanders, the Kennedys, the Clintons, Al Gore and ever Democrat in Congress
  • If you consider the 2nd Amendment, 1st Amendment, freedom, self reliance, self-determination, individual responsibility and the Constitution "Fascism", then I am an avowed fascist, or whatever other label you would like to give me.
 
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Beekeeper » 01 Sep 2023, 10:49 am » wrote: You seem to forget that APPEALS are in the works and judgements and SENTENCES will be OVERTURNED!!

And Wikipedia is NO SOURCE, ****, but a "hand written, anyone can edit and write it" DUMP of **** and lies!! You should learn that SIMPLE FACT, ****.
Those appeals are going to reach SCOTUS.

The same court that denied all of Trump’s appeals before December 14, 2020 which meant the election was over.

Only 1% of Trump supporters are stone cold evil fascist insurrectionist proud boys that would start killing Jews, Freemasons, and intellectuals in torture chambers.

Why do they hate public education so much?

Fox News only exists in a cocoon of ignorance.

Our side knows if you do the crime, you’ll do the time.

Sing one for the Republicans, Smiley Bates.

https://youtu.be/902AhwyPpLU?si=OxistFwb-jGla3mr
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Bruce » 31 Aug 2023, 1:55 pm » wrote: WASHINGTON — Joe Biggs, a Proud Boys leader convicted of seditious conspiracy who the government says "served as an instigator and leader" during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, was sentenced to 17 years in federal prison on Thursday.
 It is among the longest sentences in Capitol riot cases. The record is the 18-year sentence given to Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, also convicted of seditious conspiracy, after prosecutors sought 25 years in federal prison in his case.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna102597

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Trump is 78.
Elect Trump so that we may have political prisoners freed and pardoned.
 
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