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Majik » 05 Sep 2023, 8:29 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 8:29 am

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So, it's in the best interests of Americans ....huh?

Keeping a geo political rival vulnerable  is always in our best long term interest. 

For this administration to keep giving Zelensky our hard earned tax dollars to keep the war going .......

Considering the money isn't just being given but loaned under similar conditions as the lend lease act implemented during WW2 .
​​​​​​ so Yes!!,
​​​​​​ In The long term it is in our best interest to keep Ukraine in our pocket. 

And it's OK with you that Zelensky has sent half a million Ukrainians to their needless deaths because The MIC wants to enrich itself knowing full well it's a losing cause ....?

Better a half of million Ukrainians die today then a million Americans die twenty years from now fighting in another  Russian instigated proxy war. 

​​The only reason Russia has had any success recently is because Ukrainian leadership went against the advice of American intelligence launching a counter offensive.  They should have dug in and waited on another surge. . 

and while keeping this war going is undermining and destabilizing Europe, North America and the rest of the world .....

North America and Western Europe are not going to be destabilized.
Ukraine was all already destabilized due to the  massive corruption in their government. 

causing massive  food insecurity ....

For who? Turkey? Select parts of Africa and Eastern Europe? If massive food shortages should arise it will be in Ukraine's best interest. 
​​​​ Ukrainian grain exports do not effect us here in the Western hemisphere. 

massive energy insecurity ....

For who ? Germany? Parts of Europe that are dependent on Russian natural gas exports? This could be the kick in the *** Western Europe needs to go completely green. 
Necessity is the mother of all invention.  

And driving global inflation to the point where most citizens are being forced into abject poverty. ....if not already very  very soon.

Inflation was well on the rise well before this war kicked off.  

and all because you have this fear of Russia and refuse to acknowledge it is now a multi-polar world that we can no longer dominate .....

It's not fear. It's  common sense. 
You speak as if the world was better off during the cold war era. When there were two super powers constantly destabilizing different parts of the world pushing two agendas and not just one. 

 
 

THE COUNTER OFFENSIVE
90 days
35,000 dead Ukes and Tranny mercs
100s and 100s of destroyed NATO equipment....

To not even get past the FIRST line of FOUR Russian defense lines.
All they did was take less than 1% of the southern front.
It shows that the NATO commanders no little about real war.
All they know is bombing camels and stealing oil.


 

Mrkelly » 03 Sep 2023, 4:52 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Sep 2023, 4:52 pm

WOW

you need to watch more Tucker

I disagree with him on a lot of things 

but your post shows your ignorance

No one needs more propaganda. The Figplucker is a propagandist. I suppose that it is useful to watch the Figplucker to understand the lies that Putin wants us to believe, so there's that.

Xavier_Onassis » 05 Sep 2023, 1:57 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 1:57 pm

No one needs more propaganda. The Figplucker is a propagandist. I suppose that it is useful to watch the Figplucker to understand the lies that Putin wants us to believe, so there's that.

Both sides have their propagandists 

like Maddow

 which lies did Putin tell about his reason for going into Ukraine?

Xavier_Onassis » 05 Sep 2023, 1:57 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 1:57 pm

Putin owns my brain and soul.

I am Putin's bitch.
 

Agreed
 

LOL