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Tempest62 » 04 Sep 2023, 11:43 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2023, 11:43 am

Yup, the big lie since WW 1. They use nationalism to nurture the stupid and ignorant. They throw in patriotism, the opposite, the cloud up all the foul stench of nationalism to keep the lie alive.

What about....UksepSHunALjizm??  

Sumela » 04 Sep 2023, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2023, 11:46 am

What about....UksepSHunALjizm??

a self-aggrandizing chant with no humility whatsoever.

our founding documents are exceptional, the execution not so much…..and the people generally not so much either.
 
 

Tempest62 » 04 Sep 2023, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2023, 11:49 am

a self-aggrandizing chant with no humility whatsoever. our founding documents are exceptional, the people generally not so much.

WORD Bro!.

No humility and no intellectual empathy...the ability to understand THE OTHER.

Agreed, the idea, the principles, and founding documents were/are amazing.

We were just able to live up to it.  Especially the last 50 yrs.

Sumela » 04 Sep 2023, 11:52 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2023, 11:52 am

WORD Bro!.

No humility and no intellectual empathy...the ability to understand THE OTHER.

Agreed, the idea, the principles, and founding documents were/are amazing.

We were just able to live up to it.  Especially the last 50 yrs.

Yes sir 

Bruce » 03 Sep 2023, 4:25 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Sep 2023, 4:25 pm

Tucker Carlson is a traitor to the nation that gave him birth.

He loves our milk and honey, but he preaches about living on our knees,

He’s not a conservative.

He’s a useful idiot for Putin.

Yer the idiot.   Don't you leftists ever get tired of the same ole lines?     

Majik » 04 Sep 2023, 11:35 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2023, 11:35 am

This is where you are wrong ......
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But I am Not Wrong 
 
The monopoly over rare earth minerals by BRIC countries is primarily due to the United States' lack of domestic mining capabilities. Consequently, if the situation worsens and the demand for these minerals becomes critical, the US will resort to extreme measures such as leveling mountains in Minnesota for extraction purposes. This practice of prioritizing self-sufficiency in resources is not only applicable to rare earth minerals but also resembles the US strategy of keeping oil reserves full and importing more than necessary for demand.

World Resources: Identified cobalt resources of the United States are estimated to be about 1 million tons. Most of these resources are in Minnesota, but other important occurrences are in Alaska, California, Idaho, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Oregon, and Pennsylvania

​​​The Unique Ability Of Projecting Military Strength

The United States is widely recognized as the only country in the world with the capability to project military strength anywhere on the globe within a short notice. In just two or three days, the US can mobilize its forces to any location, setting it apart from other nations in terms of military outreach.

Experience Matters 

It is important to acknowledge that the US has been involved in perpetual wars for the past 70 years, without experiencing any significant breaks. This continuous engagement in warfare has bestowed upon the US an unparalleled level of experience and expertise in conducting military operations. No other country currently possesses the same level of know-how and familiarity with the intricacies of warfare as the US does.

We don't like to babysit 
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However, despite its prowess in projecting military strength and its extensive experience, the US has struggled when it comes to the occupation of countries. The lack of resolve and perseverance back home has hindered the US from committing to long-term efforts required to fundamentally transform the culture of countries like Iraq and Afghanistan. This has been a significant challenge as it necessitates staying in these countries for fifty to a hundred years, a daunting task that the US has yet to accomplish successfully.
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  Proxy Wars  China don't want none 
When comparing China to Taiwan and Ukraine as proxy states, it is evident that China's army remains untested in combat situations. On the contrary, Taiwan, having prepared extensively for a potential invasion for over six decades, demonstrates a clear advantage in terms of readiness. The difference lies in Taiwan's long-standing efforts to fortify itself against an invasion, while China's military remains untried in actual warfare scenarios.

Tanks are Becoming Obsolete 
Furthermore, there have been instances where Russia's outdated armor divisions suffered significant losses when faced with infantry anti-tank weaponry such as the  American javelin and British Nlaw. 

Lesson Learned 
The Russian military refrains from deploying its newer mechanized vehicles due to their perceived futility.
This is primarily because anti-armor systems like the American Javelin or the British NLAW possess a substantial amount of firepower that surpasses the defensive capabilities of armored vehicles. The Javelin missile, for instance, can effectively neutralize tanks as it attacks from above, rendering the target defenseless.

Don't Forget about Tweety Bird 
Additionally, American drones equipped with 100-pound Hellfire missiles have been specifically designed to destroy tanks, further augmenting the US's military advantage.

 
 

Last night I was indirectly accused of plagiarism 

 This is my draft and above is the finished product 
So suck it cp
 Rare earth minerals are only monopolized by the bric countries because we don't mine ours here in the United States. Push come to shove in a few months we will level every mountain in Minnesota. We do the same thing with oil. We keep reserves full and import more then needed for demand.
 You also fail to recognize  the U. S is the only country in the world that can project  military strengths anywhere in the world on short notice.  Two or three days max. 

Keep this in mind the US is the only country that's been In perpetual wars for the past 70 years non stop.No other country on this planet as of now has anywhere near the experience of conducting warfare like the US has. 

We suck at occupying countries because we lack the fortitude back state side to actual  stay the fifty or hundred years needed to fundamentally change the culture of countries Like raq and Afghanistan. 

China has an untested army period. The key  difference between Taiwan and Ukraine  as proxy states is that Taiwan has been prepping for an invasion for sixty some odd years now. 

 We have already seen  Russian's outdated armour divisions get mangled by infantry anti tank weapons  .Russian isn't using their few new mechanized vehicles t because it is pointless . Anti armour systems like the American javelin or the British nlaw pack to much heat for any amount of armour . The fact the javelin missile comes down on top of the man turret makes it undefendable . Don't forget about the  American drones carrying 100 pound hell fire missiles that are designed to destroy tanks
 

jerrab » 04 Sep 2023, 2:53 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2023, 2:53 am

russia would make a better offer. putin has already mentioned putting missiles in mexico.

Russia doesn't have the means to make a better offer . 
Russia did not have the means before Russo- Ukrainian war began.  
Even if Russian did have the means it would be a wasted effort. This is hemisphere belongs to the U. S all others can fook off
 

Hank » 04 Sep 2023, 1:11 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2023, 1:11 pm

Russia doesn't have the means to make a better offer . 
Russia did not have the means before Russo- Ukrainian war began.  
Even if Russian did have the means it would be a wasted effort. This is hemisphere belongs to the U. S all others can fook off

since the US is so insistent on giving weapons to ukraine I would not count on it. zelinksi brought this on when he declared war with russia to get  crimea back in the summer before the invasion and insisting on joining nato

Russia is winning bigly...

NATO..."""we are running out of ammo"""....HAHA

Hank » 04 Sep 2023, 1:11 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2023, 1:11 pm

Russia doesn't have the means to make a better offer . 
Russia did not have the means before Russo- Ukrainian war began.  
Even if Russian did have the means it would be a wasted effort. This is hemisphere belongs to the U. S all others can fook off

before the invasion---

https://theowp.org/ukraine-declares-all ... om-russia/

Ukraine Declares All Options Possible, Even War, To Retake Crimea From Russia

• Isaac Heaphy
• April 12, 2021

-------------------------------------------------United States President Biden, who has himself been peripherally involved with Ukraine in the Obama administration (which has spawned various speculations over the years), released a statement late February condemning Russia’s involvement in Ukraine and claimed that “Crimea is Ukraine.” In line with the previous administrations, the Pentagon announced soon afterward that nearly three-hundred-million dollars worth of military aid would be sent to Ukraine, if they meet certain conditions, to support their defence “in line with NATO principles and standards.”Russia, which has become increasingly jittery as NATO expands towards its borders, naturally sees the recent provocations to threaten its close influence in the region as such and is reacting to be ready if Ukraine and others attack their interests. For instance, the World Socialist Web Site reported on these events that the reason for taking Crimea was to keep Russia’s warm water port available for use (as the governments before the chaos leased it to them). Additionally, Vijay Prashad of Globetrotter wrote that many people in eastern Ukraine speak Russian and may consider themselves culturally close too.

 

Russia has taken:

-75,000 sq miles

-Has 4 million new citizens

-Has killed/maimed 500,000 Nazis and US Tranny Mercs, LOL

-Taken Ukes most fertile farmland and industrial areas like Mariupol.

-AND the Uke counter offensive was a complete failure - 35,000 dead in 3 mos.

-25% of Uke population has fled to either Russia or EuroTrash

All of this EQUALS......         GO PUTIN!!!!
 

jerrab » 04 Sep 2023, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2023, 1:47 pm

before the invasion---

https://theowp.org/ukraine-declares-all ... om-russia/

Ukraine Declares All Options Possible, Even War, To Retake Crimea From Russia

• Isaac Heaphy
• April 12, 2021

-------------------------------------------------United States President Biden, who has himself been peripherally involved with Ukraine in the Obama administration (which has spawned various speculations over the years), released a statement late February condemning Russia’s involvement in Ukraine and claimed that “Crimea is Ukraine.” In line with the previous administrations, the Pentagon announced soon afterward that nearly three-hundred-million dollars worth of military aid would be sent to Ukraine, if they meet certain conditions, to support their defence “in line with NATO principles and standards.”Russia, which has become increasingly jittery as NATO expands towards its borders, naturally sees the recent provocations to threaten its close influence in the region as such and is reacting to be ready if Ukraine and others attack their interests. For instance, the World Socialist Web Site reported on these events that the reason for taking Crimea was to keep Russia’s warm water port available for use (as the governments before the chaos leased it to them). Additionally, Vijay Prashad of Globetrotter wrote that many people in eastern Ukraine speak Russian and may consider themselves culturally close too.

HAHAHAHA

Putin *** raped *** Bammy in 2014.....

Filthy *** Bammy thought he could take Crimea...

Putin tied that *** up and *** raped him for 5 days

           
 
 

HAHA

The southern front which Russia controls 99.9% of.

It took *** 35,000 dead men and 90 days to retake

this TINY TINY area  ....

First thing they did was they all got tranny surgeries in service of WASH TRANNY DC-VILLE  


 

jerrab » 04 Sep 2023, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2023, 1:47 pm

before the invasion---

https://theowp.org/ukraine-declares-all ... om-russia/

Ukraine Declares All Options Possible, Even War, To Retake Crimea From Russia

• Isaac Heaphy
• April 12, 2021

-------------------------------------------------United States President Biden, who has himself been peripherally involved with Ukraine in the Obama administration (which has spawned various speculations over the years), released a statement late February condemning Russia’s involvement in Ukraine and claimed that “Crimea is Ukraine.” In line with the previous administrations, the Pentagon announced soon afterward that nearly three-hundred-million dollars worth of military aid would be sent to Ukraine, if they meet certain conditions, to support their defence “in line with NATO principles and standards.”Russia, which has become increasingly jittery as NATO expands towards its borders, naturally sees the recent provocations to threaten its close influence in the region as such and is reacting to be ready if Ukraine and others attack their interests. For instance, the World Socialist Web Site reported on these events that the reason for taking Crimea was to keep Russia’s warm water port available for use (as the governments before the chaos leased it to them). Additionally, Vijay Prashad of Globetrotter wrote that many people in eastern Ukraine speak Russian and may consider themselves culturally close too.

americans think ukraine was  just  minding it's business when russia invaded.  nope, ukraine threatened russia before in april 2021

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On 24 February 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine in an escalation of the Russo-Ukrainian War which began in 2014. The invasion has killed tens of thousands on both sides. Russian forces have been responsible for mass civilian casualties and for torturing captured Ukrainian soldiers. Wikipedia
 

NATO is a war mongering gang of ***.

God's judgement is falling on ***

Bammy's ****** was wet over putting a NATO base in Crimea in 2014.

Then Putin said....""hey *** boi!....on your knees BITCH and suck me dry!""

Bammy quickly obeyed

   

 

The Unique Ability Of Projecting Military Strength

The United States is widely recognized as the only country in the world with the capability to project military strength anywhere on the globe within a short notice. In just two or three days, the US can mobilize its forces to any location, setting it apart from other nations in terms of military outreach.

— Ahem…..

Experience Matters

It is important to acknowledge that the US has been involved in perpetual wars for the past 70 years, without experiencing any significant breaks. This continuous engagement in warfare has bestowed upon the US an unparalleled level of experience and expertise in conducting military operations. No other country currently possesses the same level of know-how and familiarity with the intricacies of warfare as the US does.

— Ahem….irrelevant when WWIII breaks out on a second front when China surrounds Taiwan to starve it off. N Korea will unleash nukes on S Korea and Japan, we will also be fighting China in Ukraine vs Russian tactical nukes after asshole Biden regime and it’s deep state place US boots on the ground with several battalions.

Tempest62 » 04 Sep 2023, 2:43 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2023, 2:43 pm

The Unique Ability Of Projecting Military Strength

The United States is widely recognized as the only country in the world with the capability to project military strength anywhere on the globe within a short notice. In just two or three days, the US can mobilize its forces to any location, setting it apart from other nations in terms of military outreach.

— Ahem…..

Experience Matters

It is important to acknowledge that the US has been involved in perpetual wars for the past 70 years, without experiencing any significant breaks. This continuous engagement in warfare has bestowed upon the US an unparalleled level of experience and expertise in conducting military operations. No other country currently possesses the same level of know-how and familiarity with the intricacies of warfare as the US does.

— Ahem….irrelevant when WWIII breaks out on a second front when China surrounds Taiwan to starve it off. N Korea will unleash nukes on S Korea and Japan, we will also be fighting China in Ukraine vs Russian tactical nukes after asshole Biden regime and it’s deep state place US boots on the ground with several battalions.

yes....

and Russia is the only country that has carrier killing hypersonic missiles. Yikes
 

Tempest62 » 04 Sep 2023, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

04 Sep 2023, 11:23 am

Too many don’t understand the unelected civ/mil across the agencies and their State Dept aka collectively called the deep state calling ALL the shots. 

They listen to all the fake news pounding their brains incessantly and that absolutely includes Fox News, whose watchers think they’re “informed”. LOL

There is no left and right. Only up and down. Reagan’s words.

the war could be over a long time but zelinsky  refuses to sign a peace treaty unless he gets crimea back-- all this crap and possible ww3 over crimea? smh