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Remember "Cash for Clunkers"...or how about "no question asked loans"



america's better at it than anyone...we owe $96,000 for each american living...more than the combined GDP of China, Japan, Germany and United Kingdom.

We spend almost 2 billion a day on interest   between january and june of this year we spent over $652 billion on the debt...that $1.3 trillion a year spent on debt.

Since 2020...$1.2 trillion spent is unexplained...missing

The average joe is finally paying off their debt right now based on government numbers for the first time since the 2008 crisis.

Small business loans are drying up....interest rates as high as 9%
small business bankruptcies are spiking

2010 we had at the height of US Corporate Bankruptcies at 827 as of june this year we have already had over 400

Companies in Consumer Discretionary experienced 48 bankruptcies
Industrials 45
Healthcare 39
financials 26
energy 14
consumer staples 14
information tech 11
communications 7
materials 5
real estate 4
utilities 3

March 2020 they started raising interest rate....rates now are still on an 18 month lag on rates raised since...they have raised it 17 times

Speculative debt is rapidly rising....both US and worldwide

 

Human nature does not change.

I’ve been taught that since I was in my cradle and now as a gray haired old man, I’m completely convinced a thousand years from now a few Americans will be worrying about whatever the national debt is then.

Go tour the ruins of Rome.

Or visit the Tower of Big Ben.

Take a gondola ride on the canals of Venice.

Then stand at the Brandenburg Gate where Ronald Reagan stood.

What can kill a nation for a long time before they recover again is fascism.

Where enough of the population worships a Hitler or Trump figure until they wind up scrounging for scraps from the rubble.

As Reagan said, America is the shining city on the hill and the last, best hope for mankind.

Vote for Joe Biden like all Christian Civilization in the world depends on it, because the alternative is Trump.
 

people need to realize that we didn't get here just because of on side doing caused it....both sides got us here...otherwise we wouldn't have this going happening.

we have become a nation of finger pointers....it's always easier to say..."they did it"

Do the dim-0-craps or gop deserve the blame? Actually, the only political party in the US is the corporate party. The dim-0-craps are just its left and the gop is just its right arm.

The downfall of the US started when corporations were mistakenly ruled to have the same rights as people and money was deemed free speech. Both arms of the corporate party are taking the US down the same destructive, divisive, debt riddle path, albeit with different rhetoric. Trump is the antithesis of both arms and that is why they fear and persecute him.

Trump is the only answer!!! There is no one else that is not in the pockets of big corporations. If Trump is not re-re-elected in 2024 we will continue to follow the same destructive, downward path that the magic negro put the US on (remember his "fundamental transformation of America" declaration?" and clueless, perverted, corrupt puppet braindead biden is actually the magic negro 3.0.

Christian world depends on voting for Biden!? That's about the stupidest remark I've ever heard.

Democrats are trying to crash the Christian world with everything they do.

Z09 » 05 Sep 2023, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 9:06 am

Correct...

We need term limits and a balanced budget...

people are too busy taking the "Bait" from the media on both sides....everyone is smarter than everyone else....and each of them demands recognition for being the smartest person in the room
 

nefarious101 » 05 Sep 2023, 8:49 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 8:49 am

people need to realize that we didn't get here just because of on side doing caused it....both sides got us here...otherwise we wouldn't have this going happening.

we have become a nation of finger pointers....it's always easier to say..."they did it"

Exactly. The people have a responsibility to change this. However, there is no leadership among the people that most of the country will rally behind. We are all divided and lost. We the people definitely have the power, but we have no idea how to implement it. 

Z09 » 05 Sep 2023, 8:41 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 8:41 am

I would never vote for Joe Biden...

Can you tell us why you support him?

I support Biden bcuz Trump is a lunatic. 

 

Z09 » 05 Sep 2023, 8:41 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 8:41 am

I would never vote for Joe Biden...

Can you tell us why you support him?

He supports the rule of law

If he loses, he’ll step down 

All Christian Civilization all around the globe is depending on us to remain their beacon of hope 

Pastafarian » 05 Sep 2023, 9:33 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 9:33 am

I support Biden bcuz Trump is a lunatic.

Doesn't matter how perverted, how corrupt, how demented braindead biden is, you will only be voting for his handlers, eh?  Braindead biden can only say what he is told to say, go where he is told to go and he can't even do either of those without **** up.  You like their high gas and food prices?  You like being invaded at the Southern Border by illegals, criminals, terrorist and drugs?  You like out of control criminals that face no consequences when they are caught?  You like the results of queers, *** and trannys running/ruining this country?  You support the banana republic style tyrannical persecution of the political opponents of the dim-0-craps?
Why do you support the destruction of the US?  Because you are a ****, liberal idiot!!! 
 
 

Bruce » 05 Sep 2023, 8:37 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 8:37 am

Human nature does not change.

I’ve been taught that since I was in my cradle and now as a gray haired old man, I’m completely convinced a thousand years from now a few Americans will be worrying about whatever the national debt is then.

What separates nature from natural position occupying time being alive now? Ancestral point of displacement in an ever changing population left evolving forward one at a time each is never reproduced twice since the total sum of their fertilized cell arrived.

this thread is about where the blame rests on each, I just explained it in this post alone and it is as specific here as it was when this species arrived in this atmosphere ancestries were never same ancestor twice.

Your facts are misleading on purpose and by design of intellectual minds within the species historical past and currently events here

Vegas » 05 Sep 2023, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 9:27 am

Exactly. The people have a responsibility to change this. However, there is no leadership among the people that most of the country will rally behind. We are all divided and lost. We the people definitely have the power, but we have no idea how to implement it.

People are easily led.....the most rigidly opinioned ones are the one's most led.

They are taught to yell, "I'm smarter than you!" and then this.....

nefarious101 » 05 Sep 2023, 8:24 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 8:24 am

Remember "Cash for Clunkers"...or how about "no question asked loans"

america's better at it than anyone...we owe $96,000 for each american living...more than the combined GDP of China, Japan, Germany and United Kingdom.

We spend almost 2 billion a day on interest   between january and june of this year we spent over $652 billion on the debt...that $1.3 trillion a year spent on debt.

Since 2020...$1.2 trillion spent is unexplained...missing

The average joe is finally paying off their debt right now based on government numbers for the first time since the 2008 crisis.

Small business loans are drying up....interest rates as high as 9%
small business bankruptcies are spiking

2010 we had at the height of US Corporate Bankruptcies at 827 as of june this year we have already had over 400

Companies in Consumer Discretionary experienced 48 bankruptcies
Industrials 45
Healthcare 39
financials 26
energy 14
consumer staples 14
information tech 11
communications 7
materials 5
real estate 4
utilities 3

March 2020 they started raising interest rate....rates now are still on an 18 month lag on rates raised since...they have raised it 17 times

Speculative debt is rapidly rising....both US and worldwide

Ourselves!

If you are pointing fingers, you more than likely are sitting in a **** personal financial position.

Hey, you have to blame someone!
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Fuelman » 05 Sep 2023, 11:18 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 11:18 am

Ourselves!

If you are pointing fingers, you more than likely are sitting in a **** personal financial position.

Hey, you have to blame someone!
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you are to blame for your aids

Fuelman » 05 Sep 2023, 11:18 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 11:18 am

Ourselves!

If you are pointing fingers, you more than likely are sitting in a **** personal financial position.

Hey, you have to blame someone!
​​
 

When everyone is agrees nobody knows, who knew?

nefarious101 » 05 Sep 2023, 8:49 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 8:49 am

people need to realize that we didn't get here just because of on side doing caused it....both sides got us here...otherwise we wouldn't have this going happening.

we have become a nation of finger pointers....it's always easier to say..."they did it"

We need to understand that if Mike Pence alone, had joined the January 6 plot we’d have lost it all.

That is so huge nothing else matters.

Lock away Trump and his entire gang for life, or else the next tyrant might win 

Buffalo » 05 Sep 2023, 10:31 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 10:31 am

Doesn't matter how perverted, how corrupt, how demented braindead biden is, you will only be voting for his handlers, eh?  Braindead biden can only say what he is told to say, go where he is told to go and he can't even do either of those without **** up.  You like their high gas and food prices?  You like being invaded at the Southern Border by illegals, criminals, terrorist and drugs?  You like out of control criminals that face no consequences when they are caught?  You like the results of queers, *** and trannys running/ruining this country?  You support the banana republic style tyrannical persecution of the political opponents of the dim-0-craps?
Why do you support the destruction of the US?  Because you are a ****, liberal idiot!!!

Biden’s alleged corruption ain’t got nothing on Trump’s very traceable corruption. 

Georgia election obstruction is well documented. 

as is his role in the Capitol Riots and his role in the fake electors scam. 

Trump’s $3.1 bribe from foreign countries will be investigated once Trump loses 2024 if he’s even running. Lots can happen between now and November 2024. These trials are bad news for Trump, make no mistake about it. 

Z09 » 05 Sep 2023, 10:47 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 10:47 am

Things were better under that lunatic..

7% interest rates...
Real nice huh?

Cities were burning under your lunatic leader. 

Jobs never came back, not the jobs he promised anyway. 

only 50 miles of wall built. Mexico never paid for any of it. 

Fentanyl was more rampant under trump bcuz he was seizing less at the border. 

 

I blame the public. Yes, politicians enact policies but it is the public that chooses to engage in a loan or not.

Fuelman » 05 Sep 2023, 11:18 am » wrote: ↑

05 Sep 2023, 11:18 am

Ourselves!

If you are pointing fingers, you more than likely are sitting in a **** personal financial position.

Hey, you have to blame someone!
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DING DING DING DING....we have a winner!


Sorry....I stole all the prize money and bought controlling interest in a 20 oz. bottle of 7UP!....****' Bidenomics!