And, that is why I don't have an EV and won't be getting one any time soon. When they are at least as good as gas powered vehicles and cost the same or less, I'll buy one. Sort of like I did with flat-screen TV's a long time ago. I let the tech-suckers get beaten and abused before I even consider new technology.ConsRule » 11 Sep 2023, 8:34 am » wrote: ↑ An EV might be useful in town...for short trips. The really bad part is Charlotte to Memphis is only 629 mile...easy one day drive that they scheduled over 4 days.
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/ev-road-tri ... 23954.html
When the US Secretary of Energy and her team embarked on a road trip to promote electric vehicles, they ran into a predictable yet frustrating obstacle: a lack of electric vehicle chargers.
Indeed, there are only about three electric vehicle charging ports for every 10,000 people in the United States, Insider reported in April.
The scarcity of chargers was such an issue for Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm and her team that the police got involved at one point, NPR reported.
The caravan of electric vehicles heading from Charlotte to Memphis over the course of four days hit a snag in Grovestown, Georgia. The group was planning a quick charge when they realized there wouldn't be enough electric vehicle chargers to go around since one was broken and the others were in use, NPR reported.
So an employee from the Department of Energy tried to save one of the spots using a gas-powered car.
It was a sweltering day and the move didn't go over well with a family that was also waiting for a charging spot. The situation escalated to the point that the family, driving with a baby in their car, called the police, who didn't have the authority to act because blocking an EV charging spot with a gas-power car isn't illegal in Georgia, NPR reported.
While Granholm and her team worked to smooth things over, ultimately ceding a spot to the family and relegating some of their own vehicles to slower charging ports, the incident drew attention to the desperate need for improved EV infrastructure.
"It's just par for the course," a bystander driving an electric BMW told NPR. "They'll get it together at some point."
Word, and it is not even trolling
I heard the car companies are losing massive money on each one!Skans » 11 Sep 2023, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑ And, that is why I don't have an EV and won't be getting one any time soon. When they are at least as good as gas powered vehicles and cost the same or less, I'll buy one. Sort of like I did with flat-screen TV's a long time ago. I let the tech-suckers get beaten and abused before I even consider new technology.
I didn't mean to single you out, you just happened to start an EV thread. It was a general statement about all the angst over EV's and the price of one being way over the capability of most households hence the negative view points. The price of one upscale EV is more than the median 401k balance by far.ConsRule » 11 Sep 2023, 10:16 am » wrote: ↑ Trust me...I can easily afford to purchase/own one. Something you can bet everything you own on...if someone GAVE me a top of the line EV, I would trade it in for something else before the end of the day.
Tesla is not losing money, but it is barely making any money. It makes only $3.50/share and the price of the stock is $250. Let's say you have $1,000,000 to invest in a business. You buy a company with your $1,000,000 that makes cleaning solutions. It pays you $300/week as a return on your investment. Now, you tell me, would you spend a million dollars just to make $300/week? Well, that's what people do when they buy Tesla.sootedupCyndi » 11 Sep 2023, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑ I heard the car companies are losing massive money on each one!
ok. If that's true? Why are they making that many then? Oh I know. Gubmint pay-o-la.
And who's really paying for that? Tax payers.
Anyone fixing the grid? or even thinking about THAT?
sootedupCyndi » 11 Sep 2023, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑ I heard the car companies are losing massive money on each one!
ok. If that's true? Why are they making that many then? Oh I know. Gubmint pay-o-la.
And who's really paying for that? Tax payers.
Anyone fixing the grid? or even thinking about THAT?
well- I look at things on my level. Which is real life. and very tiny? But i can add!Skans » 11 Sep 2023, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑ Tesla is not losing money, but it is barely making any money. It makes only $3.50/share and the price of the stock is $250. Let's say you have $1,000,000 to invest in a business. You buy a company with your $1,000,000 that makes cleaning solutions. It pays you $300/week as a return on your investment. Now, you tell me, would you spend a million dollars just to make $300/week? Well, that's what people do when they buy Tesla.
Skans » 11 Sep 2023, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑ Tesla is not losing money, but it is barely making any money. It makes only $3.50/share and the price of the stock is $250. Let's say you have $1,000,000 to invest in a business. You buy a company with your $1,000,000 that makes cleaning solutions. It pays you $300/week as a return on your investment. Now, you tell me, would you spend a million dollars just to make $300/week? Well, that's what people do when they buy Tesla.
First thing to know is the EV requires only a third (or less) BTUS (energy) to operate.ConsRule » 11 Sep 2023, 9:41 am » wrote: ↑ You didn't answer the question related to the source of electricity. And...just an FYI...it's really difficult to charge your EV at home during off peak load times when you attempting a road trip in it.
GHETTOBLASTER » 11 Sep 2023, 12:22 pm » wrote: ↑ Authoritarian / Totalitarian Governments have always looked for ways to limit [and monitor] the public's ability to travel.
Guess what...it's happening to us right now and the Goyim Masses couldn't care less.
You still haven't answered the question. Why are you such a coward?Bruce » 11 Sep 2023, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑ First thing to know is the EV requires only a third (or less) BTUS (energy) to operate.
Second thing is that two cents a kilowatt hour for wind energy will keep getting cheaper.
Third thing only the most severe Trumptards don’t already own a lithium drill and the Trumptard just loves it, threw away his corded drill the day he got the lithium drill.
So, Elon Musk owns the largest money machine on earth because next year he’ll sell two million Teslas and make addicts out of every buyer.
When Mr Constitutional MAGA Trumptard gets his first electric ride that outruns a Hellcat and he plugs it in overnight and he no longer buys any gasoline he’ll never go back to gasoline.
Since when did Trumpies worry about the electric grid?
If he does worry, soon every Tesla will operate his secure bunker bug out in the event of a race war.
https://news.energysage.com/tesla-power ... -how-long/
Really? Link?Bruce » 11 Sep 2023, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑ First thing to know is the EV requires only a third (or less) BTUS (energy) to operate.
Second thing is that two cents a kilowatt hour for wind energy will keep getting cheaper.
Third thing only the most severe Trumptards don’t already own a lithium drill and the Trumptard just loves it, threw away his corded drill the day he got the lithium drill.
So, Elon Musk owns the largest money machine on earth because next year he’ll sell two million Teslas and make addicts out of every buyer.
When Mr Constitutional MAGA Trumptard gets his first electric ride that outruns a Hellcat and he plugs it in overnight and he no longer buys any gasoline he’ll never go back to gasoline.
Since when did Trumpies worry about the electric grid?
If he does worry, soon every Tesla will operate his secure bunker bug out in the event of a race war.
https://news.energysage.com/tesla-power ... -how-long/
Cyndi, Elon Musk is several times richer than the original Henry Ford.sootedupCyndi » 11 Sep 2023, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑ I heard the car companies are losing massive money on each one!
ok. If that's true? Why are they making that many then? Oh I know. Gubmint pay-o-la.
And who's really paying for that? Tax payers.
Anyone fixing the grid? or even thinking about THAT?
You don't see me driving an EV, do you? If I had a bunch of stop and go deliveries with total mileage per day of less than 150, I would buy a used EV, though.sootedupCyndi » 11 Sep 2023, 12:08 pm » wrote: ↑ well- I look at things on my level. Which is real life. and very tiny? But i can add!
I own my gas car! Why would i purchase an EV for a payment of 500 a month??? I could buy a ton of gas for an extra 20 bucks a week. When the price is high. Do you see the INSANITY Skans?
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The thing that many people don't already understand is that when I need real drilling power with a tool that's built to last I reach for my 120 volt AC powered MILWAUKEE HOLE HAWG. [it's in other words a "corded" drill motor]Bruce » 11 Sep 2023, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑
Third thing only the most severe Trumptards don’t already own a lithium drill and the Trumptard just loves it, threw away his corded drill the day he got the lithium drill.
Here is the trick, silly.Bruce » 11 Sep 2023, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑ First thing to know is the EV requires only a third (or less) BTUS (energy) to operate.
Second thing is that two cents a kilowatt hour for wind energy will keep getting cheaper.
Third thing only the most severe Trumptards don’t already own a lithium drill and the Trumptard just loves it, threw away his corded drill the day he got the lithium drill.
So, Elon Musk owns the largest money machine on earth because next year he’ll sell two million Teslas and make addicts out of every buyer.
When Mr Constitutional MAGA Trumptard gets his first electric ride that outruns a Hellcat and he plugs it in overnight and he no longer buys any gasoline he’ll never go back to gasoline.
Since when did Trumpies worry about the electric grid?
If he does worry, soon every Tesla will operate his secure bunker bug out in the event of a race war.
https://news.energysage.com/tesla-power ... -how-long/
really- I got rides in one from my doc... Not impressive at all!Bruce » 11 Sep 2023, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑ Cyndi, Elon Musk is several times richer than the original Henry Ford.
Musk will addict two million Detroit customers next year to no gasoline cars.
Tesla motors seriously last a million miles.
If you buy a ten year old used Tesla your neighbors will think you bought a brand new Tesla. The style hardly changes.
Detroit (and soon Tokyo and Stuttgart) lose money perfecting their EVs because if they don’t in ten years Musk will sell all the new cars, every one.
Bruce » 11 Sep 2023, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑ Cyndi, Elon Musk is several times richer than the original Henry Ford.
Musk will addict two million Detroit customers next year to no gasoline cars.
Tesla motors seriously last a million miles.
If you buy a ten year old used Tesla your neighbors will think you bought a brand new Tesla. The style hardly changes.
Detroit (and soon Tokyo and Stuttgart) lose money perfecting their EVs because if they don’t in ten years Musk will sell all the new cars, every one.
Tesla Has a Goal of 20 Million Vehicles Per YearTesla made 35,000 cars in 2014. It has ambitious plans to get to 20 million vehicles by the year-end of 2030. That is a 571 times increase in vehicle production in 17 years. That is an unreal feat if Tesla achieves that. Even at a 2 million vehicle per year run rate, if Tesla gets there this year, that is still a 57 times increase in vehicle production in 10 years.Giga Nevada was being built in 2014 and now it is fully functional. Tesla also had a 500,000 vehicle goal by 2020 and that happened with the Model 3 and Model Y. Many were skeptical that Tesla could never achieve that result - because it had never been done before. It's a 14 times increase in 6 years.Applying the same logic today, to get to 20 million vehicles by 2030, you have an 11 times increase in 7 years, with 1.8 million vehicles this year, which I think is conservative. Based on Tesla's growth in the past, I don't see any reason Tesla won't be able to make this ambitious goal. Tesla can go 25% slower and reach this 20 million vehicle per year goal.Some may say that 20 million vehicles is too many. Toyota at their peak made about 10 million. Nobody has done this and therefore, many are skeptical that Tesla can do this.You may also be interested in:ConsRule » 11 Sep 2023, 12:34 pm » wrote: ↑ Really? Link?
Tesla's own sales projections have them reaching 492,000 units by the end of 2027.
You really should stop making **** up.