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What is it?  Examples of how it works?

in the most academic of terms... the fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives in economics is importance of externalities. It is not just the bleeding heart. The idea is that imperfection (poverty, inequality) impact things beyond just the person but society as a whole.

Sumela » 11 Sep 2023, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 2:58 pm

What is it?  Examples of how it works?

I'm pretty sure Donald Trump would be considered a "neo-liberal"... much to the chagrin of the progressive leftards.

From Wikipedia...

Neoliberalism is contemporarily used to refer to market-oriented reform policies such as "eliminating price controls, deregulating capital markets, lowering trade barriers" and reducing, especially through privatization and austerity, state influence in the economy.
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impartialobserver » 11 Sep 2023, 3:01 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 3:01 pm

in the most academic of terms... the fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives in economics is importance of externalities. It is not just the bleeding heart. The idea is that imperfection (poverty, inequality) impact things beyond just the person but society as a whole.

Who's idea is that, snipper?

You gonna change the nature of humans after it's been perfected for thousands of years?
 

RebelGator » 11 Sep 2023, 3:12 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 3:12 pm

Who's idea is that, snipper?

You gonna change the nature of humans after it's been perfected for thousands of years?

Don't shoot the messenger. But I know that you do not have the intellect to separate explanation and support. I can explain that 4 + 4 = 8 but according to you.. that must mean that I have something about 4 or some other nonsense.

RedheadedStranger » 11 Sep 2023, 3:06 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 3:06 pm

I'm pretty sure Donald Trump would be considered a "neo-liberal"... much to the chagrin of the progressive leftards.

From Wikipedia...

Neoliberalism is contemporarily used to refer to market-oriented reform policies such as "eliminating price controls, deregulating capital markets, lowering trade barriers" and reducing, especially through privatization and austerity, state influence in the economy.
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That appears to give a massive advantage to the elites 
to exploit the economy.  Why would we trust the elites
so much to act appropriately?  We talk here everyday
how the globalists cannot be trusted.  Plus Id be inclined
to believe a Wikipedia definition is maybe a bit too innocent.
 

impartialobserver » 11 Sep 2023, 3:13 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 3:13 pm

Don't shoot the messenger. But I know that you do not have the intellect to separate explanation and support. I can explain that 4 + 4 = 8 but according to you.. that must mean that I have something about 4 or some other nonsense.

You're a strange fellow, on one hand you espouse the liberal doctrine, but fall short of a full commitment when the rubber meets the road. Don't talk libtard to me unless you're gonna go all out, like Dylan. When you get a boob job, you'll make a believer out of me.

RebelGator » 11 Sep 2023, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 3:20 pm

You're a strange fellow, on one hand you espouse the liberal doctrine, but fall short of a full commitment when the rubber meets the road. Don't talk libtard to me unless you're gonna go all out, like Dylan. When you get a boob job, you'll make a believer out of me.

And you... well i am amazed that you figure out how to get out of bed. On forums, you portray yourself as a simpleton with an IQ of maybe 20. It is not a Conservative thing.. Skans, ROG62, Spartan.. all can express themselves clearly and recognize nuance. 

impartialobserver » 11 Sep 2023, 3:01 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 3:01 pm

in the most academic of terms... the fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives in economics is importance of externalities. It is not just the bleeding heart. The idea is that imperfection (poverty, inequality) impact things beyond just the person but society as a whole.

LOL. 

Neoliberalism has little to do with the left/right paradigm of politics.

Its an economic term.  You just sort of showed you are not very educated  
 

Sumela » 11 Sep 2023, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 3:23 pm

LOL. 

Neoliberalism has little to do with the left/right paradigm of politics.

Its an economic term.  You just sort of showed you are not very educated

Again.. I gave you the academic version. Take it or leave it. 

impartialobserver » 11 Sep 2023, 3:22 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 3:22 pm

And you... well i am amazed that you figure out how to get out of bed. On forums, you portray yourself as a simpleton with an IQ of maybe 20. It is not a Conservative thing.. Skans, ROG62, Spartan.. all can express themselves clearly and recognize nuance.

You're all over the place, rover......the only constant is your condescending **** and the inflated value of your self worth.

impartialobserver » 11 Sep 2023, 3:24 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 3:24 pm

Again.. I gave you the academic version. Take it or leave it.

Redhead gave the actual academic version.  Although its
the flowery Wiki version that serves the elites.

You **** your pants and went down a ******* rabbit
trail about the differences between left and right.  
Go read a book, you retard.

Neoliberalism is an economic term and almost all
in WASH DC, both left and right, are neoliberals.
For example...bank bailouts...the wealthy almost always get bailed out.
 
 

Here an example of what neoliberalism has done
in the West in the last 60 years.
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Income inequality surges as richest group gets more
than 90 per cent of the gains, Australia Institute finds --- ABC News

Sumela » 11 Sep 2023, 3:19 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 3:19 pm

That appears to give a massive advantage to the elites 
to exploit the economy.  Why would we trust the elites
so much to act appropriately?  We talk here everyday
how the globalists cannot be trusted.  Plus Id be inclined
to believe a Wikipedia definition is maybe a bit too innocent.

and biased!?

Countries run by neoliberalism policies are to the
top of wealth distribution inequality
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Chart: Where Financial Inequality Is Rampant | Statista


 
 

Sumela » 11 Sep 2023, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 2:58 pm

What is it?  Examples of how it works?

NeoLiberal Economics? I can define it...it means we're broke.   lol

roadkill » 11 Sep 2023, 3:46 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 3:46 pm

NeoLiberal Economics? I can define it...it means we're broke.   lol

  Broke and in debt. Debt is crucial to the transfer of wealth to the top.

And in foreign policy they keep poor countries with resources....poor by
keeping them in massive debt and paying off their leaders/elites.  This
ensures the resources can be exploited.

 
 
 

Sumela » 11 Sep 2023, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 2:58 pm

What is it?  Examples of how it works?

 Biden's war on our gasoline based economy has made it more difficult than ever in our history to be able to OWN LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL a nice home on a decent sized lot.
No doubt they want  tax breaks that force everyone else pay for their bloated property taxes, inflated home values, maintenance costs that hopeless helpless Libtards are sure to incurr, etc.
These self indulged "Progressives" pay more for entertainment, recreation and other indulges than every other generation in our history.
They can not differentiate between WANTS and NEEDS...in their minds everything they want is a need.
They also realize that they will never be able to repay their totally worthless LIBTARD 101 PSEUDO SCIENCE DEGREE educations and so they must socialize that in order to force everyone else to pay for their stupidity.
The WAR ON OUR GASOLINE BASED ECONOMY and the billions of dollars they gleefully support sending to Ukraine..that they were duped into voting for...?
Well they are screaming for a quick and easy fix for that too.

 
 
 

Sumela » 11 Sep 2023, 3:51 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 3:51 pm

  Broke and in debt. Debt is crucial to the transfer of wealth to the top.

And in foreign policy they keep poor countries with resources....poor by
keeping them in massive debt and paying off their leaders/elites.  This
ensures the resources can be exploited.

"Debt is crucial to the transfer of wealth to the top."


Yep...inflation is the way the government steals from the people.  

Sumela » 11 Sep 2023, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2023, 2:58 pm

What is it?  Examples of how it works?

Ignore the NeoLiberal adjectives and get to the root noun open for debate. What is the express reason economics exists in any social setting serving humanity's promises of better tomorrows each rotation of the planet if everyone complies with power of suggesting life isn't being eternally separated genetically populating the species currently alive one at a time arriving in specific series parallel space.

Instincts navigate by simple right and wrong ways to balance as equally timed apart birth to death living happen conceived to decomposed inception to extinction of ancestries left evolving forward now.

5 generation gaps, within 5 primary species. I did a thread on this 2 days ago. Random specific acts produce specific random results always changing current total sum results changing forms shaped here now. That applies to inorganic as well as ancestral combinations whether by periodic elements or chromosomes combined with each conception changing population forward one at a time as I say all the time everyone is blindly protecting tomorrow's possibilities than correcting last generations mistakes keep getting added to last generation arriving.

Exponential whole is equal to all its existential parts present. So series parallel time defined by linear expectations tomorrow changes everything, but that isn't true because nothing individually here stays same details again.

Someone on this board likes to call me a contrarian, but alternate realities and parallel universes ideologies are contradictory to how evolving works now. When everyone recites possibilities, nobody is explaining actual evolving.