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Sumela » 24 Sep 2023, 3:00 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 3:00 pm

 

Is this poking fun at libs or cons? This one is a toughy...  
Left and right working together.

Mrkelly » 24 Sep 2023, 7:47 am » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 7:47 am

I don’t know how it works for sure

but I was wondering if congress voted no on the funding of an executive order

and the president vetoed that decision 

can they overturn his veto by a 2/3 vote in both houses?

from what little I looked, it seems that they could

The senate cannot vote on funding - that is exclusively the prerogative of the house.

That said, most executive orders don't rely on funding. Take that ***'s perversion order, making "transgenders" (a thing that cannot be defined and therefore cannot be said by adults to exist) protected under title 9. There is no way that the house could possibly defund that order. It could only defund title 9, which would **** girls' sports in public schools. That said, the ***'s pervert order did the same thing. Either way, the misogynist left is out to get women - out to **** on them as hard as it can. I suspect it's mommy issues at the bottom of it all. This much is sure: The left hates women and is working to destroy them.
 

Cannonpointer » 24 Sep 2023, 3:12 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 3:12 pm

The senate cannot vote on funding - that is exclusively the prerogative of the house.

That said, most executive orders don't rely on funding. Take that ***'s perversion order, making "transgenders" (a thing that cannot be defined and therefore cannot be said by adults to exist) protected under title 9. There is no way that the house could possibly defund that order. It could only defund title 9, which would **** girls' sports in public schools. That said, the ***'s pervert order did the same thing. Either way, the misogynist left is out to get women - out to **** on them as hard as it can. I suspect it's mommy issues at the bottom of it all. This much is sure: The left hates women and is working to destroy them.

the senate would be voting to overturn a veto … was my point

i know who controls the purse … as the kids say

but wouldn’t building the wall require funding?

seems tRump tried to use military money to fund his wall, as an end around 

to be honest, I really don’t care that much about it 

I just like **** with the locals 

but I did see that congress can undo executive orders 

seems like tRump and Obama could have taken the steps to get their pet projects done

the wall and Medicare for all 

they had the majority in both houses 

But obviously not

see avatar 

 
 

Mrkelly » 24 Sep 2023, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 11:04 am

The Framers of the Constitution gave the President the power to veto acts of Congress to prevent the legislative branch from becoming too powerful. This is an illustration of the separation of powers integral to the U.S. Constitution.

Congress has the power to overturn an executive order by passing legislation that invalidates it, and can also refuse to provide funding necessary to carry out certain policy measures contained with the order or legitimize policy mechanisms.

The President may veto bills Congress passes, but Congress may also override a veto by a two-thirds vote in both the Senate and the House of Representatives.

Yeah, so?? That doesn't support YOUR CLAIM that if Congress refuses to pass a bill funding something, that the President can veto that inaction.

Nice C&P you have there.

Mrkelly » 24 Sep 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 4:35 pm

the senate would be voting to overturn a veto … was my point

i know who controls the purse … as the kids say

but wouldn’t building the wall require funding?

seems tRump tried to use military money to fund his wall, as an end around 

to be honest, I really don’t care that much about it 

I just like **** with the locals 

Oh, that.

Yeah - he tried to use military money for it, and yeah, they found a way to block it - proving he was impotent.

He had four years and couldn't build a wall - even with the public SENDING him money.

Mrkelly » 24 Sep 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 4:35 pm

but I did see that congress can undo executive orders 

seems like tRump and Obama could have taken the steps to get their pet projects done

the wall and Medicare for all 

they had the majority in both houses 

But obviously not

see avatar

Obama could have given us medicare for all. His bosses said no.

sootedupCyndi » 24 Sep 2023, 12:54 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 12:54 pm

If you think you are a match for Cannon pointer?  I feel very sorry for you.   
BOO - HOO.  
you can't even handle me without crying.

Shut the **** up you two bit **** whore! Go babble your stupid in the alley!

murdock » 24 Sep 2023, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 12:47 pm

Imbeciles believe all they hear.

didn’t look it up did you

tRump used to be a dRumpf   

Beekeeper » 24 Sep 2023, 4:38 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 4:38 pm

Yeah, so?? That doesn't support YOUR CLAIM that if Congress refuses to pass a bill funding something, that the President can veto that inaction.

Nice C&P you have there.

so there is nothing a president can do if congress blocks one of his executive orders?

Mrkelly » 24 Sep 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 4:35 pm

but wouldn’t building the wall require funding?

Why? I bet dollars to donuts, this country has enough people that would harvest the raw materials, process them into finished products, volunteer to construct the wall just to seal it off.

But leaderships won't allow it. Power, wealth, fame are symbolic ranks to mutually evolving results. Hope, faith, charity defend rejecting life in plain sight when mutually evolving in series parallel time displaced ancestrally here.

China built a wall thousands of years ago. Egypt and Mayans built pyramid's to leave a scar on the earth's surface just to prove they existed before extinction of their society. Their ancestors still occupy space as evolved forward since.

Social pride before the downfall of their society ignoring the universal constant. What expands in size, form, numbers erodes or decomposes back to original form, periodic elements that expand into either inorganic or ancestral results in series parallel relationships of past, present, next generation.

Rule of 72 results from simple compounding details never duplicated again once achieved shapes formed here now. Self evident kinetics.

Mrkelly » 24 Sep 2023, 5:40 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 5:40 pm

so there is nothing a president can do if congress blocks one of his executive orders?

The way Congress blocks one of his EO's is to TAKE THEM TO COURT if they are outside the authority of the Constitution, ****!!

You really are dumber than a boxcar full of rocks.

Beekeeper » 25 Sep 2023, 6:04 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 6:04 am

The way Congress blocks one of his EO's is to TAKE THEM TO COURT if they are outside the authority of the Constitution, ****!!

You really are dumber than a boxcar full of rocks.

So what does this mean?

Congress has the power to overturn an executive order by passing legislation that invalidates it, and can also refuse to provide funding necessary to carry out certain policy measures contained with the order or legitimize policy mechanisms.
 

Mrkelly » 25 Sep 2023, 7:02 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 7:02 am

So what does this mean?

Congress has the power to overturn an executive order by passing legislation that invalidates it, and can also refuse to provide funding necessary to carry out certain policy measures contained with the order or legitimize policy mechanisms.

That's not what you said, ****, in your first **** claim.

Beekeeper » 25 Sep 2023, 7:04 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 7:04 am

That's not what you said, ****, in your first **** claim.

it’s what I have said all along 

you said

”*******!! Trump has NO CAPABILITY to veto ANYTHING Congress refuses to do!! Are you that **** DENSE???”

Mrkelly » 25 Sep 2023, 7:02 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 7:02 am

So what does this mean?

Congress has the power to overturn an executive order by passing legislation that invalidates it, and can also refuse to provide funding necessary to carry out certain policy measures contained with the order or legitimize policy mechanisms.
 

Title of this thread separates liberals from conservatives but liberals dictate possibilities and conservatives protect ideas ancestrally forward each generation gap adding their own replacements forward.

Heart, mind, body, soul are figures of speech symbolizing behaviors of 16 great great grandparents, 8 great grandparents, 4 grandparents, 2 parenting the arrival of each great great grandchild that links their existence forward each child added only adapting at the same time those 30 lifetimes evolved to current situation left, mutually adapting in space as eternally separated now as each great great grandchild born forward here in this atmosphere.

Someone got space time continuum all **** up and every typecast people won't correct it because traditional beliefs is all they ever navigated living by for hundreds of generations so far.

Everyone chases tomorrow and nobody rescues their species from compounding mistakes today because rule of law eliminates instinctive honesty all the time.

Mrkelly » 25 Sep 2023, 7:11 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 7:11 am

it’s what I have said all along 

you said

”*******!! Trump has NO CAPABILITY to veto ANYTHING Congress refuses to do!! Are you that **** DENSE???”

And that statement is 100% CORRECT!!

How does any President veto any non-bills that doesn't come before him for a signature or veto?? Because you are saying that the President CAN when there is nothing there to veto!!

So who is the ******* AGAIN???
 

Beekeeper » 25 Sep 2023, 7:37 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 7:37 am

And that statement is 100% CORRECT!!

How does any President veto any non-bills that doesn't come before him for a signature or veto?? Because you are saying that the President CAN when there is nothing there to veto!!

So who is the ******* AGAIN???

The President who issued an Executive Order can revoke it. Likewise, an incumbent President has the power to revoke an Executive Order issued by a predecessor. Congress also has the power to overturn an Executive Order by passing legislation that invalidates it. (The President, of course, may veto such legislation, in which case Congress may override the veto by a two-thirds majority). 
 

Mrkelly » 25 Sep 2023, 8:02 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 8:02 am

The President who issued an Executive Order can revoke it. Likewise, an incumbent President has the power to revoke an Executive Order issued by a predecessor. Congress also has the power to overturn an Executive Order by passing legislation that invalidates it. (The President, of course, may veto such legislation, in which case Congress may override the veto by a two-thirds majority).

Exactly, but THATS NOT WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING IN YOUR PRIOR ****!!

So run along and take your *** kicking like a whimpered little boy that you are.

Beekeeper » 25 Sep 2023, 8:28 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 8:28 am

Exactly, but THATS NOT WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING IN YOUR PRIOR ****!!

So run along and take your *** kicking like a whimpered little boy that you are.

it’s what I have been saying

 

Mrkelly » 24 Sep 2023, 10:14 am » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2023, 10:14 am

That’s what I said Cletus 

I was talking about tRump doing an executive order to build his wall

then congress refused to fund it

and tRump vetoed their decision 

Congress has the power to overturn an executive order by passing legislation that invalidates it, and can also refuse to provide funding necessary to carry out certain policy measures contained with the order or legitimize policy mechanisms.

No ****, this is what you said. SEE ABOVE!!

So how did Trump "veto" any refusal to fund his wall??There was NO BILL he could veto, *******!!

Beekeeper » 25 Sep 2023, 10:16 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 10:16 am

No ****, this is what you said. SEE ABOVE!!

So how did Trump "veto" any refusal to fund his wall??There was NO BILL he could veto, *******!!

I was talking in the hypothetical