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GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 1:24 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 1:24 pm

Any President in Trump's shoes would have implemented a "Warp Speed" type Presidential decree...regardless of his inner knowledge about some sort of diabolical plan to sabotage his presidency 

Yeah, no.

That is not something you have any right to assume. Removing legal requirements for an industry with a 71% failure rate even when those requirements are assiduously observed was reckless as a mother ****.

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 1:24 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 1:24 pm

I don't know if Trump took the shot or not and neither do you.

Yes, I do. I am hetero. I know for a fact he did not lab rat.

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 1:24 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 1:24 pm

Trump very well could have promoted the vaccine in good faith regardless of  your suspicions

The good faith of an idiot is worse than the bad faith of a monster. The road to hell is paved with retard spittle.

Do you GENUINELY expect me to absolve him based on the he is retarded defense? The man is a registered stable genius.

Cannonpointer » 25 Sep 2023, 1:31 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 1:31 pm

Removing legal requirements for an industry with a 71% failure rate

.

What...?

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 1:35 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 1:35 pm

What...?

71% of ALL patent medicines approved by the fda this century have been subsequently removed from the market or black-boxed due to unforeseen health hazards which only became apparent when the medicines were in wide usage.

That is why it was reckless as HELL for trump to initiate operation warp speed - and everyone knew it. 

Cannonpointer » 25 Sep 2023, 1:41 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 1:41 pm

71% of ALL patent medicines approved by the fda this century have been subsequently removed from the market or black-boxed due to unforeseen health hazards which only became apparent when the medicines were in wide usage.

That is why it was reckless as HELL for trump to initiate operation warp speed - and everyone knew it.

Don't you think it's because most if not all drugs are imperfect when initially approved for use ...but after THE LUXURY OF YEARS WORTH OF FURTHER STUDY have exposed unacceptable flaws that weren't obvious sooner..then the drugs naturally get **** canned...?

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 2:17 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 2:17 pm

Don't you think it's because most if not all drugs are imperfect when initially approved for use ...but after THE LUXURY OF YEARS WORTH OF FURTHER STUDY have exposed unacceptable flaws that weren't obvious sooner..then the drugs naturally get **** canned...?

Yeah. That's the point. Even with proper study and proper TIME devoted to that study, pharma is a risky **** business that kills a lot of americans. 

Removing the study and the time is a level of hubris and recklessness appropriate to a **** teenager - not to a grown man. When the reckless *** THEN goes on to pretend to be a lab rat, it makes his hubris even more despicable. 
 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 25 Sep 2023, 2:32 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 2:32 pm

Yeah. That's the point. Even with proper study and proper TIME devote to that study, pharma is a risky **** business that kills a lot of americans. 

Removing the study and the time is a level of hubris and recklessness appropriate to a **** teenager - not to a grown man. When the reckless *** THEN goes on to pretend to be a lab rat, it makes his hubris even more despicable.

Trump would have commited political suicide if he allowed the FDA to take the usual amount of time to test the drug.before approval.
So  Biden [[[JWO]]] wins either way.
This press release  is most likely a synopsis of the report that Team Trump based their comments on in August 2021...FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine | FDA

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 6:20 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 6:20 pm

Trump would have commited political suicide if he allowed the FDA to take the usual amount of time to test the drug.before approval.

No. That is not true.

That is just something you made up.

In truth, the public does not expect the president to create medicines. Or waive the laws around the making of medicines.

You can google it - I'm not making it up.

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 6:20 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 6:20 pm

So  Biden [[[JWO]]] wins either way.

Biden didn't win jack ****. He was hiding in his **** basement.

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 6:20 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 6:20 pm

This press release  is most likely a synopsis of the report that Team Trump based their comments on in August 2021...

AGAIN, back to the thread topic. Trump did his lying in 2020. Trump endangered his voters in 2020. Trump dishonestly pretended to play lab rat in 2020. Trump committed crimes against humanity in 2020.

Trump lied. People died.
 

Cannonpointer » 25 Sep 2023, 6:26 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 6:26 pm

No. That is not true.

That is just something you made up.

 

The [[[JWO]]] would have crucified Trump day and night on all TV and most radio channels for not taking the initiative to SAVE MORE LIVES with a fast tracked, executive order driven vaccine.
I can't believe you disagree with that.

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 6:44 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 6:44 pm

The [[[JWO]]] would have crucified Trump day and night on all TV and most radio channels for not taking the initiative to SAVE MORE LIVES with a fast tracked, executive order driven vaccine.
I can't believe you disagree with that.

I can't believe you are *** pulling that.

When obama was in orifice, the jwo tried this same exact scam by politicizing ebola. The repukes played their assigned role, whipping up terror and pointing at the white house - screeching that obama was not pertekting murca from a ***-borne illness that would kick the **** out of us so bad that it might end gravity. Then there was zika, and the bleak prospect of a generation of pinheaded mongoloids.There were a couple of others, too.

But no one was blaming him for how long it takes to make a vaccine. It's just silly for you to suggest that unless trump did something ENTIRELY UNPRECEDENTED, there is reason to believe he'd have gotten jumped for it. 

There isn't.

There WASN'T. There was no example for them to point to and say, "Why isn't trump behaving recklessly and in a manner without precedent, like all the other presidents didn't?"

It's just senseless. Why the **** would they point fingers at him for not doing what had never been done? 
 
 

Pin headed MONGOLOIDS!          

 

 

Cannonpointer » 25 Sep 2023, 6:51 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 6:51 pm

I can't believe you are *** pulling that.

When obama was in orifice, the jwo tried this same exact scam by politicizing ebola. The repukes played their assigned role, whipping up terror and pointing at the white house - screeching that obama was not pertekting murca from a ***-borne illness that would kick the **** out of us so bad that it might end gravity. Then there was zika, and the bleak prospect of a generation of pinheaded mongoloids.There were a couple of others, too.

But no one was blaming him for how long it takes to make a vaccine. It's just silly for you to suggest that unless trump did something ENTIRELY UNPRECEDENTED, there is reason to believe he'd have gotten jumped for it. 

There isn't.

There WASN'T. There was no example for them to point to and say, "Why isn't trump behaving recklessly and in a manner without precedent, like all the other presidents didn't?"

It's just senseless. Why the **** would they point fingers at him for not doing what had never been done?

nice apples and oranges comparison.
First of all Ebola was only transmittable via direct contact with bodily fluids..not mysteriously on which direction the wind blows invisible virus particles..so nobody in the USA need to worry about a massive and indefensible  spread 
Obama actually went out of his way to bring Ebola to USA shores and never got criticized by the JWO controlled MSM for it.
Obama was never held to the same standard as Trump by the [[[JWO controlled MSM]]] and it's silly for you to use anything Obama did as a comparison.
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 9:11 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 9:11 pm

nice apples and oranges comparison.
First of all Ebola was only transmittable via direct contact with bodily fluids..not mysteriously on which direction the wind blows invisible virus particles..so nobody in the USA need to worry about a massive and indefensible  spread 
Obama actually went out of his way to bring Ebola to USA shores and never got criticized by the JWO controlled MSM for it.
Obama was never held to the same standard as Trump by the [[[JWO controlled MSM]]] and it's silly for you to use anything Obama did as a comparison.

Well mother ****, millard filmore never had a goddamned pandemic. The fruit basket from which I have to select in order to answer your preposterous silliness is rather bereft. 

The fact remains that you are *** PULLING the claim that trump "had" to act like a reckless 18 year old glory-seeking ***, poisoning his countrymen, or someone might have said mean **** things about him on the telly. 

Tell me this. Did they NOT say mean **** things, since he went ahead and poisoned us? How did his decision to treat his voters as lab rats affect the outcome of how preciously the media treated him? Would you say their treatment of his response to covid was:

Extremely favorable
Favorable
Neutral
Not favorable
Disfavorable

Please - pick one, so that I can get a **** purchase on your argument that Trump needed to **** down our necks in order to avoid some bad **** press - a horrible outcome for him, considering how **** hard he worked to ingratiate himself with the media.
 
 Trump lied, people died. 
 

Cannonpointer » 25 Sep 2023, 9:25 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 9:25 pm

Well mother ****, millard filmore never had a goddamned pandemic. The fruit basket from which I have to select in order to answer your preposterous silliness is rather bereft. 

The fact remains that you are *** PULLING the claim that trump "had" to act like a reckless 18 year old glory-seeking ***, poisoning his countrymen, or someone might have said mean **** things about him on the telly. 

Tell me this. Did they NOT say mean **** things, since he went ahead and poisoned us? How did his decision to treat his voters as lab rats affect the outcome of how preciously the media treated him? Would you say their treatment of his response to covid was:

Extremely favorable
Favorable
Neutral
Not favorable
Disfavorable

Please - pick one, so that I can get a **** purchase on your argument that Trump needed to **** down our necks in order to avoid some bad **** press - a horrible outcome for him, considering how **** hard he worked to ingratiate himself with the media.
 
 Trump lied, people died.

The main criticism about Trump from the MSM was how he tried to take more credit for his role in the vaccine's developement than what credit was actually due.
The MSM from day one somehow knew how terrible CV19 was going to be..even before the first 1000 Americans had died.
The terror campaign narrative  was non stop, around the clock. I'm a big radio listener and no less than 50% of the message traffic was pure CV19 related doom.
A massive propaganda assault like I've never seen. with new case count and death count numbers coming in every few hours.
Of course the clock was ticking on the vaccine developement..that's what much of the talk was about every day.
If Trump was going to boost his image and get out of the JWO's Dog House...[and maybe even do some good] then of course he had good reason to expeditie the development of the vaccine. 
All of this assumes that Trump was oblivious to any sort of a master plan to use the vaccine as a part of a "tool of mass genocide" and was only acting in good faith and also to boost his image as a responsible leader.
So back to the OP and Trump's declaration of "safe and effective" coincides with the CDC report..so unless you can prove that Trump is part of the [[[JWO]]] and knows better ...he didn't lie about this.

 
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 10:49 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 10:49 pm

The main criticism about Trump from the MSM was how he tried to take more credit for his role in the vaccine's developement than what credit was actually due.

No it wasn't. The cock suckers painted him as an anti-vaxer. It's the only way they could chump the left into taking the trump poison.

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 10:49 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 10:49 pm

The MSM from day one somehow knew how terrible CV19 was going to be..even before the first 1000 Americans had died.
The terror campaign narrative  was non stop, around the clock. I'm a big radio listener and no less than 50% of the message traffic was pure CV19 related doom.

Ebola was scripted the same way, because Ebola was the INTENDED virus of doom. Cov19 was the backup, after the government of Sierra Leone **** up the whole game by publishing the cure for Ebola - megadose of colloidal silver - on the front page of their newspaper of record, after which the CDC packed up their goon squads and went home in defeat to plan Cov19.

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 10:49 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 10:49 pm

A massive propaganda assault like I've never seen. with new case count and death count numbers coming in every few hours.
Of course the clock was ticking on the vaccine developement..that's what much of the talk was about every day.
If Trump was going to boost his image and get out of the JWO's Dog House...[and maybe even do some good] then of course he had good reason to expeditie the development of the vaccine.

No good was done. I've given you the numbers. He behaved like a reckless glory hound *** wipe. He got PLAYED. By fauci, no less.

He lied, Americans died.

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 10:49 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 10:49 pm

All of this assumes that Trump was oblivious to any sort of a master plan to use the vaccine as a part of a "tool of mass genocide" and was only acting in good faith and also to boost his image as a responsible leader.
So back to the OP and Trump's declaration of "safe and effective" coincides with the CDC report..so unless you can prove that Trump is part of the [[[JWO]]] and knows better ...he didn't lie about this.

He said safe and effective at the time the EUA rolled out. You don't get to change the dates to rescue your hero.

He got up there and he took a saline shot, lying through his teeth to chump americans into being guinea pigs.
 
And as far as the jwo goes, trump's mouth was/IS as magnetically attracted to jew cock and thirsty for jew semen as the mouth of any president before or since. Israel did not want on his watch, let me assure you. Here is The Times of Israel to tell you what a friend he was:

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/100-tim ... ed-israel/
 

Cannonpointer » 25 Sep 2023, 11:25 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 11:25 pm

No it wasn't. The cock suckers painted him as an anti-vaxer.

Do me a favor and back that "key point" of yours up with some proof bc when I do a search this is what I get from the most [[[JWO]]] news source of all...Donald Trump has a theory to explain the anti-vaxxers | CNN Politics
 
Now...do you SERIOUSLY think that Trump was only made aware of the CDC's "safe and effective" report [and with no progress reports either :rolleyes:  ]  the same day that you and I were shown the report...?
get real.

Cannonpointer » 23 Sep 2023, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

23 Sep 2023, 9:51 am

You are simply wrong. When any public official makes a declaration about a patent medicine, the terms have LEGAL definitions, and using those terms is a statement under color of law. Patent medicines are adjudged "safe and effective" by the FDA - not by chatter box politicians committing felonies. And this happens only AFTER a number of broadly based, double blind studies have been completed and the data tabulated and reported to the FDA. Then and only then are the legal terms "safe and effective" applied to patent medicines by any government agent or agency. 

It is a crime against humanity under treaties to which we are signatory to compel, coerce, extort or trick someone into participating in a medical experiment. Declaring experimental medicines safe and effective is intended to defraud the public.

LOL.  No.  That’s not lying, but rather incompetence, arrogance, manipulation, naivete, bad judgment, etc.
 Use fewer words.  A simple definition of lying: conveying something as true when you know it’s false.   

Cannonpointer » 25 Sep 2023, 1:13 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 1:13 am

Trump said the vax was safe and effective. That was false. You AGREE that was false. It was not just one lie - it was two lies.

 

It's only a lie if he believed it was not safe and effective and said otherwise. 

GHETTOBLASTER » 25 Sep 2023, 5:30 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 5:30 am

Whatever that number is...calling it either safe or not is a judgement call...not an absolute.

Agreed.  It's as simple as this.  Adjectives are judgements.  They are opinions, not facts.

Fact: Jim's IQ is 150.
Opinion: Jim is smart.

Fact: Lincoln is a city in Nebraska.
Opinion: New York City is more exciting than Lincoln Nebraska.

Fact: NASCAR drivers exceed speeds of 190+ MPH.
Opinion: NASCAR is unsafe.
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 26 Sep 2023, 1:01 am » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 1:01 am

Do me a favor and back that "key point" of yours up with some proof bc when I do a search this is what I get from the most [[[JWO]]] news source of all...Donald Trump has a theory to explain the anti-vaxxers | CNN Politics
 
Now...do you SERIOUSLY think that Trump was only made aware of the CDC's "safe and effective" report [and with no progress reports either   ]  the same day that you and I were shown the report...?
get real.

1. Glad you trust your search engine. I'm sure it's quite objective and accurate.
2. The reason the left made it a virtue signal to vax is that they believed trump was against it. Your NAMBLA sources only gay that fact - they do not negate it.
3. Trump lied BEFORE late 2021. He lied when he was still in office.

That's 16, by the way.

16 is the number of times I have told you that and you have pretended not to hear me because you have no answer that will save your orange dreamsycle.

LincolnNebraska » 26 Sep 2023, 8:04 am » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2023, 8:04 am

LOL.  No.  That’s not lying, but rather incompetence, arrogance, manipulation, naivete, bad judgment, etc.

Fun fact.

Under the law, the standard is, "Knew or ought to have known."

Every criminal on earth can lie and say I did not know - and no jury on earth can read minds.

So the legal standard to determine someone is responsible for lying is, "Knew or ought to have known."

Before a government agent lies that a vaccine has been put through the rigorous testing required under the law before using the term "safe and effective," that agent has a duty to be sure it is true.

ESPECIALLY when the government agent in question created a program called "Operation Warp Speed" in order to bypass the rigorous testing required under the law before using the term "safe and effective."

See how that works? In man world, you cannot AUTHOR the program that skipped the testing, and then say, "I had no idea they had skipped the testing."


Trump lied. People died. You may go now. Leave the door ajar.