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Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 8:37 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 8:37 am

What witnesses? 

Mr Kelly and Vegas for example, they say they saw it too..

I never said a missile hit the Pentagon or Building 7

Can you show us my quote?

Should take about 2 minutes for you to find ..

The search isn't working so it would take a lot longer and you probably already changed your post so I'm not going to bother..

But you are missing the point, as usual, not that it matters, it's still fun to point it out, even if you don't get it..


 
 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 8:45 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 8:45 am

Kinda figured you couldn't answer...

So..
Where's all this other land we stole?

You dont trust 

Trumpy enough.


 

Neo » 29 Sep 2023, 8:40 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 8:40 am

I liked when Rambo went to Afghanistan and joined them in killing Russians.

I like when Reagan helped Bin Laden

kill 3,000 NYC trannies.    That was a blast  
 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 9:14 am

They're lying.
And you are too. 

So the witnesses that saw you say a missile from area51 hit Building7 are lying because they can't show a post of you saying that.. but the witnesses that say a plane hit the Pentagon are telling the truth even though there aren't any pictures of it (or plane wreckage) ..


 
 
 

Who benefitted THE MOST....?

Dick Cheney....

""we need a new PEARL HARBOR moment""

Holy ****

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 9:14 am

They're lying.
And you are too.

A missile never hit the Pentagon or Building 7

But keep searching for something I never said ..

I don’t have to prove it

I saw it with my own eyes 
 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 5:30 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 5:30 am

On the morning of 911 Norad and flight controllers from all over the country were montering the skies.

Pure mouth ****. NORAD was standing down because of a fake exercise called Operation Northern Vigilance. You should read Richard Clark's book Against All Enemies.

On top of THAT fake ****, they were running simulations of an aircraft hitting a tower. This was not a coincidence.

They always do drills simulating the false flag when they do false flags. That way, if the beans spill, they have the cover that it was an accident: a drill gone horribly wrong.

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 5:30 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 5:30 am

There's simply no way a a missile was sent from 1000 miles away and no one witnessed it.
That's what he claimed.

Link?

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 5:30 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 5:30 am

And when asked what happened the the plane he stated it might have been flown to Area 51,

I saw that flippant response, and was at a loss as to how anyone could miss the sarcasm - even in a print format.

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 5:30 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 5:30 am

The plane flew out to Indianapolis and turned around.
It hit the Pentagon.

Which plane?

The ghost plane, that was able to crash into the most secure building in this hemisphere without being photographed? And then hit a building without leaving wreckage? That plane?

Got any other preposterous ghost stories, fruitcake? Because, IF NOT, let me tell you the one about a crazy man with a hook on his arm who escaped from an asylum...
 
 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 6:01 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 6:01 am

I should also point out about 100 witnesses saw a low flying American Airlines plane a few seconds before the crash...

What were their names?

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 6:01 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 6:01 am

The plane even hit a light tower that fell onto a taxi.

Who was driving the taxi?

Can you explain how this happened without being photographed, just yards from the most secure building in the Americas?

Take your time, gather your wits, open a thesaurus in another tab, and explain that to us.

Pease incorporate the words "shenanigans" and "balderdash."

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 6:01 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 6:01 am

Moments later a huge explosion and everyone on that plane was never heard from again.

Same thing happened to the victims of the Hook-handed Asylum Escapee.

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 6:01 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 6:01 am

Norad and ATC never reported a plane flying across country and landing in Nevada at Area 51.

It's friggin dumb.

Of course it's dumb - most straw men are. They're INTENDED to be dumb - the better for easy flailing.

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 6:01 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 6:01 am

​​​​​​I don't think a missile was sent from a submarine or military base either.
That's rather hilarious too.

So is your ghost plane balderdash.
 
 

Not a single video....

Thats impossible

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm

1. Father Stephen McGraw (Catholic Priest) who clearly witnessed Flight 77 (along with every single other eyewitness)

Didn't he also see a virgin mother rise from a lake and cry blood?
And two months before being the priest who saw the ghost plane, wasn't he the lawyer who worked for the DOJ?

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm

2. C-130 Pilot Steve O'Brien (Minnesota Air Guard) who saw the Hijacked Flight 77 fill the view of his cockpit window.

The fact that he saw a plane does not mean it was hijacked, or that it put on its ghost armor and crashed into the pentagon, fruitcake.

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm

3. Fire / Rescue / and Recovery personnel who recovered Plane debris and human remains.

If you mouth **** it, it HAS to be true.

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm

4. Forensic Anthropologists & medical staff at Dover Air Base (Delaware).

The saw it crash into the Pentagon?

Could they also see alaska from their porch?

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm

5. DC Cab driver Lloyd England, who apparently smashed his taxis with a bat to make it appear the damage came from a downed Street Light        (which had also been planted at the scene).

No, no. THAT part is legitimate. A plane hit a light pole right next to the Pentagon and evaded being photographed.

No, really.

Seriously - I'm not joking.

If anyone is interested in the level of integrity of this fruitcake's claims, here: http://truthandshadows.com/2019/03/20/l ... le-part-1/

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm

6. American Airlines ( who invented a Flight which never took off, and a list of passengers & crew who never existed).

I refuse to believe wall street would EVER work with the pentagon. That's just insane.

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm

7. Army Soldiers from Fort Belvoir who aided and surveyed the interior of the crash site and told of seeing human remains and pieces of the Aircraft. (the Soldiers were some of the first to enter inside the building where the Plane made impact).

The existence of human remains at a bomb site - while eerie and spooky and inexplicable - does not place a jet there. What WOULD place a jet there is one of the thousands of photos or dozens of videos that would have been available to the press five minutes after it happened.

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm

8. The Paramedic who discovered the Plane's Flight Recorder.

On Columbo, the guy who finds and delivers the murder weapon did the killing. Every time. Thank you for flushing out a new suspect.

The paramedic did it in the pantry with the telephone.

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm

So...Are all these people lying?

Are all these people people?

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 12:59 pm

Need more names?

 
 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 1:13 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 1:13 pm

Yes there is..

But you don't see a clear shot of the plane..

All these witnesses lying?
About 100
Names and documented

Suppose you tell us what happened to the plane if it didn't crash into the Pentagon?

Landed at area 51 and humanly euthanized. 
 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 1:02 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boAfbXhvSUo

Stephen McGraw is a former US JUSTICE DEPARTMENT attorney

what a coincidence 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 1:16 pm

Since we disagree on this....

Can you maybe tell us what happened to the plane if it didn't crash into the Pentagon?

Hell no. 

Unlike you, I don't have access to the truth of the matter. I just look at what doesn't add up about the LIES we are fed.

I am going to tell you something, and I want you to study on it until you see the sense of it. 

Pointing out obvious flaws in a narrative in no manner, shape, or form obligates the skeptic to invent an entirely new narrative which accounts for every variable that the old narrative failed to account for. 

A fellow literally has the right to say, "I do not believe your story, and here is why" without insisting, "I know in precise detail exactly what happened, when and how - who did it and why."

Just study on that argument, until you FEEL the truth of it in your bones.
 
If you STILL insist I owe answers, here is mine (provisionally): The paramedic did it in the pantry with the telephone.
 
 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 1:07 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 1:07 pm

I posted a video of the taxi driver and his name

Not in the post that I responded to, you didn't.

But I DID post a link to an investigation into your "taxi driver."

And I also noted that your "priest" had been a DOJ lawyer two months previously.
 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 1:06 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q638TUoHJU0

What about this ?

https://youtu.be/AVEhuQXGjus?si=I7dN9Ci7mwwnsVEU
 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 1:27 pm

Plenty of people aren't convinced about the Pentagon attack...

And the first and most obvious question is always the same and it never gets answered.

What happened to the plane if it didn't crash into the Pentagon?

No, no - you simply could not be more wrong about the first and most obvious question.

This is the mistake you insist on making - even AFTER I schooled you on the skeptic's responsibility. You CONTINUE in your ignorance, not even having taken the time to study on the argument that I TOLD YOU you needed to study on.

The first and most obvious question is not to the skeptic, who is merely questioning a shaky narrative. It is to the person asserting the affirmative. You really do need to take a logic course at your local JuCo, because your abysmal ignorance is landing you in hot water over and over, and you seem beyond correction.

The first and most obvious question is, "Where the **** are the photos of a JET LINER hitting the most secure building in the hemisphere"?

If you notice, THAT question ^ is to the person making an affirmative claim - not to the person asking questions of the claimant. You want to attack the QUESTIONER, for daring to QUESTION - and you demand answers that the QUESTIONER has absolutely no obligation to possess. I am not required to know the precise weight of the fat lady saying she's an 80 pound beauty, in order to have the right to express disbelief in her preposterous claim.

Google it - I really don't. Seriously - I don't.

I tried - very patiently - to educate you, and I am beginning to suspect you are ineducable. How **** hard is this concept to grasp? Do you have ANY formal education at all?

I will say it to you again: The skeptic has no duty to invent a narrative in order to question the narrative to which he is being exposed. 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 1:27 pm

And the first and most obvious question is always the same and it never gets answered.

Identify who owes the answer, and make your argument why they owe it. I can walk up to anyone and ask anything - but that does not mean they OWE ME an answer. So, make your case.

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 1:46 pm

Tell us ..
You asked for witnesses.

I showed you a few.

Are you suggesting they're all lying?

no comment on the cab driver video?
 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 1:43 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 1:43 pm

You need to educate yourself...

First question...
Where's the plane if it didn't crash I to the Pentagon?

Link to me agreeing that a pane hit the pentagon.

If a plane hit the pentagon, where are the photos and videos?

This question ^ is to the person making an affirmative claim. It's a perfectly honest question with no imbedded premise other than that there would be photos of such an event in such a locale.

YOUR question assumes a premise on which we disagree - extremely dishonest of you, - and it implies that I owe an answer, SIMPLY FOR QUESTIONING THE NARRATIVE that hooked a gull like you. 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 1:27 pm

And the first and most obvious question is always the same and it never gets answered.

Identify who owes the answer, and make an argument why they owe it.

 
 

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 1:48 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 1:48 pm

Did you hear the cab driver?

Are you saying he's lying too?

He posted a video in response to yours. 

You should pay more attention to it than you did to my suggestion - a suggestion which would have made you a better debater.

Z09 » 29 Sep 2023, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2023, 1:46 pm

And somehow no one ever heard from those people again?

This^ is something you have been TOLD - not something you have VERIFIED or CAN verify.

You need to be less of a midway rube. The best kind of gulls fly. The worst kind of gulls don't 

Don't be the worst kind of gull. Get busy flying, or get busy thinking.