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 make zelisnky forget abour crimea and sign a peace treaty with russia.

europe and the whole world would benefit from it.
 

Don't avoid it. Shut it down.

PhiloBeddo » 30 Sep 2023, 11:20 am » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2023, 11:20 am

Don't avoid it. Shut it down.

I hope they do!
But what pisses me off most of all is that they always end up paying their thousands of federal workers in full after they reach an agreement.
If the rest of the country has to worry about being laid off thanks to the **** Biden economy, federal workers should get a taste of what everyone else faces instead of a paid vacation!
 

Government shut down business and people for Covid. We need to shut down Government for incompetence.

PhiloBeddo » 30 Sep 2023, 11:20 am » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2023, 11:20 am

Don't avoid it. Shut it down.

I'd like to see Maineman freeze to death waiting at his mailbox for his welfare check.

RebelGator » 30 Sep 2023, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2023, 12:07 pm

I'd like to see Maineman freeze to death waiting at his mailbox for his welfare check.

A whole bunch of Libs frozen to death in their wheel chairs and a cigarette in their mouth DEAD. 
 

Uncle *** Sam...The AIDS Tranny....

"""we must continue to FUEL the Uke War!!!....Blood and Death give me a boner"""
 

Here is how

Uncle Tranny Sam....sees the world.

shut it down!!!
only people who care are the ones sucking off the gubmint tit.
fear tactics- politics!

Zeets2 » 30 Sep 2023, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2023, 11:48 am

I hope they do!
But what pisses me off most of all is that they always end up paying their thousands of federal workers in full after they reach an agreement.
If the rest of the country has to worry about being laid off thanks to the **** Biden economy, federal workers should get a taste of what everyone else faces instead of a paid vacation!

Federal employment unions are powerful. Should be illegal. 
 

Neo » 30 Sep 2023, 2:46 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2023, 2:46 pm

Federal employment unions are powerful. Should be illegal.

No!  
 

jerrab » 30 Sep 2023, 9:12 am » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2023, 9:12 am

 make zelisnky forget abour crimea and sign a peace treaty with russia.

europe and the whole world would benefit from it.

Good luck selling that to Democrats. The entire party is beholden to the MIC.

nuckinfutz » 30 Sep 2023, 8:02 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2023, 8:02 pm

No!

Government unions are a cancer and should be squashed. 
 

when the government shuts down. replace it.

What’s a non essential government employee?

PhiloBeddo » 30 Sep 2023, 11:20 am » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2023, 11:20 am

Don't avoid it. Shut it down.

Awww too bad. 

You didn't get your shutdown. 

The democrats prevented it. 

Bummer for you, the government is still open. At least for another month and a half. 

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Zeets2 » 30 Sep 2023, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2023, 11:48 am

I hope they do!
But what pisses me off most of all is that they always end up paying their thousands of federal workers in full after they reach an agreement.
If the rest of the country has to worry about being laid off thanks to the **** Biden economy, federal workers should get a taste of what everyone else faces instead of a paid vacation!

The only ones who would have gotten paid are the ones who were ruled essential workers and actually worked during the shutdown. 

People like TSA agents, air traffic control etc. They would have worked through the shutdown and not paid until the shutdown is over.

Those who didn't work, don't get paid. 

RebelGator » 30 Sep 2023, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2023, 12:07 pm

I'd like to see Maineman freeze to death waiting at his mailbox for his welfare check.

What kind of sick person are you that you want someone to die?

That is a lot of hate for someone you have never even met.

What is wrong with you?

PNW0637 » 02 Oct 2023, 7:52 am » wrote: ↑

02 Oct 2023, 7:52 am

What kind of sick person are you that you want someone to die?

That is a lot of hate for someone you have never even met.

What is wrong with you?

You won't last a week here before stroking out.

PNW0637 » 02 Oct 2023, 7:51 am » wrote: ↑

02 Oct 2023, 7:51 am

The only ones who would have gotten paid are the ones who were ruled essential workers and actually worked during the shutdown. 

People like TSA agents, air traffic control etc. They would have worked through the shutdown and not paid until the shutdown is over.

Those who didn't work, don't get paid.

I've searched a bit and can't find any confirmation that every federal worker affected by a government shutdown won't get paid.
Some are required to work and may not get paid until the budget is resolved, while others are furloughed and also don't get paid, but are always given full pay after the budget is passed.

Can you tell me what federal workers either don't get paid during the shutdown, OR receive full back pay after the budget is approved and they return to work?  
Because I'm not aware of any, and that means it's nothing but a paid vacation for them, albeit they have to wait for their back pay.

Here's all I could find on the subject:

Furloughed and excepted employees who have to report to work aren’t paid during a shutdown. But they will eventually get back pay.Historically, Congress has approved retroactive pay for excepted and furloughed employees, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) says.But that back pay was not guaranteed until Congress passed and former President Donald Trump signed a federal law in January 2019. That law called the Government Employee Fair Treatment Act requires both essential employees who worked without pay, as well as furloughed workers who did not report to work, to be paid after a shutdown ends. These employees must be compensated “at the earliest date possible,” regardless of scheduled pay dates, the law says.