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Poof...There goes another liberal plan vs Trump
Poof...There goes another liberal plan vs Trump
By ConsRule
2 Oct 2023 1:39 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
3 Oct 2023 2:51 pm
Zeets2 » 03 Oct 2023, 2:31 pm » wrote: ↑ Maybe you'll finally learn about the obvious fraud when Trump provides the evidence in his upcoming trial.
Hope you can find yourself a nice tasty crow to eat then!
Or you can save it for when Trump wins re-election next year!
and what will you say when he fails to provide that evidence? Will you admit you've been conned and apologize to the rest of us who weren't?
3 Oct 2023 2:54 pm
Skans » 03 Oct 2023, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑ That, and about 12 other things, yes I said ALL of those things. All of which you conveniently ignore, other than my one statement about the sordid way Joe and Jill got together.
Personal insults. I expect nothing more from typical Democrats like you.
you threw a bunch of **** against the wall. If you can't stand by your own **** words, what sort of a man are you? I asked you a question and you gave me a multipart answer. Are you OK with the fact that some of those parts are total **** and would have ZERO bearing on a 2016 Trump voter turned 2020 non-Trump voter switching back? Man up or sit down, ******.
3 Oct 2023 3:01 pm
You, of all people, telling someone to "man up".maineman » 03 Oct 2023, 2:54 pm » wrote: ↑ you threw a bunch of **** against the wall. If you can't stand by your own **** words, what sort of a man are you? I asked you a question and you gave me a multipart answer. Are you OK with the fact that some of those parts are total **** and would have ZERO bearing on a 2016 Trump voter turned 2020 non-Trump voter switching back? Man up or sit down, ******.
Now that's hilarious right there!
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
3 Oct 2023 5:43 pm
If I'm convinced that the evidence is genuine, I'm not interested in if some liberal judge or a jury full of Democrat juries find. If Trump doesn't win on the merits, he'll appeal the decision any we'll watch another year go by. The real question is if YOU will admit and apologize when he's found NOT guilty after hearing a highly partisan judge and a prejudiced jury turn in that verdict?maineman » 03 Oct 2023, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑ and what will you say when he fails to provide that evidence? Will you admit you've been conned and apologize to the rest of us who weren't?
And I have serious doubts that you will do so!
3 Oct 2023 5:52 pm
Zeets2 » 03 Oct 2023, 5:43 pm » wrote: ↑ If I'm convinced that the evidence is genuine, I'm not interested in if some liberal judge or a jury full of Democrat juries find. If Trump doesn't win on the merits, he'll appeal the decision any we'll watch another year go by. The real question is if YOU will admit and apologize when he's found NOT guilty after hearing a highly partisan judge and a prejudiced jury turn in that verdict?
And I have serious doubts that you will do so!
so...it will be perfectly acceptable for you to dismiss the verdict of a court of law because you personally are convinced of the "genuineness' of the evidence, but you don't allow me the same latitude?
There has, to date, been NO evidence of systemic voter fraud admitted in ANY court of law in the nearly three years since the 2020 election. And you think that, what? those binders of "evidence" that Rudy waved in front of the camera at Four Seasons Landscaping all those many months ago, but that never ever made it to a court of law, have somehow been found, finally?
3 Oct 2023 7:27 pm
You are a lying **** pos... you already said there was fraud....maineman » 03 Oct 2023, 5:52 pm » wrote: ↑ so...it will be perfectly acceptable for you to dismiss the verdict of a court of law because you personally are convinced of the "genuineness' of the evidence, but you don't allow me the same latitude?
There has, to date, been NO evidence of systemic voter fraud admitted in ANY court of law in the nearly three years since the 2020 election. And you think that, what? those binders of "evidence" that Rudy waved in front of the camera at Four Seasons Landscaping all those many months ago, but that never ever made it to a court of law, have somehow been found, finally?
3 Oct 2023 9:01 pm
maineman » 03 Oct 2023, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑ No court anywhere has found any credible evidence of actual voter fraud. None of ANY of the allegations has withstood even the slightest degree of judicial scrutiny.... but still some remain convinced to the contrary.
Gotta love stubborn delusions.
You willfully missed the point. Never mind.
People like you are fixated.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
3 Oct 2023 9:05 pm
DeezerShoove » 03 Oct 2023, 9:01 pm » wrote: ↑ You willfully missed the point. Never mind.
People like you are fixated.
people like you are marinated.
3 Oct 2023 9:15 pm
This means something?
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
4 Oct 2023 8:41 am
That's right! If Trump were to be found not guilty in a biased venue like DC or NYC, it means that even the far-left liberals that make up those cities and generally hate Trump, then the evidence against him was so overwhelming flimsy that they refused to convict him despite their unbridled hatred for him.maineman » 03 Oct 2023, 5:52 pm » wrote: ↑ so...it will be perfectly acceptable for you to dismiss the verdict of a court of law because you personally are convinced of the "genuineness' of the evidence, but you don't allow me the same latitude?
There has, to date, been NO evidence of systemic voter fraud admitted in ANY court of law in the nearly three years since the 2020 election. And you think that, what? those binders of "evidence" that Rudy waved in front of the camera at Four Seasons Landscaping all those many months ago, but that never ever made it to a court of law, have somehow been found, finally?
If, however, they find him guilty of any crime, it would not come as a surprise to anyone, knowing how biased those prosecutors, judges, or juries were, and in that case Trump would certainly appeal the decision and have a new venue for the retrial where a fairer and more balanced trial would be possible.
And there's been PLENTY of evidence of fraud that's been uncovered over the last 3 years, both new evidence of how the voting machines can be fixed to change votes, how the worker in AZ mishandled the ballots after their machines suddenly stopped working in an area that was heavily favored for Trump but the count turned up the opposite, forged signatures found and illegal harvesting of ballots in PA, fake voter registration forms in Michigan, at least 35 cases of election law violations in GA, and Wisconsin’s Racine County GOP Wisconsin found 23,000 voters with the same phone number and 4,000 voters registered on 1/1/1918.
So don't expect everyone to keep their head buried in the sand as you obviously prefer to do!
4 Oct 2023 8:47 am
as long as RWNJ koolaid marinated MAGA morons like you keep inhaling fake news, we'll never get past this:Zeets2 » 04 Oct 2023, 8:41 am » wrote: ↑ That's right! If Trump were to be found not guilty in a biased venue like DC or NYC, it means that even the far-left liberals that make up those cities and generally hate Trump, then the evidence against him was so overwhelming flimsy that they refused to convict him despite their unbridled hatred for him.
If, however, they find him guilty of any crime, it would not come as a surprise to anyone, knowing how biased those prosecutors, judges, or juries were, and in that case Trump would certainly appeal the decision and have a new venue for the retrial where a fairer and more balanced trial would be possible.
And there's been PLENTY of "evidence" of fraud that's been uncovered over the last 3 years, both new evidence of how the voting machines can be fixed to change votes, how the worker in AZ mishandled the ballots after their machines suddenly stopped working in an area that was heavily favored for Trump but the count turned up the opposite, forged signatures found and illegal harvesting of ballots in PA, fake voter registration forms in Michigan, at least 35 cases of election law violations in GA, and Wisconsin’s Racine County GOP Wisconsin found 23,000 voters with the same phone number and 4,000 voters registered on 1/1/1918.
So don't expect everyone to keep their head buried in the sand as you obviously prefer to do!
https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL1N2RU1WC
4 Oct 2023 9:15 am
Oh, we'll get past it just fine when your corrupt senile idiot gets thrown out next November and Trump takes his rightful place as president once again.maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 8:47 am » wrote: ↑ as long as RWNJ koolaid marinated MAGA morons like you keep inhaling fake news, we'll never get past this:
https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL1N2RU1WC
And if you dumb liberals weren't so panic-stricken over that likelihood, they'd never be going to so much trouble to keep Trump from campaigning by attempting to tie him up in the courts for the next year on such **** phony charges.
4 Oct 2023 9:27 am
----------------------Zeets2 » 04 Oct 2023, 8:41 am » wrote: ↑ That's right! If Trump were to be found not guilty in a biased venue like DC or NYC, it means that even the far-left liberals that make up those cities and generally hate Trump, then the evidence against him was so overwhelming flimsy that they refused to convict him despite their unbridled hatred for him.
If, however, they find him guilty of any crime, it would not come as a surprise to anyone, knowing how biased those prosecutors, judges, or juries were, and in that case Trump would certainly appeal the decision and have a new venue for the retrial where a fairer and more balanced trial would be possible.
And there's been PLENTY of evidence of fraud that's been uncovered over the last 3 years, both new evidence of how the voting machines can be fixed to change votes, how the worker in AZ mishandled the ballots after their machines suddenly stopped working in an area that was heavily favored for Trump but the count turned up the opposite, forged signatures found and illegal harvesting of ballots in PA, fake voter registration forms in Michigan, at least 35 cases of election law violations in GA, and Wisconsin’s Racine County GOP Wisconsin found 23,000 voters with the same phone number and 4,000 voters registered on 1/1/1918.
So don't expect everyone to keep their head buried in the sand as you obviously prefer to do!
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/0 ... ump-434913
Many in the audience had already been riled up by Trump’s famous dismissal of McCain’s years as a POW — “I like people who weren’t captured.” They’d been appalled when, just months earlier, a Trump White House aide allegedly dismissed the opinion of the cancer-stricken McCain because “he’s dying anyway.” They’d been enraged that, two days before the memorial service, Trump had again attacked McCain after reports of his refusal to lower American flags in his honor.On Election Day, many of them — led by McCain’s widow, Cindy — took revenge: Arizona is on target to choose a Democrat — Biden — for the first time in almost 25 years. Biden’s early lead was such that Fox News declared him the winner in the Grand Canyon State on Tuesday, altering the electoral math and pulling the rug out from under Trump’s plans to claim victory in the overall polling before the Biden-leaning mailed ballots were counted in the Midwestern states.As of Saturday, it appeared that about 100,000 voters in Arizona’s Maricopa County alone, which makes up about half the state’s population, voted for Biden and Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Mark Kelly but chose all Republicans for a host of other state offices, said Garrett Archer, the former chief data analyst for the Arizona secretary of state.
4 Oct 2023 9:44 am
didn't bother to open the link, I see.Zeets2 » 04 Oct 2023, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑ Oh, we'll get past it just fine when your corrupt senile idiot gets thrown out next November and Trump takes his rightful place as president once again.
And if you dumb liberals weren't so panic-stricken over that likelihood, they'd never be going to so much trouble to keep Trump from campaigning by attempting to tie him up in the courts for the next year on such **** phony charges.
There you have it. Willful ignorance.
4 Oct 2023 10:15 am
jerrab » 04 Oct 2023, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑ ----------------------
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/0 ... ump-434913
Many in the audience had already been riled up by Trump’s famous dismissal of McCain’s years as a POW — “I like people who weren’t captured.” They’d been appalled when, just months earlier, a Trump White House aide allegedly dismissed the opinion of the cancer-stricken McCain because “he’s dying anyway.” They’d been enraged that, two days before the memorial service, Trump had again attacked McCain after reports of his refusal to lower American flags in his honor.On Election Day, many of them — led by McCain’s widow, Cindy — took revenge: Arizona is on target to choose a Democrat — Biden — for the first time in almost 25 years. Biden’s early lead was such that Fox News declared him the winner in the Grand Canyon State on Tuesday, altering the electoral math and pulling the rug out from under Trump’s plans to claim victory in the overall polling before the Biden-leaning mailed ballots were counted in the Midwestern states.As of Saturday, it appeared that about 100,000 voters in Arizona’s Maricopa County alone, which makes up about half the state’s population, voted for Biden and Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Mark Kelly but chose all Republicans for a host of other state offices, said Garrett Archer, the former chief data analyst for the Arizona secretary of state.
Voters who take the time to split their ballot are routinely more informed voters. And those whose vote at the top of the ticket is in opposition to how they normally vote (and the down-ballot races fit their previous patterns) are clearly sending a message to the top of their party that all is not well. Republicans in Arizona were not abandoning their party, just Trump and his acolytes.
4 Oct 2023 10:19 am
No, I actually read your link and it doesn't explain how easy it would be to commit fraud when the state doesn't require to match signatures while also choosing to ignore birth dates, ignore witness signature requirement laws, ignore the rampant ballot harvesting that was committed in WI or match their phone numbers.maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 9:44 am » wrote: ↑ didn't bother to open the link, I see.
There you have it. Willful ignorance.
Do you not agree that the more requirements for a valid and legal ballots are circumvented or ignored that it makes it easier to submit duplicate or fraudulent ballots?
4 Oct 2023 10:42 am
It explained away several of your talking points, but I guarantee you, you'll use them again as if they'd never been debunked.Zeets2 » 04 Oct 2023, 10:19 am » wrote: ↑ No, I actually read your link and it doesn't explain how easy it would be to commit fraud when the state doesn't require to match signatures while also choosing to ignore birth dates, ignore witness signature requirement laws, ignore the rampant ballot harvesting that was committed in WI or match their phone numbers.
Do you not agree that the more requirements for a valid and legal ballots are circumvented or ignored that it makes it easier to submit duplicate or fraudulent ballots?
Face it: you so desperately want Donald Trump to have actually won the presidency in 2020 that you will believe any cockamamie conspiracy theory that has the evil Democrats stealing it from him. The guy that Trump himself put in charge of election security said that 2020 was the most secure, error-free election in history and you refuse to believe him. You have no evidence of systemic nefarious election fraud. The fix was not in. Covid was not a democratic hoax to backdoor our way into more absentee ballots. Trump lost and he lost bigly.
You all need to put on your big boy panties and move the **** on or risk bringing our entire democracy down on your heads. For chrissakes, just look at the **** clown show going on in the House of Representatives. Is that your vision for the future?
4 Oct 2023 10:43 am
maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑ Voters who take the time to split their ballot are routinely more informed voters. And those whose vote at the top of the ticket is in opposition to how they normally vote (and the down-ballot races fit their previous patterns) are clearly sending a message to the top of their party that all is not well. Republicans in Arizona were not abandoning their party, just Trump and his acolytes.
and there was no mishandling of ballots in az
4 Oct 2023 10:49 am
you'll never convince the koolaid-marinated true believers. it's almost like mass-hypnosis.
4 Oct 2023 10:57 am
yes there was
biden actually got more votes than was recorded
After months of work and some $6 million spent, a so-called audit that Trump supporters claimed would show that the election had been stolen from the defeated president found that Joe Biden actually won Arizona by more votes than the official tally — and it found no conclusive evidence that the election had been influenced by fraud.
https://www.azmirror.com/2021/09/23/ari ... -of-fraud/
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