Kevin McCarthy ousted as speaker of the house!

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3 Oct 2023 4:19 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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RedheadedStranger » 04 Oct 2023, 7:06 pm » wrote: I liked Bill too.

That was back in a time when our elected leaders had charisma and personality.

Now they are either two steps from the grave or a ****' millennial social justice hack ****.

I feel like I'm either arguing with my grand dad or telling the kids next door to get off my lawn.

****...
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maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 7:09 pm » wrote: I am no fan of Newt by a long shot.
You're a bigger fan than I.

I don't quote him - ever - because I don't agree with him - ever.

You do, though. You just did.
maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 7:09 pm » wrote: I just find it amazing that eight renegades from the GOP's fringe can hold their entire party hostage, and, by default, hold the entire nation hostage.  
They can't, dummy.

Not unless 216 democ rats assist them.
maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 7:09 pm » wrote: It's almost like we've gone through the looking glass.
Right - EXACTLY.

You are tisking at 8 repukes for a crime that 216 democ rats committed.
maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 7:09 pm » wrote: There was a time when Henry Clay was lionized in American history as the Great Compromiser.  This week, eight loonies succeeded in the first-ever deposing of a sitting Speaker of the House
224.

I don't think you understand house rules.

It was 224 loonies. 8 of them were repukes.
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Cannonpointer » 04 Oct 2023, 6:54 pm » wrote: The Speaker job looks like a good fit.

He loves saying stuff.

He's actually have to take the time to become not just familiar, but facile with the 47 pages of Rules for the 118th Congress... and then preside over sessions.... and stand trial for ninety-one felony counts in four separate indictments AND campaign.  
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Cannonpointer » 04 Oct 2023, 6:45 pm » wrote: Didn't he say something like, give me liberalism or give me death?

Hold the **** phone a minute, there. 

Are you You ARE implying that some stuff WAS getting done or WOULD BE getting done, if not for the courageous ****-flinging of the Hateful Eight. 

Can you name a thing or two, so I can say a thing or two about a thing or two? Because I KNOW a thing or two about a thing or two. And one of the things or two I know is that not **** much was getting done that I considered helpful...

Also, there's this. There were only EIGHT repukes that brought this devastation on America. There were TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN democ rats. 

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Not a thing or two was being done, and not a thing or two will be done

the gang of eight (that I love to hate) played the dems like a fiddle 

and Vicy versy 

they both got what they wanted

distraction 

but in the end, the cucks on both sides will get what they want

more of the same
 
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maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 7:17 pm » wrote: He's actually have to take the time to become not just familiar, but facile with the 47 pages of Rules for the 118th Congress... and then preside over sessions....
Okay, not THAT good a fit.
maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 7:17 pm » wrote: and stand trial for ninety-one felony counts in four separate indictments AND campaign.
Okay, okay - enough about how third world and crooked your party is.
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Cannonpointer » 04 Oct 2023, 7:15 pm » wrote: You're a bigger fan than I.

I don't quote him - ever - because I don't agree with him - ever.

You do, though. You just did.

They can't, dummy.

Not unless 216 democ rats assist them.

Right - EXACTLY.

You are tisking at 8 repukes for a crime that 216 democ rats committed.

224.

I don't think you understand house rules.

It was 224 loonies. 8 of them were repukes.

Did Pelosi receive any votes from any republicans when she ran for Speaker?

They have the majority.  They earned it.  Now they need to prove that the deserve it.

 
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Mrkelly » 04 Oct 2023, 7:17 pm » wrote: Not a thing or two was being done, and not a thing or two will be done

the gang of eight (that I love to hate) played the dems like a fiddle 

and Vicy versy 

they both got what they wanted

distraction 

but in the end, the cucks on both sides will get what they want

more of the same
Maybe. 

But when the game is rigged against you, DISRUPTION is the go-to.
 
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maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 7:20 pm » wrote: Did Pelosi receive any votes from any republicans when she ran for Speaker?

They have the majority.  They earned it.  Now they need to prove that the deserve it.
It was a slim margin either way.

If nothing else, this told the Country which party refuses to walk lockstep. I respect a man for standing by his principles far more than one that bends for the populous.

McCarthy is an establishment guy, and always has been.



 
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maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 7:20 pm » wrote: Did Pelosi receive any votes from any republicans when she ran for Speaker?
Pelosi quelled the wind-blown cowards who wanted to represent their constituents. She proved capable of getting that dirty work done.

McCarthy failed. So he's out.

The Hateful Eight stood by their promises. The $quad did not. You need to tuck your bottom lip in, and tend YOUR **** garden. Let the repukes worry about the repukes, instead of knee-jerking on que and quoting allies you pretend to still dislike.
maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 7:20 pm » wrote: They have the majority.  They earned it.  Now they need to prove that the deserve it.
Eight of them just did - with the help of 216 democ rats.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

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RedheadedStranger » 04 Oct 2023, 7:24 pm » wrote: It was a slim margin either way.

If nothing else, this told the Country which party refuses to walk lockstep. I respect a man for standing by his principles far more than one that bends for the populous.

McCarthy is an establishment guy, and always has been.
See, he is pretending that just because pelosi had the acumen to beat down HER opposition, McCarthy is due a free ride. 

That is not how it works. McCarthy FAILED. So he is out. 

The Hateful 8 could not be bullied and bought off as easily as the $quad. 
 
If he had an honest bone in his body (besides his boyfriend's), he would be CHEERING those 8 for showing the $quad - and the country - how to be a proper refusenik.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

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maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 7:20 pm » wrote: Did Pelosi receive any votes from any republicans when she ran for Speaker?

They have the majority.  They earned it.  Now they need to prove that the deserve it.
notice how the 8 republicans used the democrats to do an end around on the republican majority?

I wish the squad used that same tactic to get Medicare for all brought up for a floor vote

like they said that they were gonna do

they had the votes (with republican support) to force pelosi to get her mind right

but they just became part of the herd

like I said “I’m jealous”
 
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maineman » 04 Oct 2023, 3:25 pm » wrote: here's a portion of what a fairly prominent Republican had to say about this McCarthy fiasco:

GINGRICH: I think it's a very sad day because I think Kevin McCarthy is one of the most talented leaders I've ever worked with. I think that he accomplished an amazing amount for having a small majority and having to take on both the Senate and the White House. I think this is really a tragic outcome.

This was a leader who both gained seats in 2020, gained seats in 2022, increased the number of women members, increased the number of veterans, increased the number of minority members, and he had a vision for a better future.

Let's be clear here, if the University of Georgia Bulldogs were the number one team in the country right now, if you started a game and four of the members of the offensive squad decided they were actually on the Alabama side and began tackling your own people, you would probably get them off the field. Think about what we saw today? 4 percent, 4 percent decided they were so morally superior, so intellectually pure, so patriotically better, that they would side with the Democrats and that's what they did, in order to defeat the entire Republican house caucus. 96 percent of the Republicans voted for McCarthy, 4 percent voted against him.

For my position as a longtime Republican activist, they are traitors, all eight of them should be primaried, they should all be driven out of public life. What they did was to go to the other team to cause total chaos. We've got to be focusing on Biden, we ought to be focusing on the economy, we ought to be focusing on the border. Instead, you're going to get a week or ten days of the media focusing on Republican disarray rate. It's an astonishing destructive behavior by a handful of egocentric people who think they are superior to 96 percent of the conference.
What a whiney bitch. He held himself over 60%-80% of his colleges with his contract on America. He was part of small minority movements while he was in congress. 
 
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Mrkelly » 04 Oct 2023, 7:31 pm » wrote: notice how the 8 republicans used the democrats to do an end around on the republican majority?

I wish the squad used that same tactic to get Medicare for all brought up for a floor vote

like they said that they were gonna do

they had the votes (with republican support) to force pelosi to get her mind right

but they just became part of the herd

like I said “I’m jealous”
Yeah, well, you tend to look at issues with a great deal more intellectual integrity than he does. He has been instructed to be mad at 8 repukes for doing what 216 democ rats did. 

He is conscious of no cognitive dissonance whatsoever. 
 
 
 
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You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

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Neo » 04 Oct 2023, 7:33 pm » wrote: What a whiney bitch. He held himself over 60%-80% of his colleges with his contract on America. He was part of small minority movements while he was in congress.
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When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

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Cannonpointer » 04 Oct 2023, 7:28 pm » wrote: See, he is pretending that just because pelosi had the acumen to beat down HER opposition, McCarthy is due a free ride. 

That is not how it works. McCarthy FAILED. So he is out. 

The Hateful 8 could not be bullied and bought off as easily as the $quad. 
 
If he had an honest bone in his body (besides his boyfriend's), he would be CHEERING those 8 for showing the $quad - and the country - how to be a proper refusenik.
Mainstain is an establishment guy, and always has been.

He like to act like he's not, but he is. He and I butted head over at the other place for years. He doesn't know **** about good tequila either. 🤣


 
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Cannonpointer » 04 Oct 2023, 7:21 pm » wrote: Maybe. 

But when the game is rigged against you, DISRUPTION is the go-to.
the game is not rigged against them

it is rigged against us

disruption is a tool for them

 
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Mrkelly » 04 Oct 2023, 7:31 pm » wrote: notice how the 8 republicans used the democrats to do an end around on the republican majority?

I wish the squad used that same tactic to get Medicare for all brought up for a floor vote

like they said that they were gonna do

they had the votes (with republican support) to force pelosi to get her mind right

but they just became part of the herd

like I said “I’m jealous”
The Squad are like Trump....ALL MOUTH, NO ACTION
 
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Mrkelly » 04 Oct 2023, 7:38 pm » wrote: the game is not rigged against them

it is rigged against us

disruption is a tool for them
WASH DC needs to be disrupted
 
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Mrkelly » 04 Oct 2023, 7:38 pm » wrote:
Cannonpointer » 04 Oct 2023, 7:21 pm » wrote: Maybe. 

But when the game is rigged against you, DISRUPTION is the go-to.
the game is not rigged against them

it is rigged against us
Glad we can agree on that.
Mrkelly » 04 Oct 2023, 7:38 pm » wrote: disruption is a tool for them
Disruption of a rigged game does not assist those who rigged it.

It is the one exquisite response that we have. It sabotages their game.

Hell, that is how trump won - by being an obvious disruption. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » 04 Oct 2023, 7:45 pm » wrote: Glad we can agree on that.

Disruption of a rigged game does not assist those who rigged it.

It is the one exquisite response that we have. It sabotages their game.

Hell, that is how trump won - by being an obvious disruption.
disruptions brought on by us sabotages their game

disruptions brought on by them strengthens it
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