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Bipartisan question: Who still has faith in America's Federal election system?
Bipartisan question: Who still has faith in America's Federal election system?
By Vegas
9 Oct 2023 8:57 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
12 Oct 2023 2:13 am
Cannonpointer » 12 Oct 2023, 12:13 am » wrote: ↑ Bro, there is not an adult in america - including and especially black americans - who wants to rent to black americans.
He is lying through his **** biscuits.
what a sad and hate-filled life you must lead.
12 Oct 2023 6:11 am
Same old my ideology is better than everyone else's. Ever discover why there never were missing links in evolution? Just species having its ancestral lineages stop reproducing next generation gaps specific to this universal yesterday's location, location of ancestral forms here now, location when each last added ancestor keeping each ancestral lineage going forward one lifetime at a time combined to occupying space now.maineman » 11 Oct 2023, 5:13 pm » wrote: ↑ So those are cogent bullet points?
1. Because the world needs to reduce it's use of fossil fuel
2. I disagree with your assumption that size of the influx of immigrants is a result of the occupant of the oval office and not due to increased violence in central America and global economic instability caused by COVID.
3. Biden didn't "cause" inflation anymore than he "caused" COVID. The WORLD's economy dealt with global inflation. Ours was much less than other developed nations.... and have you seen what a **** job creation monster our economy has become under Joe?
4. Sure. his "policy" of exiting Afghanistan was years overdue. It was a no-win conflict that was a resource-bottomless pit. He got out with minimal damages - and certainly a lot cleaner than Ford did getting out if Viet Nam
Biden is attempting to implement the Democratic party's platform, which I totally support. Has he been totally successful? NO. But better, from my perspective, than ANY success Trump might have in implementing the GOP party platform which I firmly believe would do grave damage to our nation.
So Trump oogling Miss Universe titties is really low on my issues list. Defeating his party's platform is infinitely higher.
stfu. Your reality is as inaccurate as every other pretending life exceeds adapting to space here now as conceived to displace space one at a time by specific combined chromosomes left living now.
Right? look at it historically, planning for tomorrow, governing por governed outcomes promising living cannot be self contained to eternally separated now.
Living always evolves that way.
12 Oct 2023 7:27 am
It's a new day... I'll give you a new chance. Here are my previously listed eleven issues with which I am diametrically opposed to Trump and the GOP.Vegas » 11 Oct 2023, 9:15 pm » wrote: ↑ If you genuinely believed all of those things, then why do you defend Biden or at least think he is worse than Trump? Biden has proven to contradict your list.
1. a woman's right to choose. I believe in it, the GOP doesn't.
2. progressive tax rates I believe in them, the GOP doesn't.
3. environmental policies. I believe that business needs to be closely regulated to ensure they do not rape the land. The GOP, not so much.
4. foreign policy. I believe we need to be proactive and provide assistance to our friends and sanctions against our enemies. The GOP does not.
5. the importance of alliances and treaties and the danger of Russia. The GOP loves Russia and hates Ukraine
6. the importance of the social safety net. The GOP wants to cut social welfare programs.
7. the need for comprehensive benevolent immigration policies. The GOP wants us, a nation of immigrants, to turn our backs and close our borders to immigrants.
8. the need for a strong professional career military. The GOP attacks the military and labels them part of the deep state.
9. the need for a strong professional foreign service corps. The GOP attacks the foreign service and labels them a part of the deep state
10. the need for a strong professional cadre of public servants to effectively manage our national bureaucracy. Ditto
11. the ease and safety of using mail-in balloting. The GOP wants to eliminate ways for people to vote.
NOW... you tell me.... go down the line: How has Joe Biden "proven to contradict my list"?
12 Oct 2023 7:53 am
Oh look @Vegas !
The Stain has graciously given you another chance to prove your worth to him!
You should be humbled and honored!
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
12 Oct 2023 8:24 am
C'mon @Vegas.maineman » 12 Oct 2023, 7:27 am » wrote: ↑ It's a new day... I'll give you a new chance. Here are my previously listed eleven issues with which I am diametrically opposed to Trump and the GOP.
1. a woman's right to choose. I believe in it, the GOP doesn't.
2. progressive tax rates I believe in them, the GOP doesn't.
3. environmental policies. I believe that business needs to be closely regulated to ensure they do not rape the land. The GOP, not so much.
4. foreign policy. I believe we need to be proactive and provide assistance to our friends and sanctions against our enemies. The GOP does not.
5. the importance of alliances and treaties and the danger of Russia. The GOP loves Russia and hates Ukraine
6. the importance of the social safety net. The GOP wants to cut social welfare programs.
7. the need for comprehensive benevolent immigration policies. The GOP wants us, a nation of immigrants, to turn our backs and close our borders to immigrants.
8. the need for a strong professional career military. The GOP attacks the military and labels them part of the deep state.
9. the need for a strong professional foreign service corps. The GOP attacks the foreign service and labels them a part of the deep state
10. the need for a strong professional cadre of public servants to effectively manage our national bureaucracy. Ditto
11. the ease and safety of using mail-in balloting. The GOP wants to eliminate ways for people to vote.
NOW... you tell me.... go down the line: How has Joe Biden "proven to contradict my list"?
What happened? Cat got your tongue?
12 Oct 2023 8:26 am
C'mon @Vegasmaineman » 12 Oct 2023, 7:27 am » wrote: ↑ It's a new day... I'll give you a new chance. Here are my previously listed eleven issues with which I am diametrically opposed to Trump and the GOP.
1. a woman's right to choose. I believe in it, the GOP doesn't.
2. progressive tax rates I believe in them, the GOP doesn't.
3. environmental policies. I believe that business needs to be closely regulated to ensure they do not rape the land. The GOP, not so much.
4. foreign policy. I believe we need to be proactive and provide assistance to our friends and sanctions against our enemies. The GOP does not.
5. the importance of alliances and treaties and the danger of Russia. The GOP loves Russia and hates Ukraine
6. the importance of the social safety net. The GOP wants to cut social welfare programs.
7. the need for comprehensive benevolent immigration policies. The GOP wants us, a nation of immigrants, to turn our backs and close our borders to immigrants.
8. the need for a strong professional career military. The GOP attacks the military and labels them part of the deep state.
9. the need for a strong professional foreign service corps. The GOP attacks the foreign service and labels them a part of the deep state
10. the need for a strong professional cadre of public servants to effectively manage our national bureaucracy. Ditto
11. the ease and safety of using mail-in balloting. The GOP wants to eliminate ways for people to vote.
NOW... you tell me.... go down the line: How has Joe Biden "proven to contradict my list"?
DId your scrotum all of a sudden turn up empty? Man up, ****!
12 Oct 2023 8:30 am
maineman » 12 Oct 2023, 8:26 am » wrote: ↑ C'mon @Vegas
DId your scrotum all of a sudden turn up empty? Man up, ****!
With the exception of abortion, which one has Biden met?
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
12 Oct 2023 8:30 am
RedheadedStranger » 12 Oct 2023, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑ Oh look @Vegas !
The Stain has graciously given you another chance to prove your worth to him!
You should be humbled and honored!
He keeps reflecting to the GOP. My question to him was how Biden has met his criteria. I didn't ask if the GOP did.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
12 Oct 2023 8:32 am
maineman » 12 Oct 2023, 2:12 am » wrote: ↑ In fact, Biden doesn't contradict anything on my list and that only proves your inability to read.
I KNOW that Biden stands with me - and against Trump and the GOP - on all eleven points.
You are clearly an illiterate moron and gadfly.
Run along and hump someone else's leg.
You didn't explain how. Saying that Biden stands with you doesn't mean he stands with you. Prove it.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
12 Oct 2023 8:35 am
That's always been his M.O.Vegas » 12 Oct 2023, 8:30 am » wrote: ↑ He keeps reflecting to the GOP. My question to him was how Biden has met his criteria. I didn't ask if the GOP did.
To deflect.
He's quite good at it too... it's like it just comes naturally to him.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
12 Oct 2023 8:36 am
RedheadedStranger » 12 Oct 2023, 8:35 am » wrote: ↑ That's always been his M.O.
To deflect.
He's quite good at it too... it's like it just comes naturally to him.
Yes, he is good. He will continue to deflect from Biden by bringing up the GOP.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
12 Oct 2023 9:33 am
It has nothing to do with whether or not he has met any goal...none of them are goals per se, but more philosophies... it has to do with whether he agrees with his party and his platform on those philosophies, as I do.
He CERTAINLY has strengthened NATO, which Trump badly damaged, and their unity in the face of Putin's invasion - and their expansion to include Finland - is proof of that. He has not attempted to remove the social safety net. He has not sought to repeal any progressively structured taxes. He has not further degraded environmental regulations like Trump did. He has not sought to dismantle the federal bureaucracy and does not believe in the deep state meme that you and the GOP rant about.
Bottom line. You were the man who said, and I quote, "Biden has proven to contradict your list." Proven. YOUR WORD.
So Prove it, ****, or retract it, if you have the balls to.
**** ******.
12 Oct 2023 10:28 am
maineman » 12 Oct 2023, 9:33 am » wrote: ↑ It has nothing to do with whether or not he has met any goal...none of them are goals per se, but more philosophies... it has to do with whether he agrees with his party and his platform on those philosophies, as I do.
He CERTAINLY has strengthened NATO, which Trump badly damaged, and their unity in the face of Putin's invasion - and their expansion to include Finland - is proof of that. He has not attempted to remove the social safety net. He has not sought to repeal any progressively structured taxes. He has not further degraded environmental regulations like Trump did. He has not sought to dismantle the federal bureaucracy and does not believe in the deep state meme that you and the GOP rant about.
Bottom line. You were the man who said, and I quote, "Biden has proven to contradict your list." Proven. YOUR WORD.
So Prove it, ****, or retract it, if you have the balls to.
**** ******.
Okay, but if he can't meet up to his philosophies, then clearly he is not the guy. Having a philosophy and the ability to carry out those philosophies are very different things.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
12 Oct 2023 10:34 am
Vegas » 12 Oct 2023, 10:28 am » wrote: ↑ Okay, but if he can't meet up to his philosophies, then clearly he is not the guy. Having a philosophy and the ability to carry out those philosophies are very different things.
So...I guess you can't prove how Biden contradicts my list and you don't have the requisite character and maturity to simply retract your ridiculous statement?
I didn't think so.
No one can perform miracles. DId you ever take a civics class? Do you understand who controls the House of Representatives? Do you understand what the practical effect of the filibuster rule in the Senate is?
I will always vote for the candidate who shares my philosophy and hope and pray that he - or she - can get some of it accomplished in an era when compromise has become a dirty word, and where gridlock is the status quo.
That will always be my guy. The alternative? VOTE AGAINST MY OWN POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY?
Just how **** stupid ARE you????
12 Oct 2023 10:39 am
I did already. When you addressed it, you deflected to the GOP.maineman » 12 Oct 2023, 10:34 am » wrote: ↑ So...I guess you can't prove how Biden contradicts my list and you don't have the requisite character and maturity to simply retract your ridiculous statement?
That's on you, cupcake.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
12 Oct 2023 10:44 am
Vegas » 12 Oct 2023, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑ I did already. When you addressed it, you deflected to the GOP.
That's on you, cupcake.
He hasn't contradicted ANY of my points. You claimed to have PROVEN that he had. You lied. You won't admit it. You're a cowardly ******. That's a fact.
I didn't deflect anywhere. I merely pointed out that I support Biden because of what he is trying to accomplish, not because of the fact that the GOP has stopped him from doing it all
12 Oct 2023 10:46 am
maineman » 12 Oct 2023, 10:44 am » wrote: ↑ He hasn't contradicted ANY of my points. You claimed to have PROVEN that he had. You lied. You won't admit it. You're a cowardly ******. That's a fact.
I didn't deflect anywhere. I merely pointed out that I support Biden because of what he is trying to accomplish, not because of the fact that the GOP has stopped him from doing it all
For **** sake. Do you enjoy being this stupid? I gave you the bullet points. You deflected to GOP. You know you did, so shut the **** up you lying sack of **** and sorry excuse for a human being.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
12 Oct 2023 11:20 am
He's not being stupid... he's being purposely obtuse.Vegas » 12 Oct 2023, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑ For **** sake. Do you enjoy being this stupid? I gave you the bullet points. You deflected to GOP. You know you did, so shut the **** up you lying sack of **** and sorry excuse for a human being.
He's good at that too.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
12 Oct 2023 11:29 am
Believing in anything but how life does evolve keeps your brain minding what people make up as possible tomorrows, when living never exceeds adapting as displaced ancestrally here now.maineman » 12 Oct 2023, 7:27 am » wrote: ↑ It's a new day... I'll give you a new chance. Here are my previously listed eleven issues with which I am diametrically opposed to Trump and the GOP.
1. a woman's right to choose. I believe in it, the GOP doesn't.
2. progressive tax rates I believe in them, the GOP doesn't.
3. environmental policies. I believe that business needs to be closely regulated to ensure they do not rape the land. The GOP, not so much.
4. foreign policy. I believe we need to be proactive and provide assistance to our friends and sanctions against our enemies. The GOP does not.
5. the importance of alliances and treaties and the danger of Russia. The GOP loves Russia and hates Ukraine
6. the importance of the social safety net. The GOP wants to cut social welfare programs.
7. the need for comprehensive benevolent immigration policies. The GOP wants us, a nation of immigrants, to turn our backs and close our borders to immigrants.
8. the need for a strong professional career military. The GOP attacks the military and labels them part of the deep state.
9. the need for a strong professional foreign service corps. The GOP attacks the foreign service and labels them a part of the deep state
10. the need for a strong professional cadre of public servants to effectively manage our national bureaucracy. Ditto
11. the ease and safety of using mail-in balloting. The GOP wants to eliminate ways for people to vote.
NOW... you tell me.... go down the line: How has Joe Biden "proven to contradict my list"?
You won't accept time is stationary while your body never stays same form as its original fertilized cell created by past generations adding your time to being live equally here.
Nobody else's fault but your own swearing ancestral oaths of allegiance to people defying how living works in plain sight. What do you understand as physical absolutes evolving works with no exception by contextual beliefs used historically against last generation gap born one ata time here now as genetics eternally separates each lifetime to their own time adapting here now.
Want to debate personal responsibility from that angle of instinctive honesty from a sole ancestor locked into one generation gap conceived to decomposed living between everyone's separate generation gap never same ancestors twice since inception accepting life in real time?
12 Oct 2023 11:41 am
@Vegasmaineman » 11 Oct 2023, 5:13 pm » wrote: ↑ So those are cogent bullet points?
1. Because the world needs to reduce it's use of fossil fuel
2. I disagree with your assumption that size of the influx of immigrants is a result of the occupant of the oval office and not due to increased violence in central America and global economic instability caused by COVID.
3. Biden didn't "cause" inflation anymore than he "caused" COVID. The WORLD's economy dealt with global inflation. Ours was much less than other developed nations.... and have you seen what a **** job creation monster our economy has become under Joe?
4. Sure. his "policy" of exiting Afghanistan was years overdue. It was a no-win conflict that was a resource-bottomless pit. He got out with minimal damages - and certainly a lot cleaner than Ford did getting out if Viet Nam
Biden is attempting to implement the Democratic party's platform, which I totally support. Has he been totally successful? NO. But better, from my perspective, than ANY success Trump might have in implementing the GOP party platform which I firmly believe would do grave damage to our nation.
So Trump oogling Miss Universe titties is really low on my issues list. Defeating his party's platform is infinitely higher.
Here AGAIN is my answer to your bullet points. there is no deflection here. You DID say that Biden had contradicted MY list (not yours) and you have yet to admit you were blowing smoke out of your well traveled ***.
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