Bipartisan question: Who still has faith in America's Federal election system?

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9 Oct 2023 8:57 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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LincolnNebraska » 10 Oct 2023, 2:24 pm » wrote: @Buck Naked    Iz dat really true?
It's just a line from Seinfeld.
omh can believe whatever he wants.
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DeezerShoove » 10 Oct 2023, 2:30 pm » wrote: It's just a line from Seinfeld.
omh can believe whatever he wants.
Ancestral floating apes pissing wine into his punchbowl. Wind towers powered by solar panels. Generations of shoemakers producing leather clocks and xylophones in plain sight eternally. Curly was really the smart Stooge.
Oh, I know.  Seinfeld.

Nostra ******* is the only one I can't figure out here.  I think he really is mental.  And I don't mean in a post-on-a-forum-all-day-mental.  :lol:  
 
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Vegas » 10 Oct 2023, 1:41 pm » wrote: Bull....****...****...You...Liar!

The MSM inundated the public with all of that. They were talking points for months! They used their usual biased and emotionally charged language to hook people like you. If a decent news organization reported it, they would just report it without the opinions and emotions. It would be straight up reporting. However, you wouldn't even know about it then.

The main stream media made me a huge John McCain fan in 1969 and negatively predisposed to people attacking him ever since?

The main stream media made me, the son of a crusading defense lawyer, appalled at Trump's rush to judgment against the Central Park Five in 1989? 

The main stream media made me, a devout Christian, become appalled at Trump's blithe mistreatment of the consecrated body of Christ?

Sorry.  I have thoroughly despised Donald Trump for a long long time and I arrived at that personal judgment all on my own.

Now do yourself a favor and never call me a liar again.  I pride myself on my integrity and I really don't take very kindly to people wrongfully besmirching it.  OK?
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10 Oct 2023 3:18 pm
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Z09, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
Display this post.



display this post????   NO **** WAY.  FWIW, I told that **** a long time ago why I would no longer waste my time with her tripe.  Nothing has changed.  
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maineman » 10 Oct 2023, 3:09 pm » wrote:
Now do yourself a favor and never call me a liar again.  I pride myself on my integrity and I really don't take very kindly to people wrongfully besmirching it.  OK?
You are a liar. If you weren't, you wouldn't be so defensive. People who tell the truth don't get defensive. You are a liar! 

Why do you think I never get pissed when you lefties lie about me being a racist? I know I am not, so I don't need to prove myself. I couldn't care less what lies you people say about me. 

 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

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Z09 » 10 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: Maineman didn't vote for Trump because Trump committed adultery?

But voted for Clinton????
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Z09 » 10 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: Maineman didn't vote for Trump because Trump committed adultery?

But voted for Clinton????

He is full of ****. He isn't consistent about a damn thing. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

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DeezerShoove » 10 Oct 2023, 8:21 am » wrote: I posted this as a sarcastic faith that our "system" will be predictably fraught with dubious outcomes.
I have faith that nothing will come of all the pointed out anomalies and data "miracles".

Also, as a very much related feature of our elections, investigative journalism is bought and paid for.
Those talking head pricks convince morons daily how to think, what to think, etc.
That army of morons are the ones that put a drooling **** on the ballot. **** disgraceful.
The morons aren't at fault as much as the propagandists belching out the ****.
…..back in the day, there was journalism. Now, what we have is an embarrassment. The grift is just so obvious, and it makes me angry to see it.
​​​​​​…..there is a responsibility to be informed, and not fooled, but then again, that is where the propagandists come in with their agenda. ….it’s not new, it’s been done before. …..
Hopefully the Morons, won’t stay Morons and believe the lies…
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Vegas » 10 Oct 2023, 4:15 pm » wrote: You are a liar. If you weren't, you wouldn't be so defensive. People who tell the truth don't get defensive. You are a liar! 

Why do you think I never get pissed when you lefties lie about me being a racist? I know I am not, so I don't need to prove myself. I couldn't care less what lies you people say about me.
I am not defensive.  I am not a liar either.  Why do you think I would make up stuff from the 1960's and the 80's?  I don't recall calling you a racist.

And why, just because I have issues with Donald Trump that mirror those that other folks, and the media has, does that mean that I am somehow incapable of coming to those conclusions and opinions independently all by myself?    
 
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democrats say Kennedy is a destroyer. is destroyer a bad word? is it bad for the usa voters to have people to vote for  who will represent them? does biden really represent those who are against wars? people who want to use their tax dollars to build a better usa economy? people who believe in family values? people who want to clean up the streets from drugs and homeless tents? NO!  are you bad for voting for a destroyer?  the usa media said, 'YOU ARE BAD' !!!!! only way to save usa, is to have many destroyers running. PROBLEM! DEMOCRAT/REPUBLICAN CARTEL WILL NOT ALLOW DESTROYER NAMES ON STATE BALLOTS. usa has a dictator style federal election. every one of age should be allowed to use their social security number, and type in any name, and cast their vote on the internet. thousand of different names will get votes. so what. most votes wins.
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Z09 » 10 Oct 2023, 5:26 pm » wrote: I was behind a truck today..
The bumper sticker read..

"The Media Is the Enemy"

So right...
.....true
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Z09 » 11 Oct 2023, 6:22 am » wrote: Maineman!!

You never showed us the video of Trump calling Nazis "good people"...

Why is that?

By any chance....
Were you lying???
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Z09 » 10 Oct 2023, 4:35 pm » wrote: Maineman didn't vote for Trump because Trump committed adultery?

But voted for Clinton????
He also supports Biden, who was screwing a married woman who ended up leaving her husband for him while he was a Senator... and looks the other way about Joey's crackhead son Hunter **** his dead brothers wife while he was still married too.

But bad orange man is BAD because he's a adulterer!

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jefftec » 10 Oct 2023, 5:23 pm » wrote: …..back in the day, there was journalism. Now, what we have is an embarrassment. The grift is just so obvious, and it makes me angry to see it.
​​​​​​…..there is a responsibility to be informed, and not fooled, but then again, that is where the propagandists come in with their agenda. ….it’s not new, it’s been done before. …..
Hopefully the Morons, won’t stay Morons and believe the lies…
You remember from history the term "Town cryers". Persons running around reporting events everyone else is doing so they can feel important to everyone not paying attention to other people just adapting in time as each ancestor has to do in real time.

mediums sharing information about everyone else set the narrative for social order to over rule natural timing of adapting equally here at the same time.
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maineman » 10 Oct 2023, 5:39 pm » wrote: I am not defensive.  I am not a liar either.  Why do you think I would make up stuff from the 1960's and the 80's?  I don't recall calling you a racist.

 
You are being defensive and you are a liar. I didn't say that you personally called me a racist. I was making a point that people who stand in truth don't get defensive. 
And why, just because I have issues with Donald Trump that mirror those that other folks, and the media has, does that mean that I am somehow incapable of coming to those conclusions and opinions independently all by myself?
I think if Trump was a dimocrat, you would be defending him. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
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Z09 » 11 Oct 2023, 8:50 am » wrote: If Trump was a Democrat Maineman would say...

"..I don't care what he does in his personal life..."

Exactly. He won't admit that, but we all know it's true. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

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sootedupCyndi » 09 Oct 2023, 12:19 pm » wrote: Going back to about 98- on the short wave radio. There was a guy who studied this. The flipping of votes on a computer level.
since then- I never believed we truly had the right to vote.
Now. The thing that I can't understand. Is How Trump squeaked in there. Unless he was a planned opposition. Image  or maybe they were so sure the Fat Granny was a shoe- in. and they weren't paying attention.?
That was amazing, fat granny should have been a shoe-in, no one expected Trump to win, the problem was that they started to believe their own propaganda and forgot to make sure.. I went to bed convinced the fix was in and when I got to the office the next morning my boss said.. did you hear, he won.. yeah, of course, I told you so.. eh wait, what, he????.. then I looked at the news and I started laughing, I couldn't wait to get home and laugh some more at my former liberal allies in the sewer.. lol.. they still haven't forgiven me for that..

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Vegas » 11 Oct 2023, 8:36 am » wrote: You are being defensive and you are a liar. I didn't say that you personally called me a racist. I was making a point that people who stand in truth don't get defensive. 

I think if Trump was a dimocrat, you would be defending him.

All you are doing is baselessly insulting my integrity on nothing but your opinion.  I certainly would never call you a liar based solely upon my opinion of your politics, which is what you have done to me.  I explained why I have disliked Trump for a long time.  My admiration for John McCain comes from my time at Annapolis when he was still a POW. My distaste at Trump's stance against the Central Park Five comes from in-depth discussions with my older sister who is and was a NYC college professor at the time.  My disgust at Trump's desecration of Christian sacraments came from discussions with my ex-pat Bible Study group in Mexico.  NONE of those positions had ANYTHING to do with the media coverage of those events.

I do not routinely read ANY MSM sources and instead, rely heavily on the AP, Reuters, and the BBC.  The only broadcast news coverage I ever watch with any regularity is the PBS News Hour which is always ranked as one of the most unbiased news sources available.

If Trump were a Democrat, not only would I not defend him, more importantly, I would not vote for him.  I have, on occasion, voted for a presidential candidate other than the Democrat when my party's candidate had taken an action that I was deeply disappointed in.  I will do so in a heartbeat in the future.

Now.... one last time:  if you would like to continue discussing issues with me (my two years with the UN in the middle east might very well afford us the opportunity to delve into current bellicose events with some insightful specificity, for example), you will first need to walk back your slanderous remarks about my integrity.  The alternative is to put you on ignore, as I have done to a handful of other folks on here who can't meet minimum standards of civility.  Your call.
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maineman » 11 Oct 2023, 10:45 am » wrote: All you are doing is baselessly insulting my integrity on nothing but your opinion.  I certainly would never call you a liar based solely upon my opinion of your politics, which is what you have done to me.  I explained why I have disliked Trump for a long time.  My admiration for John McCain comes from my time at Annapolis when he was still a POW. My distaste at Trump's stance against the Central Park Five comes from in-depth discussions with my older sister who is and was a NYC college professor at the time.  My disgust at Trump's desecration of Christian sacraments came from discussions with my ex-pat Bible Study group in Mexico.  NONE of those positions had ANYTHING to do with the media coverage of those events.

I do not routinely read ANY MSM sources and instead, rely heavily on the AP, Reuters, and the BBC.  The only broadcast news coverage I ever watch with any regularity is the PBS News Hour which is always ranked as one of the most unbiased news sources available.

If Trump were a Democrat, not only would I not defend him, more importantly, I would not vote for him.  I have, on occasion, voted for a presidential candidate other than the Democrat when my party's candidate had taken an action that I was deeply disappointed in.  I will do so in a heartbeat in the future.

Now.... one last time:  if you would like to continue discussing issues with me (my two years with the UN in the middle east might very well afford us the opportunity to delve into current bellicose events with some insightful specificity, for example), you will first need to walk back your slanderous remarks about my integrity.  The alternative is to put you on ignore, as I have done to a handful of other folks on here who can't meet minimum standards of civility.  Your call.
Here's a clue for ya, ****.  No one is reading that.   :rofl:  
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Mrkelly » 10 Oct 2023, 9:51 am » wrote:
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